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Post by northrob on Dec 10, 2015 18:54:40 GMT 1
This has appeared in the job opportunities page - no other information currently given... www.yorkbus.co.uk/about-us.jsp?aboutUsID=12"Our new kind of bus service needs an amazing team of people! We're about to introduce CityZap, a fast bus between York and Leeds with many new and exciting features. We want a special team to make the biggest and best impression on our customers. Do you like the sound of being part of a dedicated team of people to help drive this exciting new project forward and continue to grow our existing business at Fulford in York?" |
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Post by SCH117X on Dec 10, 2015 19:10:28 GMT 1
A use for some of the displaced Geminis from the 36?
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Post by clifton on Dec 10, 2015 21:27:37 GMT 1
Is this not going to just take passengers off the Coastliner services?
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Post by stevieinselby on Dec 10, 2015 22:20:48 GMT 1
Is this not going to just take passengers off the Coastliner services? It does seem a bit odd - I could understand there being a market for both express and local buses along the route (although Transdev did try that only a few years ago and quickly gave it up as a bad job), but the logical thing would be for Coastliner to be the express service, surely? Unless maybe their stats show that the people who are travelling between points-west-of-York and the coast are not time-sensitive but value a service from their local stop, and the people who are time-sensitive from Leeds are mostly not going any further than York. That's a plausible business model, IF that's what the advert means. |
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Post by Burnside on Dec 10, 2015 23:50:09 GMT 1
If it's gonna be non stop, what would be the fastest way?
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Post by hstjohnny on Dec 10, 2015 23:52:39 GMT 1
If it's gonna be non stop, what would be the fastest way? A64 to Hazlewood, M1 to A63 East Leeds Link Road into Leeds, should take around 30-40 mins without traffic |
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Post by stevieinselby on Dec 11, 2015 0:28:46 GMT 1
If it's gonna be non stop, what would be the fastest way? A64 to Hazlewood, M1 to A63 East Leeds Link Road into Leeds, should take around 30-40 mins without traffic Optimistic timing ... Google reckons it's 39 minutes by car from York Station to Leeds Bus Station via ELLR (although oddly it's "41 minutes without traffic"), so given that you wouldn't be able to go as fast in a bus I wouldn't expect even off-peak journeys to be under 50 minutes between those two points, 45 at the absolute minimum. The morning peak X44 takes just over 1h20 to do that route, although that does include running via Copmanthorpe, Tadcaster and Woodlands, so you could knock 15 minutes or so off by missing those out. So up to about 1h05 in the peaks and 0h50 off-peak seems reasonable, depending on the stopping pattern within York. That compares favourably with up to 1h30 in the peaks and 1h05 off-peak on the current Coastliner route. Google puts the route via ELLR as less than 5 minutes quicker than sticking on A64 ... I don't know how the two compare at peak times as to whether there are greater savings to be made then ... and obviously the non-stop running will save a chunk of time as well. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 11, 2015 0:54:55 GMT 1
Coastliner drops to Every Half Hour Leeds - Malton,CityZap Runs Half Hourly recreating the 15 Minute frequency between Leeds & York?
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Post by SCH117X on Dec 12, 2015 21:27:46 GMT 1
Five from 3601-3612 are confirmed in the latest WYIS fleetlist as working this service.
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Post by westyorkshirebus on Dec 12, 2015 23:20:36 GMT 1
A64 to Hazlewood, M1 to A63 East Leeds Link Road into Leeds, should take around 30-40 mins without traffic Optimistic timing ... Google reckons it's 39 minutes by car from York Station to Leeds Bus Station via ELLR (although oddly it's "41 minutes without traffic"), so given that you wouldn't be able to go as fast in a bus I wouldn't expect even off-peak journeys to be under 50 minutes between those two points, 45 at the absolute minimum. The morning peak X44 takes just over 1h20 to do that route, although that does include running via Copmanthorpe, Tadcaster and Woodlands, so you could knock 15 minutes or so off by missing those out. So up to about 1h05 in the peaks and 0h50 off-peak seems reasonable, depending on the stopping pattern within York. That compares favourably with up to 1h30 in the peaks and 1h05 off-peak on the current Coastliner route. Google puts the route via ELLR as less than 5 minutes quicker than sticking on A64 ... I don't know how the two compare at peak times as to whether there are greater savings to be made then ... and obviously the non-stop running will save a chunk of time as well. If it is literally going to be non stop, it could go either way depending on traffic. Using the ELLR would give the impression of a faster service though. Also I expect it would probably run to Stonebow so you'd have to add more minutes on for that. I assume it will start in the early Spring, with decisions on the future of the Coastliner timetable being taken before the summer timetable starts? If they were to redistribute the resources at Malton by reducing to half hourly to Leeds, a full hourly service to Scarborough with no gaps, a hourly service to Whitby in the summer and maybe even more buses to Bridlington, would be a good way to attempt to grow the market. |
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Post by chrisboy96 on Dec 17, 2015 7:46:27 GMT 1
Speaking to Transdev and the plan is for pick ups in Leeds/York then non-stop to the other end. Drivers will be able to choose the quickest route dependent on traffic conditions.
