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Post by Username on Jul 5, 2023 20:24:00 GMT 1
The stops missed by Coastliner are York Road Pontefract Lane, Clenthorpe Terrace, Harrison Crescent, Halton Dial, Seacroft Hospital outbound from Leeds and Pontefract Lane and York Street towards Leeds Wouldn't it make sense for buses to serve Seacroft Hospital?
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Post by deerfold on Jul 5, 2023 20:51:36 GMT 1
The stops missed by Coastliner are York Road Pontefract Lane, Clenthorpe Terrace, Harrison Crescent, Halton Dial, Seacroft Hospital outbound from Leeds and Pontefract Lane and York Street towards Leeds I wonder if they're going to publicise that anywhere passengers will actually see it?
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Post by delenn on Jul 5, 2023 21:31:00 GMT 1
I'm not convinced how much time the Coastliner missing those stops will actually save them.
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Post by stevieinselby on Jul 5, 2023 22:47:53 GMT 1
I'm not convinced how much time the Coastliner missing those stops will actually save them. I wonder if it is more about stopping local passengers travelling within Leeds from clogging up the long-distance bus instead of using local services.
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Post by jonny182 on Jul 5, 2023 22:48:21 GMT 1
I'm not convinced how much time the Coastliner missing those stops will actually save them. I agree. This will be confusing to passengers and of drivers remember the stops. Particularly towards Leeds on York Street when you end up being stuck behind another bus or a few stopping at the York Street/Brick Street stop and due to the new road layout, it is difficult to overtake a stopped bus.
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Post by joseph on Jul 6, 2023 6:21:04 GMT 1
When it comes to the Coastliner stop changes, the SAS words 'keep it simple stupid' should have been entrenched in the minds of the person who made up these stops. Instead you'll now find some drivers stopping at every stop requested by passengers because they simply don't know the names of every stop, you'll find the sympathetic driver or three stopping at every stop requested because they feel sorry for the rain soaked sods stood there and then theirs the group of drivers who'll stick to the new stops causing anger, confusion, complaints etc. Why didn't they just simply state it'll be non stop between Leeds and Burger King roundabout, there are enough local buses that passengers can use for local journeys on that stretch and for those using the Coastliner, well a change of bus won't harm, it's what people from South Leeds have to do.
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Post by kendall17 on Jul 6, 2023 12:13:47 GMT 1
When it comes to the Coastliner stop changes, the SAS words 'keep it simple stupid' should have been entrenched in the minds of the person who made up these stops. Instead you'll now find some drivers stopping at every stop requested by passengers because they simply don't know the names of every stop, you'll find the sympathetic driver or three stopping at every stop requested because they feel sorry for the rain soaked sods stood there and then theirs the group of drivers who'll stick to the new stops causing anger, confusion, complaints etc. Why didn't they just simply state it'll be non stop between Leeds and Burger King roundabout, there are enough local buses that passengers can use for local journeys on that stretch and for those using the Coastliner, well a change of bus won't harm, it's what people from South Leeds have to do. Because before the fare cap being introduced and buses being full, there was always smatterings of people who would use Coastliner from/to some of the stops. Extra cash when the bus isn't to the brim.
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Post by joseph on Jul 9, 2023 19:41:47 GMT 1
Strong rumour that the 342 will be an off peak only service from mid July according to a number of people up Almondbury, a local councillor or somebody in authority up there informed the local nursing home would you believe, I'm assuming it's in case they have workers using it.
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Post by deerfold on Jul 9, 2023 19:58:58 GMT 1
Strong rumour that the 342 will be an off peak only service from mid July according to a number of people up Almondbury, a local councillor or somebody in authority up there informed the local nursing home would you believe, I'm assuming it's in case they have workers using it. The timetable is on the Metro website. Monday to Friday it'll be hourly from 0902 to 1402. Saturday it runs until 1702. Late buses on the 15 and 75 are being withdrawn and the last 3 daily buses on the 626 are withdrawn between Bradford and Shipley with some early 622s and 626s going, too.
