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Post by SCH117X on Apr 18, 2010 21:06:58 GMT 1
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Post by kendall17 on Apr 19, 2010 0:46:37 GMT 1
I think it looks good the 767 branding. Just a shame no planes will be taking off in the near future! Edit: The 2,000 is up. Got my bat in the air!
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Post by Jack on Apr 19, 2010 13:31:26 GMT 1
Are Centrebus to adopt this livery for the Scanias being used on the Airport services?
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Post by glennh2 on Apr 19, 2010 15:31:30 GMT 1
The timetable is back up and doesnt appear to have changed
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Post by westyorkshirebus on Apr 19, 2010 17:37:53 GMT 1
First are now shown as operating to/from the Airport again rather than terminating on Whitehouse Lane.
Not sure what I think of that livery, seems to be a bit busy.
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Post by SCH117X on Apr 19, 2010 19:24:05 GMT 1
Looks like First and Huddscentrebus are operating at the same times which is completely barking - the last thing Headingley and Yeadon needs is a bus war. This has to be one to the bow of Metro wanting to control all WY services and the only logical outcome is a 15 min interval joint service.
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Post by Craig on Apr 19, 2010 20:03:49 GMT 1
That Dales & District branding isn't particularly attractive and looks like everything was stuck on a bit haphazardly. Plus I'm not sure that a nosediving plane is the best image of the aviation industry to be portrayed, surely this could have been in taking off position which is a more visually comforting image for prospective passengers!
As far as First's operation of the 757 is concerned I don't personally see any problem. First would otherwise lose a profitable route so have every right to protect that. Why should they move over to let Centrebus take it away? If the roles were reversed and a smaller operator defended their route against a big operator would the reaction to this be the same? It's saving the taxpayer's bill for daytime services which are commercially viable and it's simply an example of competition which is meant to exist within the industry anyway.
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Post by SCH117X on Apr 19, 2010 20:52:24 GMT 1
Is not the 757 a tendered service (previously worked by Aztecbird) and its only because Centrebus commercially registered it that First have been able to do so. If it is profitable then should it have been subject to tendering anyway.
Whatever the downside of the D&D branding at least its bright which is a dam sight more than can be said for the awful Transdev Harrogate livery which at the best looks dull and mucky. Roll on Veolia red (and I didn't think I would be wanting that a few weeks ago)
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Post by Jack on Apr 19, 2010 21:07:33 GMT 1
Roll on Veolia red (and I didn't think I would be wanting that a few weeks ago) At least with the York fleet there won't be a problem with repaints
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Post by driver6540 on Apr 19, 2010 23:06:07 GMT 1
I think it looks good the 767 branding. Just a shame no planes will be taking off in the near future! Edit: The 2,000 is up. Got my bat in the air! Congratulations on your 2000th post.
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Post by dwarfer1979 on Apr 20, 2010 8:36:15 GMT 1
Is not the 757 a tendered service (previously worked by Aztecbird) and its only because Centrebus commercially registered it that First have been able to do so. If it is profitable then should it have been subject to tendering anyway. There is nothing to stop an operator registering a tendered service as commercial at any point, so the fact that Centrebus said they would do it commercially did not allow First to operate in competition. In fact it forced First to operate it commercially if they wished to operate thus saving Metro money. First appeared to be content to run it with subsidy even though it appears they didn't need it as long as they could keep the route.
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Post by SCH117X on Apr 20, 2010 18:14:18 GMT 1
But the subsidy would have gone to Centrebus not First as Centrebus won the new contract. Consequently its Centrebus not First that are savng Metros pennies
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Post by humberside on Apr 21, 2010 12:50:41 GMT 1
Its whoever decided to operate commercially first that are saving Metro the money
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Post by guyarab on Apr 24, 2010 10:16:48 GMT 1
Arriva just cannot seem to get things right. In the 205 timetable it shows Chindwell Lane, but this does not exist. It should read Chidswell Lane. It shows it going this way on the return to Dewsbury only when it actually traverses it in both directions.
