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Post by sharksmith on Jul 13, 2021 20:37:59 GMT 1
Fleet details and renumbering also on Twitter too.
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Post by 576 Gemini 2 on Jul 13, 2021 21:43:54 GMT 1
Fleet details and renumbering also on Twitter too. Wonder how long the Cadets & DB250LFs will last with Team Pennine?
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Post by westyorkshirebus on Jul 13, 2021 22:19:11 GMT 1
I had a feeling they wouldn’t be choosing buses based on what livery they were in, like some here seemed to think.
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Post by Burnside on Jul 14, 2021 3:41:44 GMT 1
Well, it's not unusual for part of a business to be sold with the best (or in this case maybe, least worst) vehicles transferred away so as to not be included.
Stagecoach did it with the East Lancashire parts of Ribble when selling it to Transdev, moved the better buses to other depots in exchange for the stuff they didn't want.
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Post by SCH117X on Jul 14, 2021 13:01:25 GMT 1
Four Rosso Scanias are still in use so some of the non Transdev Blazefield standard YT vehicles may not get culled as quickly as people might expect.
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Post by i901 on Jul 14, 2021 18:55:08 GMT 1
Four Rosso Scanias are still in use so some of the non Transdev Blazefield standard YT vehicles may not get culled as quickly as people might expect. I'd expect it will be the condition of the chassis/body and not necessarily the make of the chassis/body that determines how long it lasts. Whilst a standardised fleet is desirable from an engineering point of view, a sound non-standard vehicle that doesn't occupy lots of engineering resources is likely to outlast a 'standard' vehicle that does.
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Post by deerfold on Jul 14, 2021 19:11:23 GMT 1
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Post by driver6540 on Jul 14, 2021 23:01:23 GMT 1
This may come across as cynical, but i cant see Transdev running on the 30* Golcar and 32* Meltham routes for very long. Unlike YT and K-Line beforehand, i think Transdev will have the nous to realize there's no profit in running a few minutes behind the incumbent First services picking up just fresh air.
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Post by Burnside on Jul 14, 2021 23:07:25 GMT 1
Shame the 502 is still only around 9 minutes behind the 67 from Denholme towards Keighley.
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Post by joseph on Jul 15, 2021 6:28:50 GMT 1
I wonder if they have to keep the current times for other reasons such as staff rotas, or maybe they've just thought it'd be so much easier just to keep everything the same for now, and change it when they have more time? Regarding the routes competing with First routes, I bet they've kept them on simply because they don't have any other work for the staff doing them, and it wouldn't be great PR amongst the staff having to let staff go.
Additionally they're looking at working with South Pennine Community Transport, both companies recently had a meeting in Harrogate so who knows, could we see some kind of joint partnership there?
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Post by westyorkshirebus on Jul 15, 2021 8:02:47 GMT 1
It’s clearly just exactly the same timetables as currently, just with a minor change to 4 journeys on the 233/D1 to enable it to run standalone.
Other changes will come later when they have time to monitor things. I don’t know how much info Arriva will have provided but I bet it’s in significantly less detail than they’ll have when they are running the services every day.
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Post by deerfold on Jul 15, 2021 8:32:21 GMT 1
This may come across as cynical, but i cant see Transdev running on the 30* Golcar and 32* Meltham routes for very long. Unlike YT and K-Line beforehand, i think Transdev will have the nous to realize there's no profit in running a few minutes behind the incumbent First services picking up just fresh air. The 303/4 is a Metro contact and is the only service that serves Scapegoat Hill (and takes a slightly different route between Huddersfield and Golcar).
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Post by deerfold on Jul 15, 2021 15:49:34 GMT 1
First few timetables for Team Pennine showing on bustimes.org. Only services added so far are the 20, 21, 22, 83, 83A and 84A. Start date listed is 25th July. bustimes.org/operators/team-pennineThe Sunday-only 587 has slipped onto this list, too. Just about everything here now: bustimes.org/operators/team-pennine47 routes for anyone who wants to check there's nothing missing.
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Post by westyorkshirebus on Jul 15, 2021 16:06:49 GMT 1
Schools are missing but of course they won't be running these until September, so they won't need to be registered yet
The Huddersfield area ones are commercial by the way
C25 Halifax - Trinity Academy C35 Halifax - Rastrick High C39 Ainley Top - Brooksbank Sch C40 Halifax - Brooksbank Sch C48 Clifton - Brighouse High KM1 Shelley - Kirkburton SC1 Emley - Shelley SC2 Thunder - Shelley
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Post by dlspotter on Jul 15, 2021 16:48:18 GMT 1
I find it interesting that a Team Pennine group day ticket costs only £8 for up to 5 adults Surprised there isn't a combined Team Pennine & KDay ticket (which would also encompass the 7 to Wetherby and 843 to Seacroft), they have an all Lancashire ticket in Lancashire so slightly surprised about the lack of West Yorkshire equivalent, I understand there is the Metro Day ticket but this is over £2 the regular KDay and Team Pennine day ticket whilst all being for the same company.
