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Post by Username on Jun 23, 2023 17:55:04 GMT 1
None of the above is to do with July service changes?
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Post by JC on Jun 24, 2023 9:55:28 GMT 1
It looks like the changes to services 509 510 511 512 513 have been dropped. The latest version of the changes 'public-transport-changes-july-2023-14002.pdf' got updated quickly from 'public-transport-changes-july-2023-14001.pdf' www.wymetro.com/media/9630/public-transport-changes-july-2023-14002.pdfI've complained about the 521 changes. It seems like a cynical move to cancel all the post 2100 Sunday services particularly. Hopefully the FB groups I'm on for the Bradshaw and Illingworth areas see my post and make some noise to try and keep them!
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Post by Username on Jun 24, 2023 10:34:59 GMT 1
Does anyone know what the new summer coastliner timetable is? There are no signs of it coming on their website but Metro says it will commence 9th July and usually Transdev are quite fast to release service changes.
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Post by hstjohnny on Jun 24, 2023 12:59:43 GMT 1
Does anyone know what the new summer coastliner timetable is? There are no signs of it coming on their website but Metro says it will commence 9th July and usually Transdev are quite fast to release service changes. Likely still finalsing details. Coastliner/York are having major staffing shortages at the moment so not sure if they'll be able to provide any extra journeys
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Post by Bradford Traveller on Jun 24, 2023 15:48:51 GMT 1
Does anyone know what the new summer coastliner timetable is? There are no signs of it coming on their website but Metro says it will commence 9th July and usually Transdev are quite fast to release service changes. Can't really see it being much different from the current ("winter") timetable. Maybe a few duplicates added?
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Post by moorside on Jun 25, 2023 0:14:11 GMT 1
It looks like the changes to services 509 510 511 512 513 have been dropped. The latest version of the changes 'public-transport-changes-july-2023-14002.pdf' got updated quickly from 'public-transport-changes-july-2023-14001.pdf' www.wymetro.com/media/9630/public-transport-changes-july-2023-14002.pdfI've complained about the 521 changes. It seems like a cynical move to cancel all the post 2100 Sunday services particularly. Hopefully the FB groups I'm on for the Bradshaw and Illingworth areas see my post and make some noise to try and keep them! I would hope they have indeed been dropped, but on the Firstbus site it gives an upcoming timetable operative from 2nd July to 22nd July, so perhaps the changes on the Mixenden routes are coming in on the 23rd July rather than the 2nd? As regards the 521 changes, it's pretty amazing to think that communities like Heptonstall and Blackshaw Head have a later evening service than the Ovenden/Illingworth areas where you would think the demand would be much higher.
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Post by joshben on Jun 25, 2023 7:27:11 GMT 1
Does anyone know what the new summer coastliner timetable is? There are no signs of it coming on their website but Metro says it will commence 9th July and usually Transdev are quite fast to release service changes. Can't really see it being much different from the current ("winter") timetable. Maybe a few duplicates added? Last year's summer timetable was just an extra journey fast to Scarborough then Whitby. It then did a Whitby-Scarborough short and return. Before leaving York later on in the afternoon? One bus and one driver I'm pretty sure"
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Post by Username on Jun 25, 2023 15:47:58 GMT 1
It looks like the changes to services 509 510 511 512 513 have been dropped. The latest version of the changes 'public-transport-changes-july-2023-14002.pdf' got updated quickly from 'public-transport-changes-july-2023-14001.pdf' www.wymetro.com/media/9630/public-transport-changes-july-2023-14002.pdfI've complained about the 521 changes. It seems like a cynical move to cancel all the post 2100 Sunday services particularly. Hopefully the FB groups I'm on for the Bradshaw and Illingworth areas see my post and make some noise to try and keep them! I would hope they have indeed been dropped, but on the Firstbus site it gives an upcoming timetable operative from 2nd July to 22nd July, so perhaps the changes on the Mixenden routes are coming in on the 23rd July rather than the 2nd? As regards the 521 changes, it's pretty amazing to think that communities like Heptonstall and Blackshaw Head have a later evening service than the Ovenden/Illingworth areas where you would think the demand would be much higher. With Illingworth routes I think its to deal with vandalism.
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Post by Father Dougal McGuire on Jun 25, 2023 16:09:15 GMT 1
First bus from Huddersfield to Halifax not getting into Halifax while 0606 is awful, hopefully these changes will be short lived and come September a proper timetable will commence with the new proposed improved Halifax - Elland - Huddersfield services.
A bit counterintuitive to be pushing for using the bus and leaving the cars yet there is going to be a lot of services where people will have no choice but to use the car. Don't blame them either, whoever is doing these recent timetables should hang their head in shame.
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Post by JC on Jun 25, 2023 16:20:32 GMT 1
Is the vandalism on service 521 on the bus or at the bus as it passes certain places?
