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Post by ratty on May 14, 2015 18:39:24 GMT 1
Question. Are these Streetlites extra to the supposed 7 Halifax were supposed to be getting. Or, have First capitulated and given them to Bradford instead???
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Post by 1071 on May 15, 2015 6:31:24 GMT 1
I can now confirm that Bradford are to recieve 12 Wright Streetlites. Management are currently asking for suggestions of names to put on them. They would suitable for the 615/616 service, tight bends and a narrow bridge between Wilsden and Harden on the latter route 622/623/625/626/627 could do with smaller buses so would gook on them because there is always loads of space left when I sometimes get on and my sister gets on In a morning she gets to choose wherever she wants to sit.
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Post by 1071 on May 15, 2015 6:37:35 GMT 1
Please, please, please let it be the B7L's, I had hoped the fact that these remained unpainted was a sign they may be on their way out until that hope was dashed with others recently joining 60877 in new colours. I'm lucky enough to have a choice of routes home from Bradford and actually choose my route home depending on which service does not throw one of these my way. In reality though I reckon it will be some of the B10BLE's which, although being much more comfortable and it appears to me to have much better performance, are starting to sound a little rough. Still eleven B7L's and 12 new buses, I can still hope! 3 B7L'S repainted now so i am guessing it will be the B10s, as non of the T-regs/V-regs have received a repaint and majority in a poor condition. If this is the case it will leave 12 B10s. Does anyone think streetlites will receive guide wheels as currently there's still 8 B10S with guide wheels. I think the streetlites will because there new and I overheard a bus driver saying they will all. Go on 622/3//5/6/7
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Post by westyorkshirebus on May 20, 2015 20:52:07 GMT 1
If the 622 etc could do with smaller buses, why is half the service run with double decks?
If I got on in Brighouse I'd probably have the bus to myself, but in the peaks it'd be full by the time it arrived in Bradford.
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Post by 37057 on May 20, 2015 23:31:26 GMT 1
If the 622 etc could do with smaller buses, why is half the service run with double decks? If I got on in Brighouse I'd probably have the bus to myself, but in the peaks it'd be full by the time it arrived in Bradford. Highly doubt their for 622/3/6, Ive heard that their for 620 yellow which makes sense as there is only 4 B10s allocated do the route at the moment. Also Bradford are due to lose a number of Olympians when the 12 streetlites arrive, which i guessing will be around September time.
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Post by westyorkshirebus on May 21, 2015 17:29:03 GMT 1
That must mean the B10BLE single decks are staying then and replacing double decks on another service.
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Post by mikeyh on May 21, 2015 18:18:30 GMT 1
If the 622 etc could do with smaller buses, why is half the service run with double decks? If I got on in Brighouse I'd probably have the bus to myself, but in the peaks it'd be full by the time it arrived in Bradford. Highly doubt their for 622/3/6, Ive heard that their for 620 yellow which makes sense as there is only 4 B10s allocated do the route at the moment. Also Bradford are due to lose a number of Olympians when the 12 streetlites arrive, which i guessing will be around September time. Yes Streetlites are for the 620 as things stand. 622/623/626 is to continue with B7RLEs & Geminis as present.
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Post by Arriva Wakefield on May 21, 2015 21:44:31 GMT 1
That must mean the B10BLE single decks are staying then and replacing double decks on another service. Quite possibly, as today I've heard rumours of a number of deckers (11 Gemini's were mentioned) to leave Bradford for use at another depot.
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Post by westyorkshirebus on May 21, 2015 22:09:10 GMT 1
I doubt any Gemini's will be leaving due the current situation at Bradford, unless new double decks are coming as well, which is unlikely as they would have mentioned it in recent articles, as if that happened the drivers might as walk out now.
You can't get a small number of Streetlites and replace unrepainted B10BLEs, Olympians and Gemini's!
Ideally they'd get about 10 E400s for the X6, which should have the newest vehicles, is busy and must be very profitable. That would then pretty much remove ALX400s from public service allowing them to withdraw Olympians on schools, but it doesn't seem to be on the cards. The Streetlites could then sort out the oldest B10BLEs. They'd only need about 20-25 new buses to make a significant impact in Bradford. Not a massive investment. On the same note, I'd suggest about 10 more E400s for Leeds, cascading all remaining ALX400s to Huddersfield replacing Olympians there. Halifax would keep its Olympians for another year.
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Post by 37057 on May 22, 2015 1:22:47 GMT 1
I doubt any Gemini's will be leaving due the current situation at Bradford, unless new double decks are coming as well, which is unlikely as they would have mentioned it in recent articles, as if that happened the drivers might as walk out now. You can't get a small number of Streetlites and replace unrepainted B10BLEs, Olympians and Gemini's! Ideally they'd get about 10 E400s for the X6, which should have the newest vehicles, is busy and must be very profitable. That would then pretty much remove ALX400s from public service allowing them to withdraw Olympians on schools, but it doesn't seem to be on the cards. The Streetlites could then sort out the oldest B10BLEs. They'd only need about 20-25 new buses to make a significant impact in Bradford. Not a massive investment. On the same note, I'd suggest about 10 more E400s for Leeds, cascading all remaining ALX400s to Huddersfield replacing Olympians there. Halifax would keep its Olympians for another year. Well according to the first post in this thread, 39 new double deckers are due and 11 sallons for west Yorkshire. I dont know if this information is correct, but if it is the case, I'm guessing older double deckers ALX400s/04 b7tls from leeds to transfer to Bradford to withdraw Olympians and Streetlites to withdraw b10s. Just have to wait and see. Definitely agree the X6 should have new doubles with Wifi/leather seats.
