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Post by westyorkshirebus on Jul 13, 2023 22:28:30 GMT 1
Postponed from July ,now middle of August for the first phase , the rest October. WYCA just doesn't like Halifax. Several projects put on hold for Halifax such as the new Leisure Centre, Railway station gateway and Salterhebble works. All of which were supposed to be completed by now. . I was looking forwards to the opening but I guess now we are going to have to wait longer. Late 2022, then spring 2023, summer 2023 and now autumn what a joke! I believe the WYCA has deliberately told the builders to work slowly to annoy you It was never going to be ‘late 2022’, it was always going to be 2023
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Post by Username on Jul 14, 2023 0:36:49 GMT 1
WYCA just doesn't like Halifax. Several projects put on hold for Halifax such as the new Leisure Centre, Railway station gateway and Salterhebble works. All of which were supposed to be completed by now. . I was looking forwards to the opening but I guess now we are going to have to wait longer. Late 2022, then spring 2023, summer 2023 and now autumn what a joke! I believe the WYCA has deliberately told the builders to work slowly to annoy you It was never going to be ‘late 2022’, it was always going to be 2023 Never is a bit of a strong word. Calderdale Next chapter a site managed by Calderdale Council used to say late 2022. In early documents at some point said it was even supposed to open in 2021. The idea started in 2018 could have even been a possibility that they expected to finish it in 2020. Once again are you sure you want to say NEVER? As most projects in early stages are actually expected to be finished earlier. Heckmondwike Bus Station was due to finish construction this year but any sign of that starting yet?
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Post by deerfold on Jul 14, 2023 9:38:43 GMT 1
I believe the WYCA has deliberately told the builders to work slowly to annoy you It was never going to be ‘late 2022’, it was always going to be 2023 Never is a bit of a strong word. Calderdale Next chapter a site managed by Calderdale Council used to say late 2022. In early documents at some point said it was even supposed to open in 2021. The idea started in 2018 could have even been a possibility that they expected to finish it in 2020. Once again are you sure you want to say NEVER? As most projects in early stages are actually expected to be finished earlier. Heckmondwike Bus Station was due to finish construction this year but any sign of that starting yet? I think the "never" refers to dates quoted one the work on the site had started. Steeton station car park was supposed to be finished in 2020 when first suggested, but work didn't start until last year. That is now late as it should have opened by now.
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Post by stephen01 on Jul 14, 2023 10:16:17 GMT 1
I believe the WYCA has deliberately told the builders to work slowly to annoy you It was never going to be ‘late 2022’, it was always going to be 2023 Never is a bit of a strong word. Calderdale Next chapter a site managed by Calderdale Council used to say late 2022. In early documents at some point said it was even supposed to open in 2021. The idea started in 2018 could have even been a possibility that they expected to finish it in 2020. Once again are you sure you want to say NEVER? As most projects in early stages are actually expected to be finished earlier. Heckmondwike Bus Station was due to finish construction this year but any sign of that starting yet? Heckmondwike will be the easiest to sort but it's a case of waiting for Kirklees to confirm with Metro, Arriva & Station Coaches where the temporary stops will be as the hub will have to be shut whilst the amendments to the hub take place.
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Post by Username on Aug 11, 2023 13:34:12 GMT 1
Usually there's a notice about 2-3 weeks before the next phase of construction starts I'm guessing the bus station now won't open until September. So much for "Summer 2023." There's only 2 and a half weeks left of August.
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Post by mattb7tl on Aug 11, 2023 13:53:44 GMT 1
Usually there's a notice about 2-3 weeks before the next phase of construction starts I'm guessing the bus station now won't open until September. So much for "Summer 2023." There's only 2 and a half weeks left of August. Construction companies rarely have accurate dates they are always way too generous with their predictions. Best way to treat anything being constructed is that it will be finished when it is finished. My only hope is that it is before winter...
