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New Buses
May 4, 2016 7:09:22 GMT 1
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Post by 112jct41 on May 4, 2016 7:09:22 GMT 1
Via a (fairly) trusted site, but apologies if it's bo**ocks! Apparently this is where the new buses from 2016-17 orders are heading... Here are the details of this years deliveries 20923 - 20932 Volvo B11R for Dublin. 33431 - 33449 Enviro 400 MMC for Scotland East. 33450 - 33479 Enviro 400 MMC for Camborne. 33480 - 33487 Enviro 400 MMC for Hunslet Park. 33488 - 33490 Enviro 400 MMC for Lawrence Hill. 33491 - 33498 Enviro 400 MMC for Bath. 33931 - 33942 Enviro 400 MMC for Bristol. 35168 - 35192 Wrightbus Streetdeck for Leicester. 35193 - 35201 Wrightbus Streetdeck for Norwich. 35202 - 35213 Wrightbus Streetdeck for Hunslet Park. 35214 - 35228 Wrightbus Streetdeck for Bramley. 35229 - 35238 Wrightbus Streetdeck for Bradford. 36601 - 36620 Scania N280UD CNG for Lawrence Hill. 39314 - 39321 Enviro 400 GKN flywheel for Hunslet Park. 63369 - 63381 Wrightbus Streetlite Max DF for Rotherham. 63382 - 63383 Wrightbus Streetlite Max DF for Doncaster. 63384 - 63388 Wrightbus Streetlite Max DF for Olive Grove. 67096 - 67105 Enviro 200 MMC for Caledonia. 67141 - 67150 Enviro 200 MMC for Doncaster. 67151 - 67166 Enviro 200 MMC for Adderley Green. 67167 - 67183 Enviro 200 MMC for Hoeford. 67184 - 67197 Enviro 200 MMC for Slough. This is proved correct HP will have the most with 3 differing models followed by Doncaster with 2 differing models. Another interesting thing is that HP have got both the traditional and MMC models of e400 if im not mistaken.
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Post by 112jct41 on May 3, 2016 20:02:56 GMT 1
Arriva Dewsbury 126/7 branded Gemini 1510 on a early evening 212 its normal for one of them to be on (it does a 253 to Bradford and back) I just travelled on it back to Batley from Wakefield.
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Post by 112jct41 on May 2, 2016 18:23:50 GMT 1
Tiger will be fine.....just wait and see... The new man is from over my side of the Big Hill with Arriva NW&W the last few years he had been the operations manager at Bangor depot. no he's not he's from First York.
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Post by 112jct41 on May 1, 2016 20:31:16 GMT 1
Tiger will be fine.....just wait and see... exactly what I've said several times. We need to give them chance to re-build, improve and develop under a leader. The only way Arriva HQ can help is by cascadeding decent buses from other depots and are no longer wanted but are still reliable like recently with the alx400s, the geminis, the 3 cadets, the 2 darts pointers, the 51 plate solo and the wright renown.
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Post by 112jct41 on Apr 30, 2016 18:15:21 GMT 1
Okay enough slagging both arriva and yorkshire tiger off. Arriva have helped as best they can since the fire at elland and flood at leeds depots. Arriva also do maintainance on the tiger fleet. Everyone needs to give the new manager chance to settle in as he's only been with them a fortnight. Tiger are starting to improve and get back on its proverbial feet however there may be changes afoot service wise as the results for the 80's,231/232/241 & 435/436/437 network review from Metro and then for whats happening at Leeds depot the North Leeds review when the results for that are out in towards the end of this year. Also to be taken into account is the school runs as it cant be 100% guaranteed they will stay the same.
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Post by 112jct41 on Apr 30, 2016 13:20:23 GMT 1
I have always wondered why Arriva own YT but recently have been very poor at helping them out considering YT have had a troubled year. I think Arriva should step in, kill the tiger and convert most of the operations into Arriva. I mean they are stupid to have not taken the opportunity to own a Depot in Leeds and own the Airport Services. What do you guys think? In a way Arriva r trying to keep it going we need to give ot a few months so the new manager can settle in and work things out then if he cant then the arriva full takeover may be viable.
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Post by 112jct41 on Apr 29, 2016 20:11:58 GMT 1
First Huddersfield 32509 parked with hazard lights on, in Fartown area. AY 1102 eclipse on 229's 1525 is on 229 as well.