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Post by Steve Macz403 on Dec 20, 2015 16:45:25 GMT 1
Speaking to Transdev and the plan is for pick ups in Leeds/York then non-stop to the other end. Drivers will be able to choose the quickest route dependent on traffic conditions. the East Leeds Link Road would work out quicker regardless. Plus the coaches (Nat Ex and Megabus) use this road to access the North from Leeds. Google maps points it out as being faster, |
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Post by sharksmith on Dec 21, 2015 9:52:27 GMT 1
A sneaky peek at the Cityzap livery from Alex Hornby's Twitter feed? /photo/1 |
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Post by SF07 on Jan 1, 2016 17:15:51 GMT 1
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Post by timelesstable on Jan 1, 2016 19:24:40 GMT 1
Won't be Zapping through Tadcaster given what happened to that bridge. |
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Post by SCH117X on Jan 1, 2016 19:28:34 GMT 1
Won't be Zapping through Tadcaster given what happened to that bridge. Does not serve Taddy anyway. |
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Post by WYBS on Jan 3, 2016 12:55:48 GMT 1
twitter.com/cityzapbus Why do they seem to be advertising it as though they'll be using Streetdecks? I thought they were using ex-36s?
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Post by kendall17 on Jan 3, 2016 18:36:13 GMT 1
twitter.com/cityzapbus Why do they seem to be advertising it as though they'll be using Streetdecks? I thought they were using ex-36s? Will anyone notice/care? First advertised some services in Leeds using E400s well before they were ordered for commonwealth games. |
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Post by A1YBG on Jan 24, 2016 21:34:10 GMT 1
Tweet from transdev this evening.
York and Leeds get closer. Get ready to zap from Easter Sunday. #Leeds #York #Cityzap
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Post by 576 Gemini 2 on Jan 24, 2016 21:47:18 GMT 1
twitter.com/cityzapbus Why do they seem to be advertising it as though they'll be using Streetdecks? I thought they were using ex-36s? Will anyone notice/care? First advertised some services in Leeds using E400s well before they were ordered for commonwealth games. Advertised the 617/618, 620/621 routes with E200s & E400s in Bradford as well at the same time and the only new buses we had since then have been Streetlites & Eclipse 2 B7RLEs |
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Post by westyorkshirebus on Jan 24, 2016 23:41:01 GMT 1
twitter.com/cityzapbus Why do they seem to be advertising it as though they'll be using Streetdecks? I thought they were using ex-36s? Will anyone notice/care? First advertised some services in Leeds using E400s well before they were ordered for commonwealth games. Same sort of thing happened recently with Go North East. The drawing of a bus in the publicity for the new 'Northern' branded route used a Gemini. Some thought this meant Gemini's were going to be used on the route. In reality it is because they have a Gemini picture on file, but the Scania deckers continue to operate the service as usual. Easter Sunday is 27th March this year by the way |
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Post by A1YBG on Jan 25, 2016 13:34:18 GMT 1
First also do this advertise new buses and changing times with enviro200s which West Yorkshire don't even have. Probably what they had to use when designing the livery for Cityzip.
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Post by SCH117X on Jan 25, 2016 23:26:14 GMT 1
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Post by gooderson1 on Jan 25, 2016 23:46:17 GMT 1
What is it that makes you think that this vehicle is for the Cityzap service. It could be parked for any reason.
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Post by WYBS on Jan 26, 2016 1:47:26 GMT 1
What is it that makes you think that this vehicle is for the Cityzap service. It could be parked for any reason. I think all the pieces are starting to fall into place, that photo pretty much confirms it 100% Next we'll hopefully see Gemini's at Keighley. |
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