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Post by joseph on Jul 9, 2023 20:36:47 GMT 1
Strong rumour that the 342 will be an off peak only service from mid July according to a number of people up Almondbury, a local councillor or somebody in authority up there informed the local nursing home would you believe, I'm assuming it's in case they have workers using it. The timetable is on the Metro website. Monday to Friday it'll be hourly from 0902 to 1402. Saturday it runs until 1702. Late buses on the 15 and 75 are being withdrawn and the last 3 daily buses on the 626 are withdrawn between Bradford and Shipley with some early 622s and 626s going, too. They might as well fully withdraw the 342 as I can't see many wanting to use it at that frequency with such poor hours of operation, it's gone from every 20 mins for a good 12 hour operating span to hourly for just a 5 hour operating day in a matter of just a small number of years. Also, what's the point in those short 626 workings, people will just get a taxi to/from Bradford rather than do the mess about changing in Shipley.
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Post by mattb7tl on Jul 9, 2023 21:29:02 GMT 1
First never truly grasped the demand for the 342. It was simply a convenient option for commuters traveling between Huddersfield and Almondbury, providing a faster alternative to the 372. However, the circular nature of the bus route completely undermined its purpose in one direction. Yet, establishing a non-circular route in the area would probably make for an awkward PVR.
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Post by deerfold on Jul 9, 2023 21:32:07 GMT 1
The timetable is on the Metro website. Monday to Friday it'll be hourly from 0902 to 1402. Saturday it runs until 1702. Late buses on the 15 and 75 are being withdrawn and the last 3 daily buses on the 626 are withdrawn between Bradford and Shipley with some early 622s and 626s going, too. They might as well fully withdraw the 342 as I can't see many wanting to use it at that frequency with such poor hours of operation, it's gone from every 20 mins for a good 12 hour operating span to hourly for just a 5 hour operating day in a matter of just a small number of years. Also, what's the point in those short 626 workings, people will just get a taxi to/from Bradford rather than do the mess about changing in Shipley. The number of buses operating between Bradford and Shipley has dropped massively in recent years with several now having dropped that part of the route and some disappearing altogether, When I did the journey regularly there were at least 16 buses an hour during the day and 10 in the evening.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 9, 2023 21:34:34 GMT 1
The timetable is on the Metro website. Monday to Friday it'll be hourly from 0902 to 1402. Saturday it runs until 1702. Late buses on the 15 and 75 are being withdrawn and the last 3 daily buses on the 626 are withdrawn between Bradford and Shipley with some early 622s and 626s going, too. They might as well fully withdraw the 342 as I can't see many wanting to use it at that frequency with such poor hours of operation, it's gone from every 20 mins for a good 12 hour operating span to hourly for just a 5 hour operating day in a matter of just a small number of years. Also, what's the point in those short 626 workings, people will just get a taxi to/from Bradford rather than do the mess about changing in Shipley. Guessing they've decided to run it like that so they can claim to still be providing some sort of service whilst allowing it to easily work on/off schools during term time to reduce costs, I'm actually a little surprised they've not done the same with 387 yet. Looking at the 626 timetable, they will still run the full length from Bradford to Baildon then terminate short on the return so people can still get home on a evening & I Doubt there will be many people wanting to travel Into Bradford at that time, looks like a way to reduce driving hour requirements.
