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Post by Burnside on Apr 9, 2010 13:59:39 GMT 1
And where will it call at the Airport?
This is becoming a complete farce.
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Post by Jack on Apr 9, 2010 14:19:12 GMT 1
Stand 1 according to the timetable. Mind you, the standing time at either end of the route is ten minutes top.
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Post by Burnside on Apr 9, 2010 16:22:21 GMT 1
Thought First weren't getting in at the Airport?
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Post by Burnside on Apr 9, 2010 16:33:02 GMT 1
Just seen the 'new' timetable for the X84.
Apart from the 07:02 journey from Leeds on Weekday mornings terminating at Bramhope instead of Otley, is there any difference?
Also, waht is the point of an 08:40 Otley to Ilkley, when the 07:55 Leeds to Skipton runs at the same time?
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Post by Jack on Apr 9, 2010 16:34:03 GMT 1
I would guess then that the airport has been made to allow First access then.
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Post by fwybuses on Apr 9, 2010 17:29:44 GMT 1
Also, waht is the point of an 08:40 Otley to Ilkley I figured this out a few weeks back. There are two B9TL that are allocated to the L08 and X84 (to prince henrys) weekdays. Them two go onto the 0840 which turns into a return to leeds, and another from otley to leeds.
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Post by westyorkshirebus on Apr 9, 2010 18:47:45 GMT 1
I wonder what vehicles First will use on the 757. Moving the luggage racks out of the current vehicles and into the leather seated single decks that currently hang around on service 28 would be my suggestion.
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Post by Matty on Apr 9, 2010 19:03:13 GMT 1
They might buy some brand new Eclipse 2's with luggage racks already fitted.
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Post by westyorkshirebus on Apr 9, 2010 20:51:20 GMT 1
Going by what is on Metro's website, It looks like First will be running 7 minutes in front of Centrebus, with First departing LBA at 18 & 48 and Centrebus at 25 & 55
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Post by Matty on Apr 9, 2010 21:21:37 GMT 1
I don't think that is fair at all!
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Post by malli on Apr 9, 2010 21:42:42 GMT 1
try working in barnsley stagecoach run 3 yes 3 minutes in front of tates on route14
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Post by northerner on Apr 9, 2010 22:26:33 GMT 1
I wonder what vehicles First will use on the 757. Moving the luggage racks out of the current vehicles and into the leather seated single decks that currently hang around on service 28 would be my suggestion. Will First not keep the current allocated Airport buses on the 757? It seems like a result for common sense though, letting First and Centrebus compete with each other
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Post by fwybuses on Apr 9, 2010 22:50:28 GMT 1
I don't think that is fair at all! I do. Lets say i am a tourist. I have a choice between a scratty looking Volvo B7RLE and a nice looking Scania i know which i would go for.
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Post by Matty on Apr 9, 2010 22:59:33 GMT 1
Yes but an everyday passenger of a bus (Tourist or no tourist) doesn't look at it at all, they just get on whatever one comes first & Centrebus wouldn't have arrived by the time First has been & gone. The Scania's are 03 reg so if First put the Leather seated Eclipse's on the route, I know what I would get on if I wasn't a bus enthusiast.
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Post by fwybuses on Apr 9, 2010 23:02:24 GMT 1
Yes but an everyday passenger of a bus (Tourist or no tourist) doesn't look at it at all, they just get on whatever one comes first & Centrebus wouldn't have arrived by the time First has been & gone. The Scania's are 03 reg so if First put the Leather seated Eclipse's on the route, I know what I would get on if I wasn't a bus enthusiast. Okay, then lets put it this way. Which one are the airport going to advertise? Centrebus. Which one are they going to sell to everyone the most? Centrebus. So all in all, its Centerbus who will win, just hoping the figures for first fail, and this blows epically back up in there faces. God knows what they are going to be like when the QC'S come round.
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Post by glennh2 on Apr 9, 2010 23:13:12 GMT 1
There's no sign of the Centrebus timetable online yet
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Post by westyorkshirebus on Apr 9, 2010 23:55:49 GMT 1
Yes but an everyday passenger of a bus (Tourist or no tourist) doesn't look at it at all, they just get on whatever one comes first & Centrebus wouldn't have arrived by the time First has been & gone. The Scania's are 03 reg so if First put the Leather seated Eclipse's on the route, I know what I would get on if I wasn't a bus enthusiast. Okay, then lets put it this way. Which one are the airport going to advertise? Centrebus. Which one are they going to sell to everyone the most? Centrebus. So all in all, its Centerbus who will win, just hoping the figures for first fail, and this blows epically back up in there faces. God knows what they are going to be like when the QC'S come round. Regardless of any advertising, if passengers walk out of the airport/rail station and the First one is parked there, they will assume it is the only service and get on that one. Passengers on Kirkstall Road, Horsforth etc will get on the First service due to the usage of FirstWeek's etc.
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Post by Jack on Apr 10, 2010 11:35:01 GMT 1
As the Metro website says there's a six minute connection period between the 967 and the Centrebus 757. Looking from the timetable, this will mean it leaves at 25 and 55 minutes past the hour. Whilst First's leaves at 18 and 48 minutes past the hour.
To Centrebus' advantage, they could have a supervisor at the Airport to assist passengers towards their services.
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Post by squeaky on Apr 10, 2010 11:51:06 GMT 1
It depends, like with the taxis, whether First will be allowed to access the airport forecourt or not
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Post by SF07 on Apr 10, 2010 11:51:14 GMT 1
As the Metro website says there's a six minute connection period between the 967 and the Centrebus 757. Looking from the timetable, this will mean it leaves at 25 and 55 minutes past the hour. Whilst First's leaves at 18 and 48 minutes past the hour. To Centrebus' advantage, they could have a supervisor at the Airport to assist passengers towards their services. And if the 6 minute connection is available the other round (757 onto 967), First will arrive 5 minutes in front of Centrebus. (First: xx10 and xx40; Centrebus: xx15 and xx45)
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Post by dwarfer1979 on Apr 12, 2010 8:27:08 GMT 1
My understanding is that First will have to change their timetable as they do not have access to the private roads at the airport, I believe they registered the commercial service they intended to operate before the issue over who would get access to the airport was finalised.
The timetable for the 757 won't have gone up yet as the Centrebus registration for this service wasn't finally agreed until Friday mid-afternoon so the publicity won't be ready yet.
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Post by Matty on Apr 12, 2010 18:20:21 GMT 1
Where will the First 757 drop off & pick up then?
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Post by www.buseireann.ie on Apr 13, 2010 10:41:10 GMT 1
Both 757 timetables are now up and guess what folks, yes First are running 5 mins in front of Centrebus towards the Airport and 8 mins in front from the Airport. HOWEVER, First have decided that a consistent timetable isn't achieveable and so peak time trips start to operate at all sorts of different times (First will have to take lessons from Centrebus on how to maintain a consistent timetable, I'm sure it can be done as Centrebus have every faith in their timetable otherwise what would be the point in designing such a consistent timetable), also (and about time too!!!!) their is a half hourly service on Sunday (do bear in mind folks that the Sunday daytime service is probably the busiest time of the week, so why haven't First operated extra journeys and ran the sunday service commercially!).
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Post by angrycommuter on Apr 13, 2010 12:28:16 GMT 1
I don't think that First are particularly bothered about airport passengers. They will want to secure the custom from Yeadon through to Leeds where they hold a virtual monopoly. It is also a two fingered salute to Metro and the airport for daring to award another company a contract to operate the services.
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Post by glennh2 on Apr 13, 2010 15:25:57 GMT 1
First are however not operating in to the bus station in either direction
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