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New Buses
Apr 28, 2016 7:05:56 GMT 1
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Post by 112jct41 on Apr 28, 2016 7:05:56 GMT 1
There needed as Bramley have around 40 04 reg Geminis/alxs400 b7tls I can see the older alx400s going but the 04 plate geminis may get cascaded as there is still a lot of royales and a few olympians in everyday operation.
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Post by 112jct41 on Apr 28, 2016 7:02:50 GMT 1
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Post by 112jct41 on Apr 27, 2016 20:21:58 GMT 1
I'm sure I've just seen 896 on the 231/232 in Wakefield, it certainly wasn't a Scania & was in the Heart Radio advert It must be back. it could be although recently its been either a president or gemini on the decker duties.
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Post by 112jct41 on Apr 27, 2016 17:16:14 GMT 1
BL Travel have what appears to be an orange 64 plate Optare out on their 223 service today. Not sure if it's an acquisition or a loan. Sent via SM-G901F from Penfold on the road. sounds like it could be the Metrocity demo bus, Longataff had a few months ago on 205.
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Post by 112jct41 on Apr 27, 2016 14:59:36 GMT 1
1488 is on 126/127 whilst 1511 is on 281/283. Travelled on CT Plus Leeds BX54DLK today and boy does it need some work doing. The suspension doesn't work and it needs converting to single door unless its here temporarily.
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Post by 112jct41 on Apr 27, 2016 12:13:54 GMT 1
Arriva Yorkshire Hybrid 1702 in Wakefield this morning on the 189 There seem to be a daily working of the Hybrids at some point on the 189s. AY 1710 was on the 1900 189 to Leeds yesterday evening. Penfold there was one on the knottingleys yesterday morning as well.
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Post by 112jct41 on Apr 25, 2016 14:30:34 GMT 1
Ex-london dart BX54DLK is with leeds branch either on loan or as a permanant to be a spare bus for DFTB when one of the other 2 are of the road and so as not to use the accessbus solos as much.
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Post by 112jct41 on Apr 23, 2016 21:08:29 GMT 1
I have been around Halifax today and have spoken to several Tiger driver all said that Leeds depot is not closing but relocating to new premises That would kind of make sense after the flood at the beginning of this year.
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Post by 112jct41 on Apr 20, 2016 21:38:28 GMT 1
AY Gemini 1531, based at Wakefield, ran the 127 at 15:50 to Dewsbury. Thought Dewsbury had all the 126/7 duties. BI kept the peak time trips and the other 3 along with 1516-1518 came to Dewsbury.
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Post by 112jct41 on Apr 20, 2016 7:04:05 GMT 1
Daf Wright Gemini 831 has also moved across to Waterloo and is on 231/2 today Thats 2 down 2 to come across. Lets hope 905 & 906 return as well.
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Post by 112jct41 on Apr 19, 2016 22:12:58 GMT 1
548 is still at Leeds, was on the 29 this afternoon. at least its were its of decent use.
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Post by 112jct41 on Apr 19, 2016 22:12:08 GMT 1
The Heart FM Trident at Waterloo, V reg ELC body (can't remember reg or fleet no) now looks partially cannabilised, possibly now withdrawn? 896. Last time i saw it a fortnight ago the desti still wasnt working.
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Post by 112jct41 on Apr 19, 2016 19:12:29 GMT 1
Is 548 still at Leeds as I've not seen it on Huddersfield runs recently plus whats happening with 380, staying or scrapping, as it was in yard been stripped the last i saw it???
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Post by 112jct41 on Apr 17, 2016 19:07:39 GMT 1
Not sure it's true that Castleford get more new buses more frequently Wakefield obviously do as their depot is much bigger than the others. In any case new buses "every 2-4 years" isn't exactly bad. Do you expect every years order to have to be distributed across every depot regardless of any specific requirement? you would expect everyone to get a fair share not. Castlford had the pulsars then the hybrids then the 8 mini e200s one year after the other.