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Post by mattb7tl on Jul 9, 2023 21:43:29 GMT 1
It's crazy to me when you compare the company's house of AY & FWY, then take a look at what company is making the most cuts. Healthiest finances and they are out here with this behaviour. AY: -250,000 FWY: +4,000,000
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Post by deerfold on Jul 9, 2023 21:43:29 GMT 1
They might as well fully withdraw the 342 as I can't see many wanting to use it at that frequency with such poor hours of operation, it's gone from every 20 mins for a good 12 hour operating span to hourly for just a 5 hour operating day in a matter of just a small number of years. Also, what's the point in those short 626 workings, people will just get a taxi to/from Bradford rather than do the mess about changing in Shipley. Guessing they've decided to run it like that so they can claim to still be providing some sort of service whilst allowing it to easily work on/off schools during term time to reduce costs, I'm actually a little surprised they've not done the same with 387 yet. Looking at the 626 timetable, they will still run the full length from Bradford to Baildon then terminate short on the return so people can still get home on a evening & I Doubt there will be many people wanting to travel Into Bradford at that time, looks like a way to reduce driving hour requirements. The last direct bus from Bradford to Baildon on the 626 goes from being at 2313 to being at 2008. Looks fairly significant. There will still be a 634 at 2155 but by a very different route between Bradford and Shipley.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 9, 2023 21:52:59 GMT 1
Guessing they've decided to run it like that so they can claim to still be providing some sort of service whilst allowing it to easily work on/off schools during term time to reduce costs, I'm actually a little surprised they've not done the same with 387 yet. Looking at the 626 timetable, they will still run the full length from Bradford to Baildon then terminate short on the return so people can still get home on a evening & I Doubt there will be many people wanting to travel Into Bradford at that time, looks like a way to reduce driving hour requirements. The last direct bus from Bradford to Baildon on the 626 goes from being at 2313 to being at 2008. Looks fairly significant. There will still be a 634 at 2155 but by a very different route between Bradford and Shipley. Just re-read & your correct the cuts are fairly significant, the least they could of done was made the short journeys match up better with 612 arriving in Shipley (or even just run them as one). Even using train would be useless as 626 departs from the market place around the same time the closest timed train from Bradford arrives at the Station.
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Post by westyorkshirebus on Jul 9, 2023 21:55:51 GMT 1
First never truly grasped the demand for the 342. It was simply a convenient option for commuters traveling between Huddersfield and Almondbury, providing a faster alternative to the 372. However, the circular nature of the bus route completely undermined its purpose in one direction. Yet, establishing a non-circular route in the area would probably make for an awkward PVR. Isn’t the main point of the 342 to serve Fernside Avenue and various other parts of Almondbury, presumably mainly for pass holders who can’t walk to the 372 route Almondbury is a funny one where the main most frequent service is the most indirect, and direct buses have never really been that frequent. I remember services like the 340 which provided a direct service and it was withdrawn
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Post by mattb7tl on Jul 9, 2023 22:28:06 GMT 1
First never truly grasped the demand for the 342. It was simply a convenient option for commuters traveling between Huddersfield and Almondbury, providing a faster alternative to the 372. However, the circular nature of the bus route completely undermined its purpose in one direction. Yet, establishing a non-circular route in the area would probably make for an awkward PVR. Isn’t the main point of the 342 to serve Fernside Avenue and various other parts of Almondbury, presumably mainly for pass holders who can’t walk to the 372 route Almondbury is a funny one where the main most frequent service is the most indirect, and direct buses have never really been that frequent. I remember services like the 340 which provided a direct service and it was withdrawn That's definitely the point behind the route but certainly not demand. I've been a bit of a nerd and tried to think of ideas to serve the village quickly with google maps and it is extremely difficult to achieve that without using the village as a stepping stone to a longer more bold bus route.
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Post by westyorkshirebus on Jul 9, 2023 23:04:23 GMT 1
Isn’t the main point of the 342 to serve Fernside Avenue and various other parts of Almondbury, presumably mainly for pass holders who can’t walk to the 372 route Almondbury is a funny one where the main most frequent service is the most indirect, and direct buses have never really been that frequent. I remember services like the 340 which provided a direct service and it was withdrawn That's definitely the point behind the route but certainly not demand. I've been a bit of a nerd and tried to think of ideas to serve the village quickly with google maps and it is extremely difficult to achieve that without using the village as a stepping stone to a longer more bold bus route. That eastern half of the 372 looks a bit odd on paper, being that strange dog leg shape, but I presume it must work having existed for a million years. Why you’d want to go from Almondbury to Huddersfield via Waterloo I’m not sure
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Post by joseph on Jul 10, 2023 6:11:41 GMT 1
Just noticed the 74 Leeds to Middleton service will see it's last 2 round trips axed if the upcoming timetable is correct. How many more services are set to see the axe, regardless of the daft rules set by Government that 3 million spent on a waste of space DRT should have been spent on saving bus services because I doubt anybody living off the 74 route that's working late will chance the dreadful walk through the Broom estate late at night from Belle Isle Road. A new local taxi firm has recently set up in South Leeds, they're doing really well apparently so I bet they'll be loving the extra income.