If it's the latter why not run something with a different number straight up Keighley Road either turning on a loop round Heathmoor Park Road (like the 523 does) or running a loop via Cow Hill Gate Lane to Causeway Foot (like the old 502 used to on its last run at night) then straight back into town on Keighley Road. It seems to be the estate roads where the problems are. At least that'd keep some sort of service going for the north of Halifax.
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Post by WYBS on Jun 25, 2023 18:12:47 GMT 1
First bus from Huddersfield to Halifax not getting into Halifax while 0606 is awful, hopefully these changes will be short lived and come September a proper timetable will commence with the new proposed improved Halifax - Elland - Huddersfield services. A bit counterintuitive to be pushing for using the bus and leaving the cars yet there is going to be a lot of services where people will have no choice but to use the car. Don't blame them either, whoever is doing these recent timetables should hang their head in shame. Out of interest, are all the timetables at First West Yorkshire created and changed by people sat in an office in Hunslet Park working 9-5 and using their car to get to work? I'm pretty sure the image in my head is pretty true to reality! I bet they would never dream of using the bus to get to work.
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Post by Father Dougal McGuire on Jun 25, 2023 20:30:34 GMT 1
First bus from Huddersfield to Halifax not getting into Halifax while 0606 is awful, hopefully these changes will be short lived and come September a proper timetable will commence with the new proposed improved Halifax - Elland - Huddersfield services. A bit counterintuitive to be pushing for using the bus and leaving the cars yet there is going to be a lot of services where people will have no choice but to use the car. Don't blame them either, whoever is doing these recent timetables should hang their head in shame. Out of interest, are all the timetables at First West Yorkshire created and changed by people sat in an office in Hunslet Park working 9-5 and using their car to get to work? I'm pretty sure the image in my head is pretty true to reality! I bet they would never dream of using the bus to get to work. I'm not mentioning any company in particular but something needs to be done, just what happens now is it is all put into a computer program with no real thought to the timings etc which is why you end up with absolute messes of timetables being produced.
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Post by SCH117X on Jun 25, 2023 22:09:21 GMT 1
I'm not mentioning any company in particular but something needs to be done, just what happens now is it is all put into a computer program with no real thought to the timings etc which is why you end up with absolute messes of timetables being produced. The current classis is outside the forums area - Castleton to Baslow is given by Google as 23 minutes by road so Hulleys of Baslow have timetabled an open top bus to do the journey with five intermediate timing points in 1 minute more. Plainly being dead local in a rural area makes no difference in unrealistic timetabling. Apparently the hourly service which could never have been achieved has been changed to a 90 min service but without seemingly any updated publicly available timetable being issued.
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Post by deerfold on Jun 25, 2023 22:20:48 GMT 1
I'm not mentioning any company in particular but something needs to be done, just what happens now is it is all put into a computer program with no real thought to the timings etc which is why you end up with absolute messes of timetables being produced. The current classis is outside the forums area - Castleton to Baslow is given by Google as 23 minutes by road so Hulleys of Baslow have timetabled an open top bus to do the journey with five intermediate timing points in 1 minute more. Plainly being dead local in a rural area makes no difference in unrealistic timetabling. Apparently the hourly service which could never have been achieved has been changed to a 90 min service but without seemingly any updated publicly available timetable being issued. There's a new realistic timetable, but it's not in effect yet. It's anyone's guess when it'll turn up at the moment.
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Post by mattb7tl on Jun 26, 2023 13:19:29 GMT 1
Now that non-enthusiasts have started to get ahold of the changes. They are fuming to say the very minimum. My new area didn’t seem to care about the cuts to the 180s, they were of course angered, but not enough to write to MPs, or any people or company with power. My old area, which consists of the 370s, isn’t taking the complaints lightly and whoever is overseeing complaints is going to have to read through mountains of angry emails. And good on them, I think most of us agree these cuts are strange. Has there ever been a time where cuts have been reversed due to complaints?
Edit: Forgot to mention, this is all happening on local groups on Facebook, not just talk within the community. People are writing complaint templates to send off to help people who don’t have time or struggle writing. A proper effort.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 26, 2023 13:55:05 GMT 1
Now that non-enthusiasts have started to get ahold of the changes. They are fuming to say the very minimum. My new area didn’t seem to care about the cuts to the 180s, they were of course angered, but not enough to write to MPs, or any people or company with power. My old area, which consists of the 370s, isn’t taking the complaints lightly and whoever is overseeing complaints is going to have to read through mountains of angry emails. And good on them, I think most of us agree these cuts are strange. Has there ever been a time where cuts have been reversed due to complaints? The only times i remember cuts being reversed due to complaints is if they included merging 2 routes into one (like the last time they withdrew the 323 & created a 325 what only served Martins Nest going towards Meltham,annoying both Meltham passengers & people living on the estate) or if Metro paid something towards the journeys. The Marsden corridor cuts on a evening probably wasn't seen as too bad as it only brought them to the same frequency as most of the Huddersfield network whilst for 370/1/2 they are losing a major chunk of their evening service. I Wonder if the solution (depending on WYCA finances) is to go back to evening circulars incorporating various routes like the did during the late 00s on a number of corridors, so in this case a circlar running from Huddersfield > Rawthorpe > Dalton > Waterloo > Almondbury > Huddersfield, not the best but better than nothing.