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Post by Username on Aug 11, 2023 15:56:23 GMT 1
Usually there's a notice about 2-3 weeks before the next phase of construction starts I'm guessing the bus station now won't open until September. So much for "Summer 2023." There's only 2 and a half weeks left of August. Construction companies rarely have accurate dates they are always way too generous with their predictions. Best way to treat anything being constructed is that it will be finished when it is finished. My only hope is that it is before winter... I might sound like I am being annoying right now, but when I say this I speak for a lot of people of Halifax. The amount of times I have had conversations with friends and family as well as overhearing people's conversations they aren't happy with the delay. I know several people who refuse to use the bus after dark in Halifax to go to nightclubs and bars etc. because they don't feel safe having to wait at bus stops. Back when we had a bus station they would feel more safe as there would still be Metro night staff roaming around the area would be more populated so that people could look out for each other. Connecting buses is also now a nuisance with some people having to run across the entire town to make sure that they make their bus on time. Not everyone is Usain Bolt. What's more frustrating is that locals in the consultation said that the new bus station should have been located on the site next to the railway station a bit like Bradford Interchange. This would have allowed us to keep the current bus station whilst it's being built on a new site but WYCA thought it was smart to rob the town of its bus station. If it was on a different sight I wouldn't complain as we would still have a bus station that serves its purpose. Yes I know construction is never accurate but for a while they planned to open late July which means that they didn't think about delay as after that there is only one month left of summer encase of delay which isn't viable because they promised Summer 2023. If they said Mid-2023 that would have been a better term to use and the locals and I wouldn't be so fussed about it.
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Post by MetrolineGA1511 on Aug 12, 2023 13:32:31 GMT 1
I was sufficiently disappointed about Halifax Bus Station not likely to open this month that I have decided to tour other nearby areas, Bradford & Keighley, instead. I even booked a coach to Bradford so that I'd be spared the experience of being on a train stopping at Halifax.
Ironically, it is just as well I booked the coach due to the rail strike due that day (August 26th) but that's another story.
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Post by MetrolineGA1511 on Aug 13, 2023 15:40:00 GMT 1
As a PS to my post yesterday, I have seen that National Express restricted fares for my coaches have either sold out or been withdrawn. So my fare of £8 is a bargain compared to £26 now.
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Post by andy1 on Aug 24, 2023 20:36:30 GMT 1
It will be running into the temporary bus station from W/C 3rd Sept because the opening of the new station as being put back till October apparently ! Transdev unfortunately jumped the gun registering a change of route from the 3rd , and this is the result.
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Post by Bradford Traveller on Aug 24, 2023 21:53:08 GMT 1
It will be running into the temporary bus station from W/C 3rd Sept because the opening of the new station as being put back till October apparently ! Transdev unfortunately jumped the gun registering a change of route from the 3rd , and this is the result. The above link isn't working. Does this mean no changes to service?
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Post by arriva1606 on Aug 24, 2023 23:19:56 GMT 1
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Post by leedsbusman on Sept 8, 2023 18:30:39 GMT 1
Just to be clear this is only 1/2 the stands opening and the buses from the temporary facility moving in. The other half will still be months away.
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Post by Username on Sept 8, 2023 18:34:29 GMT 1
Just to be clear this is only 1/2 the stands opening and the buses from the temporary facility moving in. The other half will still be months away. Well technically not half as the top side has 10 stands compared to the bottom side which has nine. There is layover space at the top side so I don't get why services such as 526, 534, 561, 562, 574 and 577 can't come in as well most of them are hourly services so it won't take up a lot of space.
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Post by Father Dougal McGuire on Sept 9, 2023 20:52:23 GMT 1
Sooner it opens the better. Being definitely not a Todmorden driver, we get to Crown Street and the only place to go to relieve yourself is the depot if not it's a cross legged journey back. There has been times where I've driven round to the bus station to find there's nowhere to park so had no choice to go to the depot.
