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Post by dennisthemenace504 on Jan 29, 2021 10:35:55 GMT 1
Dennis Lance 810, caught fire at Driglington Crossroads on its journey towards Cleckheaton (can't remember which route it was on at the time). The Fire Brigade were on site within minutes, as they were returning towards Morley from Birkenshaw HQ |
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Post by dennisthemenace504 on Jan 29, 2021 12:09:41 GMT 1
In my time at AY, I liked every thing from the old Leyland Olympians, Volvo Olympian, Dennis Lance, Dennis Arrow, Volvo Renown, President, the Darts we used to have.
The vehicles I hated the most and not been mentioned, were the Volvo Citybuses, that replaced the Leyland Olympians, which they then eventually got replaced by the M reg Volvo Olympians
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Post by stephen01 on Jan 29, 2021 12:18:48 GMT 1
Dennis Lance 810, caught fire at Driglington Crossroads on its journey towards Cleckheaton (can't remember which route it was on at the time). The Fire Brigade were on site within minutes, as they were returning towards Morley from Birkenshaw HQ will have been 254 or 255 then. |
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Post by stephen01 on Jan 29, 2021 12:32:29 GMT 1
In my time at AY, I liked every thing from the old Leyland Olympians, Volvo Olympian, Dennis Lance, Dennis Arrow, Volvo Renown, President, the Darts we used to have. The vehicles I hated the most and not been mentioned, were the Volvo Citybuses, that replaced the Leyland Olympians, which they then eventually got replaced by the M reg Volvo Olympians The Leyland Olympians were good but agree the Citybuses were weird ones. I liked some of the M reg Volvo Olympians but admit i'm gutted i never got to travel on Volvo Olympians 621-623. One bus i really didn't like especially as a kid were Leyland Lynxes. |
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Post by stevieinselby on Jan 29, 2021 12:40:35 GMT 1
As a passenger, the best by a country mile were the B10BLE Renowns. The seats were much more comfortable than any other bus seats I've sat in apart from The 36, they were quiet, smooth, and you could really feel the power when the driver opened the taps. i was gutted when they got withdrew as they looked comfy and as though they still had life in them. One bus I can say wasn't good for the passengers was the Presidents. Urban 90 seats! Urban 90 seats are the worst seats I've encountered in a bus and I thought the presidents was noisy as well. Not a bus that I liked when I visited Yorkshire years ago. I think the reason the B10BLE Renowns were taken off the 415 and replaced with Presidents was just because they didn't have the capacity needed for such a busy route – the Presidents were truly awful, a combination of the Urban 90 seats that should never have been used (I would stand all the way from Selby to York rather than sit on them, they were so uncomfortable) and that dreadful screech from the engine that was like fingernails down a blackboard. I think the Renowns were relocated to another depot after leaving Selby because, yes, there was still plenty of life left in them. |
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Post by stephen01 on Jan 29, 2021 13:27:42 GMT 1
i was gutted when they got withdrew as they looked comfy and as though they still had life in them. One bus I can say wasn't good for the passengers was the Presidents. Urban 90 seats! Urban 90 seats are the worst seats I've encountered in a bus and I thought the presidents was noisy as well. Not a bus that I liked when I visited Yorkshire years ago. I think the reason the B10BLE Renowns were taken off the 415 and replaced with Presidents was just because they didn't have the capacity needed for such a busy route – the Presidents were truly awful, a combination of the Urban 90 seats that should never have been used (I would stand all the way from Selby to York rather than sit on them, they were so uncomfortable) and that dreadful screech from the engine that was like fingernails down a blackboard. I think the Renowns were relocated to another depot after leaving Selby because, yes, there was still plenty of life left in them. Any vehicle with Urban90 seats were not good. 102-109 started off at Heckmondwike on the X33 Bradford-Sheffield route and was the C.A.T.S (City And Town Shopper) brand phase prior to the lowfloor Spectras and they would be on 268 regular. When the Spectras arrived they then transferred up to Selby and indeed were used regular on the 415 and 150. The last Depot they transferred to in Arriva Yorkshire was Castleford where they appeared on 184 & 185 Wakefield to Pontefract, 189, 410 Leeds to Doncaster and if remember rightly the 408, 409 and 412 Doncaster routes before 412 got withdrawn and on the 150 Knottingley to Wakefield shorts Castleford depot ran as well as the odd 148 duties they ran. They then got withdrawn from Yorkshire fleet and transferred to Arriva Midlands straight on to the Wardle Transport network. Not sure what happened to them afterwards but i do recall 108 been up for sale on Ebay 2 or 3 years ago in the Wardle Transport livery. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 29, 2021 13:38:05 GMT 1