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Post by stephen01 on Jul 15, 2021 17:22:16 GMT 1
Schools are missing but of course they won't be running these until September, so they won't need to be registered yet The Huddersfield area ones are commercial by the way C25 Halifax - Trinity Academy C35 Halifax - Rastrick High C39 Ainley Top - Brooksbank Sch C40 Halifax - Brooksbank Sch C48 Clifton - Brighouse High KM1 Shelley - Kirkburton SC1 Emley - Shelley SC2 Thunder - Shelley One of the school ones is listed and that's K90
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Post by deerfold on Jul 15, 2021 19:39:57 GMT 1
I find it interesting that a Team Pennine group day ticket costs only £8 for up to 5 adults. Surprised there isn't a combined Team Pennine & KDay ticket (which would also encompass the 7 to Wetherby and 843 to Seacroft), they have an all Lancashire ticket in Lancashire so slightly surprised about the lack of West Yorkshire equivalent, I understand there is the Metro Day ticket but this is over £2 the regular KDay and Team Pennine day ticket whilst all being for the same company. A Kday costs £3.90 bought in bulk on the app. A MetroDay costs £5.00 bought in bulk on the app. There's not a lot of room for another ticket in there - (would a West Yorkshire ticket not allow travel to Colne or Skipton like a KDay does?).
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Post by dlspotter on Jul 15, 2021 20:22:19 GMT 1
I find it interesting that a Team Pennine group day ticket costs only £8 for up to 5 adults. Surprised there isn't a combined Team Pennine & KDay ticket (which would also encompass the 7 to Wetherby and 843 to Seacroft), they have an all Lancashire ticket in Lancashire so slightly surprised about the lack of West Yorkshire equivalent, I understand there is the Metro Day ticket but this is over £2 the regular KDay and Team Pennine day ticket whilst all being for the same company. A Kday costs £3.90 bought in bulk on the app. A MetroDay costs £5.00 bought in bulk on the app. There's not a lot of room for another ticket in there - (would a West Yorkshire ticket not allow travel to Colne or Skipton like a KDay does?). I suppose that it might've allowed for that travel, after all the Lancashire day ticket does include Keighley, Todmorden and parts of Greater Manchester
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Post by Bradford Traveller on Jul 15, 2021 21:52:39 GMT 1
From 25 July
K-Day, K-Card and K-Card Extra tickets are extended onto route 502 that runs between Keighley and Halifax.
Current Gold and Daytripper range will also cover the full TeamPennine network that includes locations such as Huddersfield, Wakefield, Elland and Holmfirth.
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Post by westyorkshirebus on Jul 16, 2021 19:08:06 GMT 1
I find it interesting that a Team Pennine group day ticket costs only £8 for up to 5 adults. Surprised there isn't a combined Team Pennine & KDay ticket (which would also encompass the 7 to Wetherby and 843 to Seacroft), they have an all Lancashire ticket in Lancashire so slightly surprised about the lack of West Yorkshire equivalent, I understand there is the Metro Day ticket but this is over £2 the regular KDay and Team Pennine day ticket whilst all being for the same company. A Kday costs £3.90 bought in bulk on the app. A MetroDay costs £5.00 bought in bulk on the app. There's not a lot of room for another ticket in there - (would a West Yorkshire ticket not allow travel to Colne or Skipton like a KDay does?). And of course there is no equivalent of a MetroDay in Lancashire that allows travel on all operators which is probably why Transdev provide their own As you say, being sufficiently high priced so they aren’t just giving travel away, but lower than the MetroDay price doesn’t give much room
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Post by westyorkshirebus on Jul 16, 2021 19:09:19 GMT 1
Schools are missing but of course they won't be running these until September, so they won't need to be registered yet The Huddersfield area ones are commercial by the way C25 Halifax - Trinity Academy C35 Halifax - Rastrick High C39 Ainley Top - Brooksbank Sch C40 Halifax - Brooksbank Sch C48 Clifton - Brighouse High KM1 Shelley - Kirkburton SC1 Emley - Shelley SC2 Thunder - Shelley One of the school ones is listed and that's K90 The K90 has always been on the same registration as the main service (whether thats the 80/81/82 or the 233 or the D1) due to the route being the same. That’ll be why that is the only one that appears.
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Post by deerfold on Jul 16, 2021 19:38:20 GMT 1
One of the school ones is listed and that's K90 The K90 has always been on the same registration as the main service (whether thats the 80/81/82 or the 233 or the D1) due to the route being the same. That’ll be why that is the only one that appears. It doesn't explain them having the times showing for the week after next, when the college is closed.
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Post by westyorkshirebus on Jul 16, 2021 21:30:13 GMT 1
Sorry I’m lost
The reason the K90 is shown is because it is on the same registration as a public route
The reason the others aren’t shown is because they are on stand alone registrations, it doesn’t mean Team Pennine won’t be running them when September comes
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Post by stantheman on Jul 17, 2021 12:06:07 GMT 1
Fleet details and renumbering also on Twitter too. Wonder how long the Cadets & DB250LFs will last with Team Pennine? Wonder why they have renumbered 1601/02, 1610/12 out of order? No good for my OCD!!!
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Post by deerfold on Jul 17, 2021 17:12:03 GMT 1
Sorry I’m lost The reason the K90 is shown is because it is on the same registration as a public route The reason the others aren’t shown is because they are on stand alone registrations, it doesn’t mean Team Pennine won’t be running them when September comes But it won't be running when the college is closed.
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