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Post by 112jct41 on Apr 17, 2016 17:37:39 GMT 1
Arriva Dewsbury and Arriva Heckmondwike only get new buses every 2 to 4 years whilst Wakefield and Castleford are every 18 months at least and Selby are due their share as the last new additions were the geminis in 2009 and the 4 solos on 2013 and prior to that 260-262 were the last new buses in 2005. Its alright saying send new to the moneymaking depots but the others need their fair share of new buses. Don't forget 2008, when Hecky got the 13 Volvo Eclipses & 14 ADL Enviro 400's in the same year, then it was 3.5 years, before Hecky got the 61 plates after those. BUT.......before 2008, it was 2002, when Hecky last got new buses, which were 718 - 23 DAF Optare Spectra's for X33, so, this theory of it being approx every 4 years, goes out of the window, when you then think back to the K & L reg Dennis Lance's (801 - 18), which, I, believe were the last new ones for Hecky, before the W reg Volvo Renowns (102 - 4/6 - 9) & X reg Volvo Plaxton Presidents (687 - 96) arrived in 2000/1 the lances were numbered 801-830 and were purchased under west riding/Yorkshire buses/selby and district. Then it was the alx200s (and these were the last if i remember under this umbrella)then the alx300, spectras 624-641 AND after them it was the the Renowns and alx400s then the presidents when arriva started to be phased in then it was the 02 plate spectras then the 04 plate commanders then the 06 plate lowlanders and 56 commanders then the 57 plate commanders then we know the rest however the only ones not to be bought but are on lease from AB&C (apart from 1496-98) are 57 and 58.
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Post by 112jct41 on Apr 17, 2016 15:03:48 GMT 1
New buses go to the most profitable depots or onto the services that have the best growth potential. Cascades of still modern older buses go to the less profitable, so you can improve two places at once. The older ex Manchester Gemini's at Huddersfield being an example of this. Very off topic but you are telling me that Arriva Dewsbury and Heckmondwike are starved of new buses? Did you miss the vast numbers of new buses they have both received in the last 10 years? Arriva Dewsbury and Arriva Heckmondwike only get new buses every 2 to 4 years whilst Wakefield and Castleford are every 18 months at least and Selby are due their share as the last new additions were the geminis in 2009 and the 4 solos on 2013 and prior to that 260-262 were the last new buses in 2005. Its alright saying send new to the moneymaking depots but the others need their fair share of new buses.
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Post by 112jct41 on Apr 17, 2016 12:26:46 GMT 1
FIRST WEST YORKSHIRE NEWS Streetdecks - 37 are due and will be split between Hunslet Park, Bramley and Bradford depots. Route allocations yet to be finalised. Several Volvos with ALX and Gemini bodies due from within First to enable all Olympians to depart by end July and oldest B7TLs to go by December. From my source at FirstLeeds. This from Facebook (I know it's possibly not the most trusted source) so Huddersfield and Halifax will both become predominantly Geminis and "younger" alx400s whilst the others have will a variety whilst and every depot is already wrightbus for single deckers. Is it me or do Kirklees depots (First Huddersfield, Arriva Dewsbury & Arriva Heckmomdwike) and First Calderdale always have delays getting new buses eg the last new buses at Arriva Heckmondwike were the geminis and the 2 61 plate pulsars so surely they're due some and i dont mean cascades either. First Huddersfield dont have any brand new deckers either they've only had the 12 plate eclipses and 14 plate streetlites as brand new buses recently. Okay Arriva Dewsbury got New e400s for 202/203 but the only new buses before were the pulsars and the geminis the year before. First Calderdales latest new buses were the 13 plate eclipses and last years streetlites. (I'm also aware thats what Bradford got) Why push brand new on the big city depots yearly and the others have to have such big gaps between orders?
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Post by 112jct41 on Apr 15, 2016 21:12:23 GMT 1
So YT have withdrawn 5 services (all four uni ones and the 401), lost four services (900/901/911/933) and are running 757 24/7 but withdrawn some morning and evening services. So leeds will be running 38, 59, 60a, 61, 61a x63, 75, 75a, 76 and the airport trio and schools. That may explain the possiblity of reshuffle of the fleet. We'll have to until july to see if leeds shuts and moves as july is when the school changes start if my i remember correctly. The university services are withdrawn because it's the end of term. They've obviously decided there is no point running them at a reduced frequency across the summer. I'm not sure you can assume they are withdrawn for good. School service changes tend to start in September, funnily enough. Many of Tiger's are run on a commercial basis though. The school year finishes a fortnight before the July changes so they start getting reviewed in july and the changes and withdrawments are announced for september and universites dont until june so why withdraw a month early if the services are used so much as it would make sense to wait until they've fininshed and the students return home.
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