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Post by westyorkshirebus on Sept 9, 2023 21:23:20 GMT 1
Just to be clear this is only 1/2 the stands opening and the buses from the temporary facility moving in. The other half will still be months away. Well technically not half as the top side has 10 stands compared to the bottom side which has nine. There is layover space at the top side so I don't get why services such as 526, 534, 561, 562, 574 and 577 can't come in as well most of them are hourly services so it won't take up a lot of space. Is there any particular reason why those services need to be fast tracked and can't just wait until its finished?
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Post by joseph on Sept 9, 2023 21:23:51 GMT 1
Sooner it opens the better. Being definitely not a Todmorden driver, we get to Crown Street and the only place to go to relieve yourself is the depot if not it's a cross legged journey back. There has been times where I've driven round to the bus station to find there's nowhere to park so had no choice to go to the depot. I'll give you a tip, I know some cafe and pub owners insist on only customers using toilets so nip around on foot to Wetherspoons as they don't object and it's a couple of minutes away from Crown Street with good opening hours, I use those and Sainsburys toilets each time I'm in Halifax.
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Post by mattb7tl on Sept 9, 2023 21:31:11 GMT 1
Well technically not half as the top side has 10 stands compared to the bottom side which has nine. There is layover space at the top side so I don't get why services such as 526, 534, 561, 562, 574 and 577 can't come in as well most of them are hourly services so it won't take up a lot of space. Is there any particular reason why those services need to be fast tracked and can't just wait until its finished? Infrequent It is acceptable to have a show up and go service on the side of the street but not hourly routes which barely carry any passengers in the first place. Those kinds of routes probably struggled the most throughout the reconstruction.
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Post by deerfold on Sept 9, 2023 21:48:00 GMT 1
Well technically not half as the top side has 10 stands compared to the bottom side which has nine. There is layover space at the top side so I don't get why services such as 526, 534, 561, 562, 574 and 577 can't come in as well most of them are hourly services so it won't take up a lot of space. Is there any particular reason why those services need to be fast tracked and can't just wait until its finished? It'd be good if services to the same areas went from the same areas. Where they don't, it'd be good if they went from nearby stands in the bus station. A relative has regularly had long waits to Greetland after cancellations as it's a long walk with shopping to the stop for the other service (and they're regularly not evenly spaced gaps between the services).
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Post by Username on Sept 10, 2023 8:27:04 GMT 1
Well technically not half as the top side has 10 stands compared to the bottom side which has nine. There is layover space at the top side so I don't get why services such as 526, 534, 561, 562, 574 and 577 can't come in as well most of them are hourly services so it won't take up a lot of space. Is there any particular reason why those services need to be fast tracked and can't just wait until its finished? First of all, the 526 operates a similar route to the 502 between Bradshaw and Halifax so it would make it easier for customers rather than having to trek all the way to Market Street from the temporary bus station if you miss a 502. With that idea, you have a slight chance of missing the bus because they aren't spaced well apart. Service 534 serves similar areas to the 508, 681 and 682 so it really does help having them leave from the same area encase of cancellations, delays etc. being the only service available to Northowram and saving you from having to trek across town missing the bus. If you send the 562 back to the bus station, like it does in the evening, it can serve Commercial Street Stop 20 rather than starting at Hornton Street making sure that both the 343, 562 leave from the same bus stops so that Greetland passengers aren't having to trek across town. The reason I suggested 561 with that as well as it helps having similar services leave from the same area. In terms of 574 and 577, there isn't much of a proper reason but perhaps I'm being biased as I know some regulars who connect from a Sowerby Bridge bus and connect for a Bradford Bus from the bus station and the timings don't work well with any bus when a walk is thrown in the mix. The 576 may be frequent but suffers from a lot of delays because something is always happening on Great Hornton Road. So if they miss a bus, it might be a while for the 681/2. Yes Sowerby Bridge does have a bus to the bus station and they like being able to do that on the 586 however, that's been cut to every 2 hours so it would help with 574/7. These two buses already serve the bus station in the evening as well.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 10, 2023 16:44:36 GMT 1
