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Post by stantheman on Jul 1, 2022 7:34:39 GMT 1
Interesting to know how the buses will get on after being stood for the best part of 4 weeks. Hopefully no battery drains or brakes stuck on! Garage staff going to be busy doing checks, but presume they’ve been keeping on top of things in the last month.
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Post by stephen01 on Jul 1, 2022 7:55:46 GMT 1
Interesting to know how the buses will get on after being stood for the best part of 4 weeks. Hopefully no battery drains or brakes stuck on! Garage staff going to be busy doing checks, but presume they’ve been keeping on top of things in the last month. Doubt it as engineering were in the strike too so in theory they should have been going in after yesterday's statements but who knows in practicallity |
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Post by Penfold on Jul 1, 2022 9:27:39 GMT 1
Interesting to know how the buses will get on after being stood for the best part of 4 weeks. Hopefully no battery drains or brakes stuck on! Garage staff going to be busy doing checks, but presume they’ve been keeping on top of things in the last month. Non union engineers/Head(and director) of Engineering and outside contractors(who were working before strike action) have kept up with MOT's and 28/35 day saftey checks. Obviously you cannnot expect every bus to start or run without issues after being stood (barring short movements) for so long. Penfold |
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Post by Penfold on Jul 1, 2022 9:31:02 GMT 1
Interesting to know how the buses will get on after being stood for the best part of 4 weeks. Hopefully no battery drains or brakes stuck on! Garage staff going to be busy doing checks, but presume they’ve been keeping on top of things in the last month. Doubt it as engineering were in the strike too so in theory they should have been going in after yesterday's statements but who knows in practicallity Not every member of engineering was on strike plus there are the Chargehands and Heads of Engineering and the usual outside contractors too. Engineers who were on strike have started back this morning (Friday) hence one of the reasons services were starting on Saturday 2nd July. Penfold |
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Post by stephen01 on Jul 1, 2022 17:24:16 GMT 1
Doubt it as engineering were in the strike too so in theory they should have been going in after yesterday's statements but who knows in practicallity Not every member of engineering was on strike plus there are the Chargehands and Heads of Engineering and the usual outside contractors too. Engineers who were on strike have started back this morning (Friday) hence one of the reasons services were starting on Saturday 2nd July. Penfold Okay i stand corrected. Would also explain why i saw a Gemini been towed down M1 last night towards Jct 40 |
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Post by WYBS on Jul 3, 2022 21:14:42 GMT 1
How has the service gone yesterday and today?
Many breakdowns?
What was the public's attitude?
Where the services well used?
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Post by stephen01 on Jul 3, 2022 21:25:43 GMT 1
How has the service gone yesterday and today? Many breakdowns? What was the public's attitude? Where the services well used? 174/175 were running yesterday to say it was Sunday timetable in West Yorks. Best way to judge footfall and breakdowns will be tomorrow & Tuesday when all services are running. |
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Post by stantheman on Jul 4, 2022 8:39:14 GMT 1
How has the service gone yesterday and today? Many breakdowns? What was the public's attitude? Where the services well used? Been using Arriva buses today (Mon). No problems. |
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Post by stephen01 on Jul 4, 2022 10:33:07 GMT 1
Well the 1015 101 from Stanley's cancelled
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Post by westyorkshirebus on Jul 12, 2022 18:48:36 GMT 1
It’s just been announced that the union members have turned down the revised pay offer and the strike is back on tomorrow
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Post by WYBS on Jul 12, 2022 20:12:45 GMT 1
It’s just been announced that the union members have turned down the revised pay offer and the strike is back on tomorrow Marvellous. Lose the rest of the passengers. Wonder where their pay rise will come from with reduced passenger numbers; who have found alternative methods of travel. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 12, 2022 20:33:09 GMT 1
It’s just been announced that the union members have turned down the revised pay offer and the strike is back on tomorrow Marvellous. Lose the rest of the passengers. Wonder where their pay rise will come from with reduced passenger numbers; who have found alternative methods of travel. Going off whats been said on social media is that they rejected it based on it being 50p less per hour than they wanted (what isn't going down too well with the public) Well it was nice enough having Arriva back whilst it lasted,think i'll be one of those passengers who will have found an alternative after trying to get about the last time i'm just going to go for a long term leased car this time. |
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Post by solo on Jul 12, 2022 20:43:39 GMT 1
Marvellous. Lose the rest of the passengers. Wonder where their pay rise will come from with reduced passenger numbers; who have found alternative methods of travel. Going off whats been said on social media is that they rejected it based on it being 50p less per hour than they wanted (what isn't going down too well with the public) Well it was nice enough having Arriva back whilst it lasted,think i'll be one of those passengers who will have found an alternative after trying to get about the last time i'm just going to go for a long term leased car this time. If the 50p is correct, it does not sound much but over a year it is about 1K per driver. Multiply that by 3or 4 hundred drivers( not sure of driver establishments) and then the extra cost is substantial. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 12, 2022 21:21:00 GMT 1
I'll stick to timing my journeys for the Globe Barnsley services
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Post by driver6540 on Jul 12, 2022 21:56:14 GMT 1
Just a shame these negotiations couldn't have been concluded to the satisfaction of both sides. There's always two sides to a story, But the real loser is the general public. We certainly live in difficult times!