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Post by Username on Jun 27, 2023 16:12:55 GMT 1
Now that non-enthusiasts have started to get ahold of the changes. They are fuming to say the very minimum. My new area didn’t seem to care about the cuts to the 180s, they were of course angered, but not enough to write to MPs, or any people or company with power. My old area, which consists of the 370s, isn’t taking the complaints lightly and whoever is overseeing complaints is going to have to read through mountains of angry emails. And good on them, I think most of us agree these cuts are strange. Has there ever been a time where cuts have been reversed due to complaints? Edit: Forgot to mention, this is all happening on local groups on Facebook, not just talk within the community. People are writing complaint templates to send off to help people who don’t have time or struggle writing. A proper effort. A First bus rant group has now formed on facebook due to the high level of cuts customers have faced recently. I do think First are going a bit overboard on cuts. If it is money they need why not hold back on repaints for a while. Some silly vehicles have gone for a repaint such as 32511 or the batches of euro 3 vehicles in Halifax.
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Post by hstjohnny on Jun 27, 2023 19:20:31 GMT 1
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Post by deerfold on Jun 27, 2023 21:35:20 GMT 1
Looks like the extra capacity to/from Whitby they were talking about in February hasn't happened. Also odd that that update is dated a week ago, but wasn't there on Saturday.
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Post by Bradford Traveller on Jun 27, 2023 21:36:45 GMT 1
Does anyone know what the new summer coastliner timetable is? There are no signs of it coming on their website but Metro says it will commence 9th July and usually Transdev are quite fast to release service changes. Changes listed on their website. Doesn't give exact details, but mentions a slightly faster route out of Leeds on 840 & 843. 840, some journeys don't serve Flamingoland. No major changes to timetable. X43 runs an extra Malton–Leeds journey, forming a Leeds–Scarborough trip that terminates at Alpamare splash Park rather than continuing fast to Whitby.
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Post by SCH117X on Jun 27, 2023 21:49:20 GMT 1
Doesn't give exact details, but mentions a slightly faster route out of Leeds on 840 & 843. Limited stop out of Leeds but to see which stops are used reference is made to using the Transdev Go app, although the timetable is showing on the web page for 9 July with the X43 shown but set to all stops a timing at all stops out of Leeds is shown.
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Post by peteleeds on Jun 28, 2023 7:30:43 GMT 1
Doesn't give exact details, but mentions a slightly faster route out of Leeds on 840 & 843. Limited stop out of Leeds but to see which stops are used reference is made to using the Transdev Go app, although the timetable is showing on the web page for 9 July with the X43 shown but set to all stops a timing at all stops out of Leeds is shown. Could they be going like the x84 maybe. On journeys to leeds last pick up seacroft but will set down at any stop and on journeys out of leeds first drop off seacroft but will pick up at any stop. This would stop any short journeys within leeds.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 28, 2023 13:30:40 GMT 1
Limited stop out of Leeds but to see which stops are used reference is made to using the Transdev Go app, although the timetable is showing on the web page for 9 July with the X43 shown but set to all stops a timing at all stops out of Leeds is shown. Could they be going like the x84 maybe. On journeys to leeds last pick up seacroft but will set down at any stop and on journeys out of leeds first drop off seacroft but will pick up at any stop. This would stop any short journeys within leeds. I Hope not, as it's only Transdev that serve York Road between Melbourne roundabout & South Parkway at the bottom of Seacroft (the area i live) so it wouldn't be the best going from 4BPH pre-covid down to just the now hourly 7 (possibly the biggest frequency drop in the city?)
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Post by gledhill56 on Jun 28, 2023 15:47:55 GMT 1
Could they be going like the x84 maybe. On journeys to leeds last pick up seacroft but will set down at any stop and on journeys out of leeds first drop off seacroft but will pick up at any stop. This would stop any short journeys within leeds. I Hope not, as it's only Transdev that serve York Road between Melbourne roundabout & South Parkway at the bottom of Seacroft (the area i live) so it wouldn't be the best going from 4BPH pre-covid down to just the now hourly 7 (possibly the biggest frequency drop in the city?) Still a more frequent service than Marten Nest who go down to 2 evening buses daily with an additional hourly daytime service on Sundays only.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 28, 2023 16:32:47 GMT 1
I Hope not, as it's only Transdev that serve York Road between Melbourne roundabout & South Parkway at the bottom of Seacroft (the area i live) so it wouldn't be the best going from 4BPH pre-covid down to just the now hourly 7 (possibly the biggest frequency drop in the city?) Still a more frequent service than Marten Nest who go down to 2 evening buses daily with an additional hourly daytime service on Sundays only. They've still got the 354/355 M-Sat daytimes
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