I think the reason the B10BLE Renowns were taken off the 415 and replaced with Presidents was just because they didn't have the capacity needed for such a busy route – the Presidents were truly awful, a combination of the Urban 90 seats that should never have been used (I would stand all the way from Selby to York rather than sit on them, they were so uncomfortable) and that dreadful screech from the engine that was like fingernails down a blackboard. I think the Renowns were relocated to another depot after leaving Selby because, yes, there was still plenty of life left in them. Any vehicle with Urban90 seats were not good. 102-109 started off at Heckmondwike on the X33 Bradford-Sheffield route and was the C.A.T.S (City And Town Shopper) brand phase prior to the lowfloor Spectras and they would be on 268 regular. When the Spectras arrived they then transferred up to Selby and indeed were used regular on the 415 and 150. The last Depot they transferred to in Arriva Yorkshire was Castleford where they appeared on 184 & 185 Wakefield to Pontefract, 189, 410 Leeds to Doncaster and if remember rightly the 408, 409 and 412 Doncaster routes before 412 got withdrawn and on the 150 Knottingley to Wakefield shorts Castleford depot ran as well as the odd 148 duties they ran. They then got withdrawn from Yorkshire fleet and transferred to Arriva Midlands straight on to the Wardle Transport network. Not sure what happened to them afterwards but i do recall 108 been up for sale on Ebay 2 or 3 years ago in the Wardle Transport livery. Looking at a couple of photos on flickr, some photos of 102 and 103 sat in a yard of withdrawn vehicles it looks like with other Arriva vehicles So I'm guessing those 2 got scrapped? Looks like 102 and 103 was withdrawn in 2015. As those photos was took in 2015. |
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Post by stephen01 on Jan 29, 2021 14:00:48 GMT 1
Any vehicle with Urban90 seats were not good. 102-109 started off at Heckmondwike on the X33 Bradford-Sheffield route and was the C.A.T.S (City And Town Shopper) brand phase prior to the lowfloor Spectras and they would be on 268 regular. When the Spectras arrived they then transferred up to Selby and indeed were used regular on the 415 and 150. The last Depot they transferred to in Arriva Yorkshire was Castleford where they appeared on 184 & 185 Wakefield to Pontefract, 189, 410 Leeds to Doncaster and if remember rightly the 408, 409 and 412 Doncaster routes before 412 got withdrawn and on the 150 Knottingley to Wakefield shorts Castleford depot ran as well as the odd 148 duties they ran. They then got withdrawn from Yorkshire fleet and transferred to Arriva Midlands straight on to the Wardle Transport network. Not sure what happened to them afterwards but i do recall 108 been up for sale on Ebay 2 or 3 years ago in the Wardle Transport livery. Looking at a couple of photos on flickr, some photos of 102 and 103 sat in a yard of withdrawn vehicles it looks like with other Arriva vehicles So I'm guessing those 2 got scrapped? Looks like 102 and 103 was withdrawn in 2015. As those photos was took in 2015. that'll match as that's when they got withdrawn from Arriva Yorkshire in 2011/2012 along with the ALX200s, ALX300s and the remaining Ikarus Citybus vehicles 13, 54 & 56 as 11 had a longer stay before been withdrawn fully when the 61reg Geminis (1508-1548) and 62 reg Pulsars (1456-1495) arrived. |
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Post by Steve Macz403 on Jan 29, 2021 14:05:50 GMT 1
I always found Pre Arriva’s - West Riding Buses choice Of Striders both on Volvo B10B and Dennis Lance chassis interesting. If anyone’s had the joys of riding Both. Volvo’s were smooth and decent, 401-432 suspension was good on these. Dennis Lances 801-830 had rock hard seats and rocky suspension. I think that was a chassis thing  The Lances were Heckmondwikes speciality - The Volvos mainly Castleford, but some did spend time at Wakefield too. Forgot to add 406-409 were Wright/ Volvos and were pre X33 buses before the renowns 102-109 in 1999. |
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Post by stephen01 on Jan 29, 2021 14:38:48 GMT 1
I always found Pre Arriva’s - West Riding Buses choice Of Striders both on Volvo B10B and Dennis Lance chassis interesting. If anyone’s had the joys of riding Both. Volvo’s were smooth and decent, 401-432 suspension was good on these. Dennis Lances 801-830 had rock hard seats and rocky suspension. I think that was a chassis thing The Lances were Heckmondwikes speciality - The Volvos mainly Castleford, but some did spend time at Wakefield too. Forgot to add 406-409 were Wright/ Volvos and were pre X33 buses before the renowns 102-109 in 1999. 406-409 were Wright Endurance and were used on Wakefield's duties and i believe 495-499 replaced them. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 29, 2021 14:46:41 GMT 1
Didn't 718-723 replace the renowns on the X33 in 2002 when they arrived then the renowns went to Selby?
