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Post by joseph on Aug 24, 2022 21:07:47 GMT 1
First Leeds cuts: The 65 will see yet more cuts with a 2 hour gap AM to Leeds and PM from Leeds plus last bus from Gildersome and first from Leeds axed. 75 also sees an AM journey from Leeds axed. 14 looks to see an AM journey cut to start from Bramley with an AM from Logic fully axed. 86 sees an AM peak working from Middleton axed from Armley to Bramley.
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Post by Username on Aug 24, 2022 21:09:56 GMT 1
Possibly because First pay drivers a decent living wage with progression onto higher rates , ask your Team Pennine friends about that !!! I'm lost. How does that relate to my post? How does your comment relate to my post. Also I do tend to criticise Transdev just not as often. Remember the Transdev capacity issue thread I made?
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Post by Username on Aug 24, 2022 21:11:18 GMT 1
Some interesting turn of events: From September changes the 579 will have a timetable change so this might have gone from once every 10 minutes to every 30 minutes. Temporary changes to 521/522/523 due to driver shortages, knowing First this won't be temporary. As well as this the 372 will receive a revised frequency. There will also be several changes to services with First Leeds Leeds, there are a lot so someone else can talk about them on here. The new 579 timetable is on the Metro site. It's still every 20 minutes. The frequency of the 372 isn't changing either. The changes to the 521/2/3 are also very minor. I was going off what it said on bustimes. I did not know Metro released it yet.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 24, 2022 21:31:48 GMT 1
Some interesting turn of events: From September changes the 579 will have a timetable change so this might have gone from once every 10 minutes to every 30 minutes. Temporary changes to 521/522/523 due to driver shortages, knowing First this won't be temporary. As well as this the 372 will receive a revised frequency. There will also be several changes to services with First Leeds Leeds, there are a lot so someone else can talk about them on here. Hopefully the masses of cuts that were due to happen have been put off due to the bus grants being extended. If not then I think I'd really start to question where the money is going. Might not be a popular opinion but i think it might be better for them to do the cuts now,rather than kicking the can down the road for another 6 months & get a repeat of the same headlines then,unless the government decide on a more long term funding plan it will just turn into a repeat of the various funding extensions that London got &a are now in a major financial mess with TFL having to use it's own reserves what won't last long term. cutbacks would hopefully mean there would be enough drivers to run a more stable network of what remains & hopefully a more reliable network would see passenger numbers increase,meaning some of the cuts could be reversed at a later date when the passengers & drivers are there. Your always quick to slate First at every opportunity, as it happens there are only minor timetable changes, funny though how Transdev never come in for the same scrutiny ? Because Transdev have been relentless in trying reclaim custom since covid. They don't just give in. First will give in at the very 'First' opportunity. Is this the same Transdev that's also made their own cutbacks to routes? How is Transdev dropping frequencies or giving up routes any different to First,apart from Transdev being better at putting a PR spin on it?
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Post by deerfold on Aug 24, 2022 21:42:06 GMT 1
The new 579 timetable is on the Metro site. It's still every 20 minutes. The frequency of the 372 isn't changing either. The changes to the 521/2/3 are also very minor. I was going off what it said on bustimes. I did not know Metro released it yet. Bustimes also shows a 20 minute frequency.
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Post by Username on Aug 24, 2022 21:57:42 GMT 1
I was going off what it said on bustimes. I did not know Metro released it yet. Bustimes also shows a 20 minute frequency. With the registered timetable changes not the timetable itself.
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Post by deerfold on Aug 25, 2022 17:43:17 GMT 1
Bustimes also shows a 20 minute frequency. With the registered timetable changes not the timetable itself. I don't see anything that suggested a frequency decrease. They mention changes to timetables, but I can't see anything that refers to frequency drops on any of the routes or anything about the changes being due to driver shortages.
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Post by stephen01 on Aug 25, 2022 20:07:18 GMT 1
With the registered timetable changes not the timetable itself. I don't see anything that suggested a frequency decrease. They mention changes to timetables, but I can't see anything that refers to frequency drops on any of the routes or anything about the changes being due to driver shortages. Could be a simple change to timing point locations similar to how Arriva changed the 281/283 timing point in Batley to outside Batley Baths/Fox's instead of Commercial Street which didnt have a impact on timetable. The same with the 229 as it's usually tweaking timing points.
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Post by peteleeds on Aug 26, 2022 13:07:18 GMT 1
81 returning 5th September. Run by squarepeg.
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Post by mk2mcw on Aug 26, 2022 18:51:07 GMT 1
81 returning 5th September. Run by squarepeg. Wow first night run!
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Post by peteleeds on Aug 26, 2022 19:51:58 GMT 1
81 returning 5th September. Run by squarepeg. Wow first night run! I notice they haven't mentioned 81a so it might still just be a daytime operator
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Post by westyorkshirebus on Aug 28, 2022 10:05:45 GMT 1
The new timetables are now on First’s website
In Leeds on the services that are ‘revised to accommodate school services’ it is as expected where one bus is pulled off service at school times. For example on the 16 the 14:51 now only runs from Pudsey to Bramley, but then the return journey restarts from Whinmoor as normal
Obviously not ideal as it’s means a 30 min gap at these times (probably more due to the build up of passengers plus it’ll also face school time traffic) when it used to be a 10 minute service. Whether this was all planned or Metro coming to an agreement with First to do it as it was the only way to get school services resourced is not known, but I bet it was the latter.