Is there any particular reason why those services need to be fast tracked and can't just wait until its finished? First of all, the 526 operates a similar route to the 502 between Bradshaw and Halifax so it would make it easier for customers rather than having to trek all the way to Market Street from the temporary bus station if you miss a 502. With that idea, you have a slight chance of missing the bus because they aren't spaced well apart. Service 534 serves similar areas to the 508, 681 and 682 so it really does help having them leave from the same area encase of cancellations, delays etc. being the only service available to Northowram and saving you from having to trek across town missing the bus. If you send the 562 back to the bus station, like it does in the evening, it can serve Commercial Street Stop 20 rather than starting at Hornton Street making sure that both the 343, 562 leave from the same bus stops so that Greetland passengers aren't having to trek across town. The reason I suggested 561 with that as well as it helps having similar services leave from the same area. In terms of 574 and 577, there isn't much of a proper reason but perhaps I'm being biased as I know some regulars who connect from a Sowerby Bridge bus and connect for a Bradford Bus from the bus station and the timings don't work well with any bus when a walk is thrown in the mix. The 576 may be frequent but suffers from a lot of delays because something is always happening on Great Hornton Road. So if they miss a bus, it might be a while for the 681/2. Yes Sowerby Bridge does have a bus to the bus station and they like being able to do that on the 586 however, that's been cut to every 2 hours so it would help with 574/7. These two buses already serve the bus station in the evening as well. Rather than 574/7 wouldn't it make more sense to move 343 & 563 if your moving 561/2,allowing the Copley & Greetland routes to all depart from 1 place?
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Post by Username on Sept 10, 2023 17:46:26 GMT 1
First of all, the 526 operates a similar route to the 502 between Bradshaw and Halifax so it would make it easier for customers rather than having to trek all the way to Market Street from the temporary bus station if you miss a 502. With that idea, you have a slight chance of missing the bus because they aren't spaced well apart. Service 534 serves similar areas to the 508, 681 and 682 so it really does help having them leave from the same area encase of cancellations, delays etc. being the only service available to Northowram and saving you from having to trek across town missing the bus. If you send the 562 back to the bus station, like it does in the evening, it can serve Commercial Street Stop 20 rather than starting at Hornton Street making sure that both the 343, 562 leave from the same bus stops so that Greetland passengers aren't having to trek across town. The reason I suggested 561 with that as well as it helps having similar services leave from the same area. In terms of 574 and 577, there isn't much of a proper reason but perhaps I'm being biased as I know some regulars who connect from a Sowerby Bridge bus and connect for a Bradford Bus from the bus station and the timings don't work well with any bus when a walk is thrown in the mix. The 576 may be frequent but suffers from a lot of delays because something is always happening on Great Hornton Road. So if they miss a bus, it might be a while for the 681/2. Yes Sowerby Bridge does have a bus to the bus station and they like being able to do that on the 586 however, that's been cut to every 2 hours so it would help with 574/7. These two buses already serve the bus station in the evening as well. Rather than 574/7 wouldn't it make more sense to move 343 & 563 if your moving 561/2,allowing the Copley & Greetland routes to all depart from 1 place? To be fair, 10 stands is more than enough room for all of them. There's already a layover space at the top as well so I doubt any stands are to be used for layover.
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Post by MetrolineGA1511 on Sept 16, 2023 10:28:31 GMT 1
Sooner it opens the better. Being definitely not a Todmorden driver, we get to Crown Street and the only place to go to relieve yourself is the depot if not it's a cross legged journey back. There has been times where I've driven round to the bus station to find there's nowhere to park so had no choice to go to the depot. I'll give you a tip, I know some cafe and pub owners insist on only customers using toilets so nip around on foot to Wetherspoons as they don't object and it's a couple of minutes away from Crown Street with good opening hours, I use those and Sainsburys toilets each time I'm in Halifax. I have used Wetherspoon and Sainsbury's at Halifax too.
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