SF07
Forum Member
Posts: 3,216
|
Post by SF07 on Aug 1, 2022 16:04:58 GMT 1
PB0001748/152 Registered
KEIGHLEY & DISTRICT TRAVEL LTD
Route: Skipton Bus Station to Ilkley Bus Station
Service number: 64
Service type: Normal Stopping
Effective date: 04 Sep 2022
Vary route and timetable
PB0001748/13 Registered
KEIGHLEY & DISTRICT TRAVEL LTD
Route: Keighley Bus Station to Leeds City Bus Station
Service number: 60
Service type: Normal Stopping
Effective date: 04 Sep 2022
Vary timetable
PB0003052/17 Registered
GLOBE HOLIDAYS LTD
Route: Barnsley Interchange to Wakefield Bus Station
Service number: 94 (96, 97, 96C, 96B, 96A)
Service type: Normal Stopping
Effective date: 04 Sep 2022
Vary timetable .
PB0001873/96 Cancelled
YORKSHIRE COASTLINER LTD
Route: Scarborough to Whitby
Service number: X43
Service type: Limited Stop
Effective date: 04 Sep 2022
Cancellation
PB2044957/34 Registered
TEAM PENNINE LIMITED
Route: Huddersfield Bus Station to Kirkheaton
Service number: 262
Service type: Normal Stopping
Effective date: 04 Sep 2022
Timetable change
|
|
|
|
Post by Burnside on Aug 1, 2022 17:10:27 GMT 1
Hmmm.
I wonder what the route change to the 64 is?
The switch back to getting in and out of Skipton via The Bailey means they can put double deckers on it, so can't imagine it being anything at that end.
Only thing I can think of would be the journeys to and from Otley using Leeds Road instead of Valley Drive in Ilkley maybe?
|
|
|
|
Post by northerner on Aug 1, 2022 21:15:27 GMT 1
Hmmm. I wonder what the route change to the 64 is? The switch back to getting in and out of Skipton via The Bailey means they can put double deckers on it, so can't imagine it being anything at that end. Only thing I can think of would be the journeys to and from Otley using Leeds Road instead of Valley Drive in Ilkley maybe? Could it be the section between Ilkley and Otley is withdrawn? Or rerouting in Ilkley to use Victoria Avenue and Grove Road? I'm hopeful the 60 changes will reflect the works at Greengates now being completed and will also remove some of the excess time between Rodley and Leeds in the peaks. |
|
Username
Forum Member
I need to get my eyes checked, I've just seen a Streetlite and my eyes are burning
Posts: 1,012
|
Post by Username on Aug 1, 2022 22:02:29 GMT 1
A few tweeks to the 262 or perhaps a frequency boost?
|
|
mattb7tl
Forum Member
Streetlites 🛐
Posts: 743
|
Post by mattb7tl on Aug 1, 2022 23:54:44 GMT 1
A few tweeks to the 262 or perhaps a frequency boost? I don't think the route has grown enough for a frequency increase just yet!  I'm guessing that there would most likely be more evening journeys, maybe up until 8-9pm? I've noticed that when service changes are posted that there's a vary timetable and a timetable change, is there any actual differences between those two changes? |
|
|
|
Post by leeds rider on Aug 2, 2022 8:11:25 GMT 1
I've noticed that when service changes are posted that there's a vary timetable and a timetable change, is there any actual differences between those two changes? No, don't think so - it's just how the operator has chosen to word that particular variation application (or, probably more accurately, the individual member of staff submitting the application). I've even seen differences such as "vary timetable" and "timetable variation" in the same batch of applications for very similar changes. |
|
|
|
Post by Burnside on Aug 2, 2022 14:37:47 GMT 1
Hmmm. I wonder what the route change to the 64 is? The switch back to getting in and out of Skipton via The Bailey means they can put double deckers on it, so can't imagine it being anything at that end. Only thing I can think of would be the journeys to and from Otley using Leeds Road instead of Valley Drive in Ilkley maybe? Could it be the section between Ilkley and Otley is withdrawn? Or rerouting in Ilkley to use Victoria Avenue and Grove Road? I'm hopeful the 60 changes will reflect the works at Greengates now being completed and will also remove some of the excess time between Rodley and Leeds in the peaks. I can't imagine the 64 running via Grove Road, it'd either then have to head along The Grove which is a pain in a Solo, let alone a B7RLE or even a B7TL. |
|
|
|
Post by deerfold on Aug 2, 2022 15:05:42 GMT 1
Or rerouting in Ilkley to use Victoria Avenue and Grove Road? Why would it do that? Is the 962 particularly busy round there? |
|
SF07
Forum Member
Posts: 3,216
|
Post by SF07 on Aug 4, 2022 20:32:50 GMT 1
|
|
|
|
Post by sharksmith on Aug 4, 2022 22:21:28 GMT 1
The 3.58 Greengates to Leeds service came off a Salts school service so assume this will mean no more Aireline buses running through Wrose of an afternoon.