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Post by stephen01 on Jan 29, 2021 15:32:14 GMT 1
Didn't 718-723 replace the renowns on the X33 in 2002 when they arrived then the renowns went to Selby? yep 718-723 did X33 then float on 254,255/268 then became Connecting Kirklees Green for 229 before going to Wakefield. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 30, 2021 0:24:57 GMT 1
What were your thoughts on 495-499? The 04 Plate Commanders. 499 is a now a Drive Trainer off course while the other 4 went up to Scotland in Mid 2009 was it?
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Post by stephen01 on Jan 30, 2021 0:48:20 GMT 1
What were your thoughts on 495-499? The 04 Plate Commanders. 499 is a now a Drive Trainer off course while the other 4 went up to Scotland in Mid 2009 was it? 499 was another good bus and shouldn't have been demoted so soon and would have been better as a pool vehicle. |
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Post by Arriva Wakefield on Jan 30, 2021 6:20:27 GMT 1
I always found Pre Arriva’s - West Riding Buses choice Of Striders both on Volvo B10B and Dennis Lance chassis interesting. If anyone’s had the joys of riding Both. Volvo’s were smooth and decent, 401-432 suspension was good on these. Dennis Lances 801-830 had rock hard seats and rocky suspension. I think that was a chassis thing The Lances were Heckmondwikes speciality - The Volvos mainly Castleford, but some did spend time at Wakefield too. Forgot to add 406-409 were Wright/ Volvos and were pre X33 buses before the renowns 102-109 in 1999. 406-409 were Wright Endurance and were used on Wakefield's duties and i believe 495-499 replaced them. The Endurances & Commanders ran alongside each other at Wakefield until at least 2007. |
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Post by dennisthemenace504 on Jan 30, 2021 6:40:08 GMT 1
I always found Pre Arriva’s - West Riding Buses choice Of Striders both on Volvo B10B and Dennis Lance chassis interesting. If anyone’s had the joys of riding Both. Volvo’s were smooth and decent, 401-432 suspension was good on these. Dennis Lances 801-830 had rock hard seats and rocky suspension. I think that was a chassis thing The Lances were Heckmondwikes speciality - The Volvos mainly Castleford, but some did spend time at Wakefield too. Forgot to add 406-409 were Wright/ Volvos and were pre X33 buses before the renowns 102-109 in 1999. Originally, Lances 819-30, were new to Castleford, while Heckmondwike had 12 Volvo Striders (fleet numbers unknown), then a swap was made where the 819-30 were transferred to Heckmondwike painted in the Yorkshire Buses half and half livery that Dewsbury's Darts had, and the Volvo's going to Castleford, again painted in to West Riding half and half livery. |
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Post by dennisthemenace504 on Jan 30, 2021 16:12:12 GMT 1
Dennis Lance 810, caught fire at Driglington Crossroads on its journey towards Cleckheaton (can't remember which route it was on at the time). The Fire Brigade were on site within minutes, as they were returning towards Morley from Birkenshaw HQ will have been 254 or 255 then. I can't remember what year it was, so may not have been just 254/255, cos we also used to do 225 during the Lances time Leeds - Brighouse, or could even been during the 223/224 Leeds - Halifax time |
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Post by stephen01 on Jan 30, 2021 16:28:14 GMT 1
will have been 254 or 255 then. I can't remember what year it was, so may not have been just 254/255, cos we also used to do 225 during the Lances time Leeds - Brighouse, or could even been during the 223/224 Leeds - Halifax time 223/224 had been reduced then hadn't it as at that time as had 226. It could have been the 284 as that was running at the time and was running to Drig at the time as Heckmondwike ran duties on it with the M Reg Olympians & Lances been regulars as well as the odd Ikarus Citybus. |
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Post by MetrolineGA1511 on Jan 30, 2021 18:05:47 GMT 1
I liked Spectras and Lances, and to a lesser extent the Volvo B7TLs.
