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Post by MetrolineGA1511 on Dec 9, 2023 14:10:40 GMT 1
Just a shame they can't extend the MetroLink through to Huddersfield. Far better than the buses !! From there it could then be extended to Leeds. Then Leeds would no longer be the largest city in Europe without a light railway. It would also be more frequent and reliable than TransPennine Express.
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Post by michael1971 on Dec 9, 2023 15:29:09 GMT 1
I can confirm Stagecoach (OLDHAM DEPOT, BEE NETWORK) From March 2024 will be operating service 184 Huddersfield to Oldham and return . i take it will be back to old route and thank goodness for that
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Post by deerfold on Dec 9, 2023 17:03:48 GMT 1
I can confirm Stagecoach (OLDHAM DEPOT, BEE NETWORK) From March 2024 will be operating service 184 Huddersfield to Oldham and return . i take it will be back to old route and thank goodness for that Why do you take it that that will happen?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 9, 2023 17:21:38 GMT 1
I Don't think it will happen straight away, as whilst the 184 is on the list of routes awarded to Stagecoach non of the previous routes serving Greenacres are (81A or 80) so unless they are going back further & re-extending the 415 then it looks like the 184 route will remain unchanged until at least 2025.
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Post by michael1971 on Dec 9, 2023 19:10:37 GMT 1
i take it will be back to old route and thank goodness for that Why do you take it that that will happen? bit i meant was from Standage border to Huddersfield ie direct route not GM side
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Post by deerfold on Dec 9, 2023 21:27:04 GMT 1
Why do you take it that that will happen? bit i meant was from Standage border to Huddersfield ie direct route not GM side I understand that, but I'm no clearer why you think it will happen.
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Post by driver6540 on Dec 9, 2023 22:53:45 GMT 1
I can confirm Stagecoach (OLDHAM DEPOT, BEE NETWORK) From March 2024 will be operating service 184 Huddersfield to Oldham and return . Hopefully it will revert to its former route direct on the A62 and also omitting Greenacres. When Hudds depot took over the 184 they withdrew the 183 and instead re-routed the 184 up Cowlersley Lane/Gillroyd Lane and Colne Valley high school thus ensuring a direct link to Marsden following the same route to Marsden Hard End as the 183 took. The 185 was deemed adequate to serve the direct A62 route to Marsden Dirker. The only other route that deviates from the A62 to serve the aforementioned areas is the 181 Wilberlee service (hourly) which doe's not run to Marsden. I for one would hope the Stagecoach 184 continues it's existing route when they take over as the loss of a direct link to Marsden from CVHS and Linthwaite would make things difficult for a lot of people who rely on that well used section of that route.
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Post by driver6540 on Dec 9, 2023 23:05:32 GMT 1
Just a shame they can't extend the MetroLink through to Huddersfield. Far better than the buses !! From there it could then be extended to Leeds. Then Leeds would no longer be the largest city in Europe without a light railway. It would also be more frequent and reliable than TransPennine Express. Probably sounds anal but, the largest city in Europe without a Light railway is Glasgow. Admittedly they have an underground system "the clockwork orange" but that's not a Light railway. I'll shut up now as this is going off-topic. But, totally agree with your comment about TPE
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Post by steve440 on Dec 10, 2023 1:22:15 GMT 1
Hopefully it will revert to its former route direct on the A62 and also omitting Greenacres. When Hudds depot took over the 184 they withdrew the 183 and instead re-routed the 184 up Cowlersley Lane/Gillroyd Lane and Colne Valley high school thus ensuring a direct link to Marsden following the same route to Marsden Hard End as the 183 took. The 185 was deemed adequate to serve the direct A62 route to Marsden Dirker. The only other route that deviates from the A62 to serve the aforementioned areas is the 181 Wilberlee service (hourly) which doe's not run to Marsden. I for one would hope the Stagecoach 184 continues it's existing route when they take over as the loss of a direct link to Marsden from CVHS and Linthwaite would make things difficult for a lot of people who rely on that well used section of that route. When I said route the 184 via the A62 I am assuming First would reinstate the 183 as the 184 presumably would be a stand alone route.