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Post by Craig on Apr 24, 2010 16:13:37 GMT 1
Whilst we're on the topic of operators making mistakes, has anyone else seen the new Leeds Overground map and the way they've stuck on yet another route without any thought. The new 5 takes an oddly circuitous route to Old Farnley with no indication of which roads it actually passes along and then apparently it takes on the 42 route through Wortley. Plus there is no mention that this part of the route isn't high frequency.
A shame they couldn't also include the 72 but there definitely wouldn't be space for that without redrawing the map and making the Pudsey routes look like they actually meet each other in the town centre.
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Post by SF07 on Apr 24, 2010 20:01:38 GMT 1
Would have made sense to have included the 72, given it'll be a 10 minute service, had it been possible to fit it in.
With the 5, why don't they just dot the line between Old Farnley and Leeds? It's what First Manchester do on their Overground map for parts of route that run under every 15 minutes.
There still isn't a Overground map for Calderdale and Huddersfield on the website, which has been missing since the January changes, when they took the Overground and Network maps off due to First losing routes to Centrebus.
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Post by westyorkshirebus on Apr 24, 2010 20:09:09 GMT 1
The Leeds map does need redrawing, but that probably costs more money.
Note also that the 508 will no longer be the red line and is therefore no longer part of the Overground. Although not on the website, an updated map features in the latest 521 & 577 leaflets.
The Huddersfield map features the 327 Blue Line even though it only runs every 30 mins. I suppose with the cost cutting recently, they'd struggle to find enough every 10-20 minutes services to form a network.
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Post by Matty on Apr 24, 2010 20:16:30 GMT 1
Plus the 508 is now a Non Buggy Freindly/Wheelchair accessible route, so expect to see a lot of Royale's etc. on the route.
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Post by westyorkshirebus on Apr 24, 2010 22:03:00 GMT 1
Plus the 508 is now a Non Buggy Freindly/Wheelchair accessible route, so expect to see a lot of Royale's etc. on the route. Where does it say that? I doubt the allocation will change.
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Post by Matty on Apr 24, 2010 22:25:01 GMT 1
On the timetable, it doesn't say Buggy Friendly on the front page as it used to.
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Post by westyorkshirebus on Apr 25, 2010 0:40:37 GMT 1
None of the grey timetables have that though.
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Post by gledhill56 on Apr 25, 2010 8:51:33 GMT 1
Not stating it on the timetable does give a little bit of freedom in allocation, but just becuase a timetable has changed style and no longer shows that the service is buggy friendly doesn't mean it won't be.
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Post by SF07 on Apr 25, 2010 18:40:43 GMT 1
New maps (the one that are usually included within the paper timetables) are available on the Metro website under the timetable section. The 5 and 72 gain route maps, and as it is now a grey timetable, as said above, the 508 loses its map.
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Post by 77syk7 on Apr 26, 2010 20:34:22 GMT 1
Tried out the revised 508 route this morning peak - a lengthy affair around Farsley and then a continuous queue down Kirkstall Rd into Leeds - by the time the bus reached the Bus Station - I would estimate that the bus would have been 10 mins late. So the passengers this morning had to contend with increased fares, a revised route and then new times shifted 5 or 10 minutes in each direction - a really calm stress free start to the working week! However, I was impressed to note Centrebus No 906 on the 757 Airport route which looked really smart and stood out from the crowd.
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Post by fwybuses on Apr 26, 2010 21:14:52 GMT 1
Tried out the revised 508 route this morning peak - a lengthy affair around Farsley and then a continuous queue down Kirkstall Rd into Leeds - by the time the bus reached the Bus Station - I would estimate that the bus would have been 10 mins late. Not Suprised. To be hosnet, i think they should make the 508 like the X84, drop off down staningley road, pick up only back on the way up. Cover the old 15/508 with an extended 85/87 through to Pudsey Bus Station going over the old 15 route part.
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