|
|
|
|
Post by SCH117X on Aug 5, 2022 20:32:30 GMT 1
The statement re Airline of Monday to Friday "The 9.45am and 10.15am journeys and onwards will instead leave at 10 past the hour and 40 past the hour" is not exactly clear as someone could read that as 9.10 (or 10.10) and 10.40 when presumably is 9.40 and 10.10.
|
|
|
|
Post by deerfold on Aug 5, 2022 20:35:09 GMT 1
The statement re Airline of Monday to Friday "The 9.45am and 10.15am journeys and onwards will instead leave at 10 past the hour and 40 past the hour" is not exactly clear as someone could read that as 9.10 (or 10.10) and 10.40 when presumably is 9.40 and 10.10. And 1040, and 1110 and... just like they used to before they started using the bypass. |
|
joseph
Forum Member
Posts: 1,139
|
Post by joseph on Aug 7, 2022 19:40:59 GMT 1
An upcoming timetable has appeared for the 51 and 52 with further cuts to evening services. For what I can see, the last journey from Moor Allerton to Leeds is withdrawn, and a mid evening journey from Morley to Moortown is curtailed in Leeds.
|
|
|
|
Post by Father Dougal McGuire on Aug 8, 2022 7:24:27 GMT 1
I've noticed that when service changes are posted that there's a vary timetable and a timetable change, is there any actual differences between those two changes? No, don't think so - it's just how the operator has chosen to word that particular variation application (or, probably more accurately, the individual member of staff submitting the application). I've even seen differences such as "vary timetable" and "timetable variation" in the same batch of applications for very similar changes. Not even that... it's on the TC's end of what is put on. There's ones I've done such as a timetable change and when they've published it will say "vary timetable" or something along those lines different to what I put. |
|
SF07
Forum Member
Posts: 3,216
|
Post by SF07 on Aug 8, 2022 17:12:18 GMT 1
|
|
|
|
Post by Bradford Traveller on Aug 8, 2022 17:49:17 GMT 1
The new timetable is already in force from 24 July. There was no change at the Keighley end, but times were altered at the Halifax end to allow extended journey times and improve punctuality. |
|
|
|
Post by Bradford Traveller on Aug 9, 2022 23:18:21 GMT 1
M4 Burnley –Colne –Keighley
From 4 September the Sunday daytime service will be increased to hourly, from Burnley at 38 past the hour, returning from Keighley at 09 past the hour.
M3 & M5 will also run hourly on Sunday daytime.