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Post by biroguy on May 22, 2015 17:35:13 GMT 1
It`s not in First`s interest anymore to keep old bangers on the road in places like Halifax and Bradford. The new city regions will have responsibility for transport with powerful elected mayors just like London. Instead of just Leeds it will actually cover the whole of West Yorkshire plus York. George Osborne is pushing these through starting with Greater Manchester.
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Post by westyorkshirebus on May 23, 2015 0:19:58 GMT 1
Definitely agree the X6 should have new doubles with Wifi/leather seats. The X6 should really have buses the same sort of spec as Arriva's Sapphire. It isn't even route branded anymore which is poor. It is surely to Bradford what the 110 is to Belle Isle or the 36 is to Harrogate.
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Post by rst1987 on May 29, 2015 22:20:04 GMT 1
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Post by Steve Macz403 on May 29, 2015 22:42:36 GMT 1
interesting order there if West Yorkshire receives any buses during 15/16. Double deck wise, its most likely to be some of the Wright street deck order. Lets hope some of that order goes to Bradford or Halifax.
Even though I'm in favour of Leeds receiving new buses, its fleet is relatively above average age uk wise.
As i know, that order could change, i know previous orders in 2013 order for enviro 400's were changed.
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Post by 576 Gemini 2 on May 30, 2015 10:19:27 GMT 1
interesting order there if West Yorkshire receives any buses during 15/16. Double deck wise, its most likely to be some of the Wright street deck order. Lets hope some of that order goes to Bradford or Halifax. Even though I'm in favour of Leeds receiving new buses, its fleet is relatively above average age uk wise. As i know, that order could change, i know previous orders in 2013 order for enviro 400's was changed.
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Post by 576 Gemini 2 on May 30, 2015 10:20:22 GMT 1
interesting order there if West Yorkshire receives any buses during 15/16. Double deck wise, its most likely to be some of the Wright street deck order. Lets hope some of that order goes to Bradford or Halifax. Even though I'm in favour of Leeds receiving new buses, its fleet is relatively above average age uk wise. As i know, that order could change, i know previous orders in 2013 order for enviro 400's was changed. Probably see off the last of the Olympians and large numbers of President/ALX400 bodied Tridents & ALX400s in the group
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Post by biroguy on May 30, 2015 21:29:51 GMT 1
25 of the streetdecks are going to Rotherham, good to see Euro 6 engines bought on this scale. I wonder if the streetdecks will feature the new front and glass staircase panels.
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Post by SF07 on Jun 1, 2015 19:26:41 GMT 1
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Post by westyorkshirebus on Jun 1, 2015 19:47:06 GMT 1
7 isn't a great deal, I was hoping there would be enough for the whole Red Arrow to stop the current half arsed situation and allow the 3 Eclipse 2s to go back onto 590s
Services 510/512 have a PVR of 7. The 521 on its own is 6. The 548/549 which was previously suggested is 8, so there wouldn't be enough.
The fact only Bradford and Halifax are announcing these buses suggests that that is all FWY is getting this year.
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Post by driver6540 on Jun 1, 2015 22:17:22 GMT 1
I was hoping Huddersfield might have been in with a chance of a few Streetdeck's or E400's seeing as though we have the oldest decker fleet in West York's. I know people will say we have 13 reg Eclipse's and 64 reg Streelite's, but when you consider our newest decker's are 54 reg examples (B7TL/Gemini's) and the bulk of decker route's in Hudd's are operated by ex-Leeds cast off ALX400's up to 15 year's old, then i really think Huddersfield is the poor relation decker wise. What other depot sends out step Olympian's/Royale's out on regular diagram's that aren't just school runs or works contract's? (Don't mind that one though, as the Royale's are still a class above the ALX400's). If First are serious about raising their depot "age profile", they should take a look at Huddersfield and see how disproportionate it is between the single and double decker fleets there.
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Post by westyorkshirebus on Jun 1, 2015 22:34:57 GMT 1
That's nothing new, during the Dennis Lance era, Huddersfield's double deck fleet was Atlanteans, 15-20 years old at least!
The fact they received new buses in 2013 & 2014 is probably why they are receiving nothing this time.
They do have enough low floor buses to cover public services, Olympians in service is either poor allocating or engineering requirements.
When FirstGroup have ordered so few double decks this time, I can't see any route in Huddersfield being anywhere near the front of the queue, none of it is particularly high profile except maybe the X63 and even that isn't really.
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Post by driver6540 on Jun 8, 2015 22:42:36 GMT 1
The seven new Streetlite's for Halifax are the Max versions in the 63xxx series, unlike the shorter 42xxx ones Huddersfield have. Some have arrived at Heysham docks, so expect them imminently.
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Post by driver6540 on Jun 8, 2015 22:50:01 GMT 1
The seven new Streetlite's for Halifax are the Max versions in the 63xxx series, unlike the shorter 42xxx ones Huddersfield have. Some have arrived at Heysham docks, so expect them imminently. The first confirmed one at Heysham is numbered 63289.
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Post by driver6540 on Jun 10, 2015 22:02:34 GMT 1
You are correct, I pressed a 2 instead of 7 in error that's all. I've now rode on a few of Hudd's Streetlite's and found them surprisingly good. Doe's anyone know if it's the same engine in the Max's or is it bigger?.
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Post by rst1987 on Jun 11, 2015 16:50:50 GMT 1
West Yorkshire are getting just 19 StreetLites (7 for Halifax & 12 for Bradford) and that's it. No new double deckers coming in 2015-16 order. Scotland, South Yorkshire, Greater Manchester, Leicester & Bristol are the places these double deckers are going to.
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