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Post by joseph on Aug 29, 2022 9:54:49 GMT 1
The new timetables are now on First’s website In Leeds on the services that are ‘revised to accommodate school services’ it is as expected where one bus is pulled off service at school times. For example on the 16 the 14:51 now only runs from Pudsey to Bramley, but then the return journey restarts from Whinmoor as normal Obviously not ideal as it’s means a 30 min gap at these times (probably more due to the build up of passengers plus it’ll also face school time traffic) when it used to be a 10 minute service. Whether this was all planned or Metro coming to an agreement with First to do it as it was the only way to get school services resourced is not known, but I bet it was the latter. May also be the reason why, if rumours are correct, they are pulling the X98/9. CT Plus covered a lot of daytime school duties, e.g. sports runs, which maybe these 4 drivers, as well as any taken on will be used on. The income is the same week on week unlike service work where passenger numbers aren't guaranteed, and these drivers can easily be used to cover staff off during school holidays so maybe the benefits of this type of work far outweigh profits they got from running the Wetherby routes. Schools will have no choice as well but to cough up what First are asking for bearing in mind other companies will struggle to cover the work.
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Post by mk2mcw on Aug 29, 2022 14:05:21 GMT 1
The new timetables are now on First’s website In Leeds on the services that are ‘revised to accommodate school services’ it is as expected where one bus is pulled off service at school times. For example on the 16 the 14:51 now only runs from Pudsey to Bramley, but then the return journey restarts from Whinmoor as normal Obviously not ideal as it’s means a 30 min gap at these times (probably more due to the build up of passengers plus it’ll also face school time traffic) when it used to be a 10 minute service. Whether this was all planned or Metro coming to an agreement with First to do it as it was the only way to get school services resourced is not known, but I bet it was the latter. May also be the reason why, if rumours are correct, they are pulling the X98/9. CT Plus covered a lot of daytime school duties, e.g. sports runs, which maybe these 4 drivers, as well as any taken on will be used on. The income is the same week on week unlike service work where passenger numbers aren't guaranteed, and these drivers can easily be used to cover staff off during school holidays so maybe the benefits of this type of work far outweigh profits they got from running the Wetherby routes. Schools will have no choice as well but to cough up what First are asking for bearing in mind other companies will struggle to cover the work. X98/9 apparently off to transdev
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Post by adam on Aug 30, 2022 13:29:22 GMT 1
May also be the reason why, if rumours are correct, they are pulling the X98/9. CT Plus covered a lot of daytime school duties, e.g. sports runs, which maybe these 4 drivers, as well as any taken on will be used on. The income is the same week on week unlike service work where passenger numbers aren't guaranteed, and these drivers can easily be used to cover staff off during school holidays so maybe the benefits of this type of work far outweigh profits they got from running the Wetherby routes. Schools will have no choice as well but to cough up what First are asking for bearing in mind other companies will struggle to cover the work. X98/9 apparently off to transdev This makes sense as it was teased by Alex with a double decker and Wetherby
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Post by davopazza on Aug 30, 2022 17:46:37 GMT 1
May also be the reason why, if rumours are correct, they are pulling the X98/9. CT Plus covered a lot of daytime school duties, e.g. sports runs, which maybe these 4 drivers, as well as any taken on will be used on. The income is the same week on week unlike service work where passenger numbers aren't guaranteed, and these drivers can easily be used to cover staff off during school holidays so maybe the benefits of this type of work far outweigh profits they got from running the Wetherby routes. Schools will have no choice as well but to cough up what First are asking for bearing in mind other companies will struggle to cover the work. X98/9 apparently off to transdev Transdev have confirmed. www.transdevbus.co.uk/harrogate/skyclass-comes-wetherby
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Post by westyorkshirebus on Aug 30, 2022 18:06:06 GMT 1
Wrong thread as this isn’t happening until October
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Post by leeds rider on Aug 31, 2022 16:56:04 GMT 1
New registration from Harrogate Coach Travel (Connexions):
Service number.61, 61A Service type Normal Stopping Start point St James Hospital Finish point John Charles Stadium Via Hunslet Date received 26 Aug 2022 Effective date 05 Sep 2022 Supported by subsidies? Yes
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Post by joseph on Aug 31, 2022 19:05:55 GMT 1
I hope bus times is wrong as it has a new timetable for the 61 with just 3 journeys each way, and with a massive gap too, e.g. buses from the hospital at 07.47, 09.05 and 16.15!
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Post by jst on Aug 31, 2022 19:27:18 GMT 1
I hope bus times is wrong as it has a new timetable for the 61 with just 3 journeys each way, and with a massive gap too, e.g. buses from the hospital at 07.47, 09.05 and 16.15! I would assume an error as the 64 timetable has no buses between 0900-1600 either.
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Post by A1YBG on Aug 31, 2022 21:28:49 GMT 1
I hope bus times is wrong as it has a new timetable for the 61 with just 3 journeys each way, and with a massive gap too, e.g. buses from the hospital at 07.47, 09.05 and 16.15! I would assume an error as the 64 timetable has no buses between 0900-1600 either. Thats prob cos its under 2 operators. Try connexions 64 sure u will find their times there.
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Post by deerfold on Aug 31, 2022 21:57:51 GMT 1
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Post by peteleeds on Sept 1, 2022 7:21:30 GMT 1
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Post by A1YBG on Sept 1, 2022 19:59:39 GMT 1
For those who don't have social media here is the 81 timetable Attachments:
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Post by tyresmoke on Sept 3, 2022 9:56:44 GMT 1
For those who don't have social media here is the 81 timetable Looks to be one on a school in the morning and then both used for schools on an afternoon
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