|
|
|
|
Post by deerfold on Aug 10, 2022 15:14:04 GMT 1
M4 Burnley –Colne –Keighley From 4 September the Sunday daytime service will be increased to hourly, from Burnley at 38 past the hour, returning from Keighley at 09 past the hour. M3 & M5 will also run hourly on Sunday daytime. Glad this is increasing, but a shame it'll be only a minute away from the 62 rather than providing a more meaningful 3bph Keighley to Steeton. Will also be within 5 minutes of the 66 all the way from Crosshill to Keighley - having a half hourly link between there and Keighley would be much better for a lot of passngers. Where did you see the timetable? On their website, their link goes to the 262 Kirkheaton timetable. |
|
Tom
Forum Member
Posts: 58
|
Post by Tom on Aug 10, 2022 16:22:53 GMT 1
M4 Burnley –Colne –Keighley From 4 September the Sunday daytime service will be increased to hourly, from Burnley at 38 past the hour, returning from Keighley at 09 past the hour. M3 & M5 will also run hourly on Sunday daytime. Glad this is increasing, but a shame it'll be only a minute away from the 62 rather than providing a more meaningful 3bph Keighley to Steeton. Will also be within 5 minutes of the 66 all the way from Crosshill to Keighley - having a half hourly link between there and Keighley would be much better for a lot of passngers. Where did you see the timetable? On their website, their link goes to the 262 Kirkheaton timetable. Only way they could achieve that is retime the 62 and 66 as the M3/M4/M5 work together to give every 20 mins between Burnley, Nelson and Colne. 62 would involve retiming the 64 as some of them interwork. |
|
Tom
Forum Member
Posts: 58
|
Post by Tom on Aug 10, 2022 16:23:41 GMT 1
Glad this is increasing, but a shame it'll be only a minute away from the 62 rather than providing a more meaningful 3bph Keighley to Steeton. Will also be within 5 minutes of the 66 all the way from Crosshill to Keighley - having a half hourly link between there and Keighley would be much better for a lot of passngers. Where did you see the timetable? On their website, their link goes to the 262 Kirkheaton timetable. Only way they could achieve that is retime the 62 and 66 as the M3/M4/M5 work together to give every 20 mins between Burnley, Nelson and Colne. 62 would involve retiming the 64 as some of them interwork. As for the timetable, yes it does but if you click the M3/M4/M5 heading it takes you to the new timetable. |
|
|
|
Post by deerfold on Aug 10, 2022 16:38:22 GMT 1
Glad this is increasing, but a shame it'll be only a minute away from the 62 rather than providing a more meaningful 3bph Keighley to Steeton. Will also be within 5 minutes of the 66 all the way from Crosshill to Keighley - having a half hourly link between there and Keighley would be much better for a lot of passngers. Where did you see the timetable? On their website, their link goes to the 262 Kirkheaton timetable. Only way they could achieve that is retime the 62 and 66 as the M3/M4/M5 work together to give every 20 mins between Burnley, Nelson and Colne. 62 would involve retiming the 64 as some of them interwork. Or by just retiming the M3/M4/M5. And the 64 doesn't run on a Sunday, so doesn't need altering. |
|
|
|
Post by sharksmith on Aug 11, 2022 8:16:52 GMT 1
Interesting story in the T&A this week regarding Santander's ongoing problems with their building in Bradford. This has resulted in them now providing an hourly courtesy bus for Bradford customers to enable them to access their Shipley branch.
I assume as a free courtesy bus, limited to Santander account holders, it will be able to side step some of the usual legislation. On the other hand I would expect this 'bus' to be fully accessible to avoid PR problems and also would assume the driver will have to be appropriately licensed.
I guess some sort of minibus will be used but if you are a Santander account holder you will have a weekday hourly express service between Shipley & Bradford between 9.30 & 13.30 from 22 August, and the best bit is it's free!
|
|
|
|
Post by Bradford Traveller on Aug 11, 2022 12:10:52 GMT 1
Glad this is increasing, but a shame it'll be only a minute away from the 62 rather than providing a more meaningful 3bph Keighley to Steeton. Will also be within 5 minutes of the 66 all the way from Crosshill to Keighley - having a half hourly link between there and Keighley would be much better for a lot of passngers. Where did you see the timetable? On their website, their link goes to the 262 Kirkheaton timetable. Only way they could achieve that is retime the 62 and 66 as the M3/M4/M5 work together to give every 20 mins between Burnley, Nelson and Colne. 62 would involve retiming the 64 as some of them interwork. The 62 times are generally linked-in with Railway departures and arrivals at Ilkley to/from Leeds. |
|
joseph
Forum Member
Posts: 1,139
|
Post by joseph on Aug 17, 2022 6:08:12 GMT 1
I can see publicity for changes being delayed as they try and sort out CT Plus contracts
|
|
joseph
Forum Member
Posts: 1,139
|
Post by joseph on Aug 21, 2022 8:00:16 GMT 1
No sign so far anywhere that those CT plus services are going to be covered by any operator, if an operator isn't interested when they first came up then I doubt they will be now so I bet these are all withdrawn.
|
|