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Post by michael1971 on Dec 10, 2023 15:16:32 GMT 1
When Hudds depot took over the 184 they withdrew the 183 and instead re-routed the 184 up Cowlersley Lane/Gillroyd Lane and Colne Valley high school thus ensuring a direct link to Marsden following the same route to Marsden Hard End as the 183 took. The 185 was deemed adequate to serve the direct A62 route to Marsden Dirker. The only other route that deviates from the A62 to serve the aforementioned areas is the 181 Wilberlee service (hourly) which doe's not run to Marsden. I for one would hope the Stagecoach 184 continues it's existing route when they take over as the loss of a direct link to Marsden from CVHS and Linthwaite would make things difficult for a lot of people who rely on that well used section of that route. When I said route the 184 via the A62 I am assuming First would reinstate the 183 as the 184 presumably would be a stand alone route. i think thats what would happen at the moment on evenings and Sunday Huddersfield run a 184 to Marsden Hard end and on sundays every other hour to the Oldham times
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Post by mattb7tl on Dec 10, 2023 15:32:33 GMT 1
I still firmly believe the perfect service for Colne Valley, is a 15 minute combined service along Manchester Road (old 184 + 185) and a 30 minute service to Linthwaite and Slaithwaite I don't believe they have ever given the 181 a late timetable. I do think it would reap more benefits than the 183, as well as lower costs. Slaithwaite is up and coming, and being totally realistic, half the town isn't in a realistic walking distance of Manchester Road. It isn't a fun walk to Hill Top, especially with the terrain.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 10, 2023 15:49:08 GMT 1
I still firmly believe the perfect service for Colne Valley, is a 15 minute combined service along Manchester Road (old 184 + 185) and a 30 minute service to Linthwaite and Slaithwaite I don't believe they have ever given the 181 a late timetable. I do think it would reap more benefits than the 183, as well as lower costs. Slaithwaite is up and coming, and being totally realistic, half the town isn't in a realistic walking distance of Manchester Road. It isn't a fun walk to Hill Top, especially with the terrain. To be honest what you suggested sounds similar to the old 305/348-352/390-394 set up. When the 181-185 numbers first came in the 181 didn't needed a evening timetable as there was the evening/Sundays 182 what covered all over the 181 & 183 routes (plus Blackmoorfoot), the 182 being the 351 in the previous set up. I Believe First introduced a commercial 183 Evening service what is when the Wilberlee section on an Evening/Sundays became the 396. Of course one other thing to remember is Slaithwaite has the rail station with a hourly evening service running later than the buses & is within walking distance of the majority of the town (at least on the days TPE remembers it actually operates trains)
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Post by peteleeds on Dec 18, 2023 20:42:15 GMT 1
According to a local councillor 🚨Update 🚨 Replacement No 9 Bus Service - Horsforth to White Rose. As you will be aware Yorkshire Buses have deregistered the service from 24th December. Dear Cllr, We have found a replacement operator, and are finalising details. We will be able to update you with the details in the morning.
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Post by joseph on Dec 19, 2023 7:26:07 GMT 1
According to a local councillor 🚨Update 🚨 Replacement No 9 Bus Service - Horsforth to White Rose. As you will be aware Yorkshire Buses have deregistered the service from 24th December. Dear Cllr, We have found a replacement operator, and are finalising details. We will be able to update you with the details in the morning. Ah, so going by the wording 'replacement operator' then that means Yorkshire Buses hasn't won the contract. It wouldn't surprise me if it was a total outsider like Hunters who won, or even someone like Tetleys. TLC using a Solo would be a reasonably good fit as their depot in Bradford is within fairly easy reach of the Horsforth end of route, defo within reach of Pudsey and again using the motorway or A650/A643 or A653 is within fairly easy reach of the White Rose end of the route.