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Post by Steve Macz403 on Jan 30, 2021 22:43:07 GMT 1
I never got to travel on Olympians N621-23KUA. As they spent most of their lives Selby bound. Would have liked to have travelled on them, as heard they were zippy buses.
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Post by stephen01 on Jan 31, 2021 0:29:28 GMT 1
I never got to travel on Olympians N621-23KUA. As they spent most of their lives Selby bound. Would have liked to have travelled on them, as heard they were zippy buses. i wanted to travel on them when they were at Hecky when then on the Scholes shuttle and when 621 also had a spell at Dewsbury |
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Post by passenger859 on Jan 31, 2021 22:30:26 GMT 1
Have to say that I was a big fan of the recently departed Volvo B9s with the Darwen/Olympus bodywork (1800-1815) and travelled many miles on them over the years on the 110, 202/3 and latterly the 402/3. Think I may have even done the odd 415 on them too.
They were generally comfy and warm and had a great passenger view from the front upstairs. Much more glazing than a Wright Gemini. As a passenger the ‘Volvo’ power could be felt and the gear changes were very smooth.
Still not sure I understand stand the logic of the cross fleet movements that resulted in their transfer out of Yorkshire.
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Post by stephen01 on Jan 31, 2021 22:41:37 GMT 1
Have to say that I was a big fan of the recently departed Volvo B9s with the Darwen/Olympus bodywork (1800-1815) and travelled many miles on them over the years on the 110, 202/3 and latterly the 402/3. Think I may have even done the odd 415 on them too. They were generally comfy and warm and had a great passenger view from the front upstairs. Much more glazing than a Wright Gemini. As a passenger the ‘Volvo’ power could be felt and the gear changes were very smooth. Still not sure I understand stand the logic of the cross fleet movements that resulted in their transfer out of Yorkshire. They truly were brilliant buses. They can handle hills far better then e400s and Geminis anyday. Now the East Lancs Olympus would be a brilliant model to have gotten revived. Even 905 & 906 Tiger had were both as good although granted on Scania Chassis. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 1, 2021 12:36:28 GMT 1
Have to say that I was a big fan of the recently departed Volvo B9s with the Darwen/Olympus bodywork (1800-1815) and travelled many miles on them over the years on the 110, 202/3 and latterly the 402/3. Think I may have even done the odd 415 on them too. They were generally comfy and warm and had a great passenger view from the front upstairs. Much more glazing than a Wright Gemini. As a passenger the ‘Volvo’ power could be felt and the gear changes were very smooth. Still not sure I understand stand the logic of the cross fleet movements that resulted in their transfer out of Yorkshire. Yep I agree with you. Brilliant buses, had them many of times on the 147 and 148/149 and had one of the to myself once. The view from them is superb from the front. The seats was nice and warm as well. They left to go to Leicester because of the Clean Air Zone in Leicester and the Olympus I think had already been converted to Euro 6. |
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Post by passenger859 on Feb 1, 2021 17:30:27 GMT 1
Thanks stephen01 and Davao.
Good to have a thread like this. I travelled a lot more by bus in the pre Arriva days (Caldaire/British Bus) so could definitely comment on the vehicles of that era too.
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