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Post by dennisthemenace504 on Jul 10, 2023 6:45:59 GMT 1
Strong rumour that the 342 will be an off peak only service from mid July according to a number of people up Almondbury, a local councillor or somebody in authority up there informed the local nursing home would you believe, I'm assuming it's in case they have workers using it. The 342 was never well used when TLC took on the Evenings and Sundays operations when they started in Huddersfield October 2015
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Post by steve440 on Jul 10, 2023 7:47:19 GMT 1
First never truly grasped the demand for the 342. It was simply a convenient option for commuters traveling between Huddersfield and Almondbury, providing a faster alternative to the 372. However, the circular nature of the bus route completely undermined its purpose in one direction. Yet, establishing a non-circular route in the area would probably make for an awkward PVR. Isn’t the main point of the 342 to serve Fernside Avenue and various other parts of Almondbury, presumably mainly for pass holders who can’t walk to the 372 route Almondbury is a funny one where the main most frequent service is the most indirect, and direct buses have never really been that frequent. I remember services like the 340 which provided a direct service and it was withdrawn The direct service to Almondbury used to be up to every 6 minutes in trolleybus days.
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Post by BusNut on Jul 10, 2023 12:57:47 GMT 1
Just noticed the 74 Leeds to Middleton service will see it's last 2 round trips axed if the upcoming timetable is correct. How many more services are set to see the axe, regardless of the daft rules set by Government that 3 million spent on a waste of space DRT should have been spent on saving bus services because I doubt anybody living off the 74 route that's working late will chance the dreadful walk through the Broom estate late at night from Belle Isle Road. A new local taxi firm has recently set up in South Leeds, they're doing really well apparently so I bet they'll be loving the extra income. It looks like First West Yorkshire maybe following First South Yorkshire's lead and de-registering a lot of late evening and Sunday trips, in the hope that WYCA maybe able to step in and fund the late evening trips. However, this doesn't always work out as planned. Stagecoach for instance snapped up a large chunk of First South Yorkshire's former core network in Rotherham and some evening/Sunday tenders didn't get awarded due to the high cost and low passenger use. A dangerous game to play, but ultimately they are a business and sometimes change is required. First South Yorkshire has now moved to a profitable position for the 1st time in nearly a decade!
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Post by Deleted on Jul 10, 2023 16:04:38 GMT 1
How many more services are set to see the axe, regardless of the daft rules set by Government that 3 million spent on a waste of space DRT should have been spent on saving bus services. Whilst that sounds like a nice idea to just ignore the DFT Rules over funding, considering that would of probably resulted in both a fine & removal of BSIP funding it would make things worse in the long run.
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Post by rossbailey on Jul 12, 2023 10:59:41 GMT 1
Yorkshire Buses just announced its Service 29 changes from 24th July 2023.
From Monday 24th July 2023 we are making some changes to service 29, it will still continue to run hourly but will be extended at both ends of it's current route buses will now serve The White Rose Centre travelling direct from Hunslet along Dewsbury Road.
Leaving The White Rose buses will serve Hunslet Shopping Centre and then along existing route via Leeds Dock, Leeds Bus Station City Centre, The Universities, Hyde Park the service will then continue to Headingley, West Park, Old Otley Road, Tinshill Lane, Horsforth Station and Horsforth The Green.
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