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Post by WYBS on Dec 19, 2023 8:39:52 GMT 1
According to a local councillor 🚨Update 🚨 Replacement No 9 Bus Service - Horsforth to White Rose. As you will be aware Yorkshire Buses have deregistered the service from 24th December. Dear Cllr, We have found a replacement operator, and are finalising details. We will be able to update you with the details in the morning. Ah, so going by the wording 'replacement operator' then that means Yorkshire Buses hasn't won the contract. It wouldn't surprise me if it was a total outsider like Hunters who won, or even someone like Tetleys. TLC using a Solo would be a reasonably good fit as their depot in Bradford is within fairly easy reach of the Horsforth end of route, defo within reach of Pudsey and again using the motorway or A650/A643 or A653 is within fairly easy reach of the White Rose end of the route. TLC using a solo would leave dozens of students and workers unable to board coming home from the White Rose Centre in the afternoon.
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Post by smithy on Dec 19, 2023 10:35:31 GMT 1
Bet it will be a 2 hourly timed around the morning and afternoon college and school runs
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Post by WYBS on Dec 19, 2023 10:46:07 GMT 1
Local Councillor Peter Carlill confirmed that it is Squarepeg this morning.
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Post by kendall17 on Dec 19, 2023 12:05:32 GMT 1
Bet it will be a 2 hourly timed around the morning and afternoon college and school runs Nope, still hourly, with no evening journeys and slightly less frequency on Saturday. Renumbered to become the 10 Typically a 10min connection time at each end with the 9.
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Post by smithy on Dec 19, 2023 13:04:08 GMT 1
No evening trips so does they mean nothing after 6pm
And Saturday 90 mins
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Post by peteleeds on Dec 19, 2023 14:39:56 GMT 1
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Post by deerfold on Dec 19, 2023 16:57:45 GMT 1
5x75 min gaps and 2x90 mins.
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Post by WYBS on Dec 19, 2023 17:55:24 GMT 1
'Evening journeys, which were introduced on a trial basis by Yorkshire Buses, will no longer operate'.
Interesting statement. As if to say First didn't run any evening journeys... they did!
I do find it fascinating how Leeds is one of (if not) THE fastest growing cities in the country, has no mmass transit system and yet bus travel is still in massive decline in certain areas. Also funny how the areas that it's in decline in seem to be the 'up and coming' places like Horsforth and Farsley.
I do hope franchising could turn this around, but I won't hold my breath.
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Post by stephen01 on Dec 19, 2023 18:50:10 GMT 1
'Evening journeys, which were introduced on a trial basis by Yorkshire Buses, will no longer operate'. Interesting statement. As if to say First didn't run any evening journeys... they did! I do find it fascinating how Leeds is one of (if not) THE fastest growing cities in the country, has no mmass transit system and yet bus travel is still in massive decline in certain areas. Also funny how the areas that it's in decline in seem to be the 'up and coming' places like Horsforth and Farsley. I do hope franchising could turn this around, but I won't hold my breath. Think Metro are getting the 9 & 29 mixed up as it was the weekday evening trips on 29 that was the trial.
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Post by joseph on Dec 19, 2023 19:08:06 GMT 1
Regarding the evening trips on the 9, these were on trial as they were originally going to be axed when the 9A was curtailed however Yorkshire Buses kept them on for a trial basis, obviously the numbers don't warrant keeping them on. Regarding the potential for TLC, had they won, using a Solo. I've not seen more than 10 people on board on my section just off Beeston Ring Road at Cottingley either direction which includes a very late running journey around 8.40am at Whitehall Roundabout heading to White Rose a few weeks ago, that had a handful on board you'd think it'd have more on board bearing in mind it's a peak time bus.
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Post by stephen01 on Dec 19, 2023 19:21:46 GMT 1
Regarding the evening trips on the 9, these were on trial as they were originally going to be axed when the 9A was curtailed however Yorkshire Buses kept them on for a trial basis, obviously the numbers don't warrant keeping them on. Regarding the potential for TLC, had they won, using a Solo. I've not seen more than 10 people on board on my section just off Beeston Ring Road at Cottingley either direction which includes a very late running journey around 8.40am at Whitehall Roundabout heading to White Rose a few weeks ago, that had a handful on board you'd think it'd have more on board bearing in mind it's a peak time bus. Could be case of custom dropped due to the delays and swapping and dropping of buses on the route.
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