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Post by yorkshireridet on Jul 12, 2022 21:57:53 GMT 1
Many years ago when I first started as a bus driver I was told that the job would never make me rich but it would always be secure employment with overtime always available to fund unexpected bills.The job has changed so much with drivers only wanting to work the shifts they want instead of everybody following the rota.Part time drivers that want as much money as possible for least hours worked.They have been offered a pay rise it is not that they have been offered nothing.What about all the people who may lose their jobs because they cannot get to work.Biting the hand that feeds comes to mind and if this continues the bus drivers will not have a job
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Post by mattb7tl on Jul 12, 2022 22:33:01 GMT 1
Arriva keeps having issue after issue. I'm starting to see absolutely no light at the end of the tunnel. They're very far behind on the driver shortage, miserable drivers, unusable buses (especially on a weekend), and strikes after strikes. Where does this even end?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 12, 2022 23:05:17 GMT 1
Arriva keeps having issue after issue. I'm starting to see absolutely no light at the end of the tunnel. They're very far behind on the driver shortage, miserable drivers, unusable buses (especially on a weekend), and strikes after strikes. Where does this even end? Service cuts and garage rationalisations I shouldn’t wonder, it is not a hugely profitable operation anyways and these continued walkouts will not help an already dire financial position. Still at least they are saving on pay! |
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Post by kendall17 on Jul 12, 2022 23:42:02 GMT 1
Marvellous. Lose the rest of the passengers. Wonder where their pay rise will come from with reduced passenger numbers; who have found alternative methods of travel. i'm just going to go for a long term leased car this time. Be waiting until 2023 for that. I'd find an alternative form of transport if I were you 👍 |
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Post by kendall17 on Jul 12, 2022 23:43:11 GMT 1
Going off whats been said on social media is that they rejected it based on it being 50p less per hour than they wanted (what isn't going down too well with the public) Well it was nice enough having Arriva back whilst it lasted,think i'll be one of those passengers who will have found an alternative after trying to get about the last time i'm just going to go for a long term leased car this time. If the 50p is correct, it does not sound much but over a year it is about 1K per driver. Multiply that by 3or 4 hundred drivers( not sure of driver establishments) and then the extra cost is substantial. Look at it the other way. £1,000 a year is a substantial loss to employees. If you were looking for a new job, would you be able to afford a £1k pa paycut? |
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Post by kendall17 on Jul 12, 2022 23:45:09 GMT 1
Many years ago when I first started as a bus driver I was told that the job would never make me rich but it would always be secure employment with overtime always available to fund unexpected bills.The job has changed so much with drivers only wanting to work the shifts they want instead of everybody following the rota.Part time drivers that want as much money as possible for least hours worked.They have been offered a pay rise it is not that they have been offered nothing.What about all the people who may lose their jobs because they cannot get to work.Biting the hand that feeds comes to mind and if this continues the bus drivers will not have a job It'll never come to that though will it? People will always be reliant on public transport. They all haven't miraculously found new jobs or been able to WFH. Kids will still need the service. People want to work fixed shifts, or hours to suit and you wonder why? There's no benefit to finishing at 1am or starting at 4am. The work life/balance is truly shocking in public transport industry and there's no reward for it. Good on the drivers for holding out for what they think they're worth. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 13, 2022 0:04:07 GMT 1
i'm just going to go for a long term leased car this time. Be waiting until 2023 for that. I'd find an alternative form of transport if I were you 👍 I've found fairly decent long term car leasing with next day delivery available,I only needed the Arriva services to get to Stourton from Leeds, so last time i survived on using the P&R plus walking (taking into account Transdev delays getting me into Leeds City Centre - what is another major factor in me looking at getting a car) If the 50p is correct, it does not sound much but over a year it is about 1K per driver. Multiply that by 3or 4 hundred drivers( not sure of driver establishments) and then the extra cost is substantial. Look at it the other way. £1,000 a year is a substantial loss to employees. If you were looking for a new job, would you be able to afford a £1k pa paycut? But have the employees lost the £1000 - its sort of hard to lose something you never had,at the same time where do you expect Arriva to get the extra cash during a time they are not making a profit? Government are hardly helping with extra funding for public transport (or dealing with the cost of living) so whilst its ok say some people will always need public transport,the question is are they enough to operate at a profit (what would fund higher wages) I Guess its a case of wait & see where Arriva swing their axe in the coming months |
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Post by rhythmb on Jul 13, 2022 2:12:31 GMT 1
Perfectly timed to coincide with the nice weather again. I hope they stay on their picket lines even if it's 40 degrees outside and little shade.
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Post by Username on Jul 13, 2022 7:11:43 GMT 1
Well I hope somebody just takes over Arriva's depots like Stagecoach or something as this has just become a mess. I would not be complaining as much if it were First as the areas First Bus operate have pleanty of other operators running in the area so people can still travel around however Wakefield and Dewsbury are pretty much isolated from the West of West Yorkshire.
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Post by kendall17 on Jul 13, 2022 9:44:13 GMT 1
Be waiting until 2023 for that. I'd find an alternative form of transport if I were you 👍 I've found fairly decent long term car leasing with next day delivery available,I only needed the Arriva services to get to Stourton from Leeds, so last time i survived on using the P&R plus walking (taking into account Transdev delays getting me into Leeds City Centre - what is another major factor in me looking at getting a car) Look at it the other way. £1,000 a year is a substantial loss to employees. If you were looking for a new job, would you be able to afford a £1k pa paycut? But have the employees lost the £1000 - its sort of hard to lose something you never had,at the same time where do you expect Arriva to get the extra cash during a time they are not making a profit? Government are hardly helping with extra funding for public transport (or dealing with the cost of living) so whilst its ok say some people will always need public transport,the question is are they enough to operate at a profit (what would fund higher wages) I Guess its a case of wait & see where Arriva swing their axe in the coming months Okay, lets look at it another way. Would you take a job that pays less than you think the going rate is? |
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