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Post by the110 on Apr 12, 2018 12:37:46 GMT 1
According to a member of management the 415 is to become a Sapphire service from June this year. The current buses will be retained and refurbished.
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Post by dimmock87 on Apr 12, 2018 14:49:21 GMT 1
According to a member of management the 415 is to become a Sapphire service from June this year. The current buses will be retained and refurbished. They phasing out the max branding accross all depots altogether? |
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Post by ajw11239 on Apr 12, 2018 17:44:31 GMT 1
Refurbished... again? I swear it's only been a couple of years since they were last refurbished for MAX.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 12, 2018 18:22:15 GMT 1
According to a member of management the 415 is to become a Sapphire service from June this year. The current buses will be retained and refurbished. They phasing out the max branding accross all depots altogether? That's what I was thinking although anythings possible, the 254/255 buses ordered last year are just branded but the only evidence of MAX branding are on the seats, plus there wasn't really an official MAX launch with them. Michael Windle |
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Post by stevieinselby on Apr 12, 2018 22:33:25 GMT 1
Refurbished... again? I swear it's only been a couple of years since they were last refurbished for MAX. The buses were refurbished to MAX spec at the end of 2014, so getting on for 3½ years ago. I'm surprised if they need doing again yet, although I don't use the 415 much these days so they may be more tired than I remember, but on the other hand if they want to up-spec them to Sapphire standard to give the route a bit of a boost then it makes sense. |
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Post by mutty on Apr 13, 2018 8:03:10 GMT 1
I thought selby had been downgraded which meant that it no longer receives new buses etc, maybe we’ll see Wakefield transfer their sapphire E400’s and them get new ones, as they and Dewsbury need new ones soon to comply with the Leeds emission laws ...
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Post by kevg on Apr 13, 2018 10:34:40 GMT 1
I thought selby had been downgraded which meant that it no longer receives new buses etc, maybe we’ll see Wakefield transfer their sapphire E400’s and them get new ones, as they and Dewsbury need new ones soon to comply with the Leeds emission laws ... I believe the 110 Sapphire E400s are going to Heckmondwike for the 268 / 268A. |
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Post by stevieinselby on Apr 13, 2018 12:12:12 GMT 1
The 415 will need to be Euro VI by 2020 to comply with the Clean Air Zone in York. Given that Arriva don't have a huge number of old buses in Yorkshire at the moment, they are either going to have to go for retrofitting existing buses to make them compliant or some large scale reallocations, using Yorkshire buses to pension off older vehicles elsewhere.
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Post by Penfold on Apr 13, 2018 20:44:02 GMT 1
I thought selby had been downgraded which meant that it no longer receives new buses etc, maybe we’ll see Wakefield transfer their sapphire E400’s and them get new ones, as they and Dewsbury need new ones soon to comply with the Leeds emission laws ... I believe the 110 Sapphire E400s are going to Heckmondwike for the 268 / 268A. No new buses this next 12 months (maybe 18mths Im told) so any fleet transfers are on hold. New ETM's have more priority I believe. Some older buses maybe 'being converted' to ensure they comply to emission standards required by some West and North Yorkshire Councils ! Penfold |
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Post by MetrolineGA1511 on Apr 14, 2018 19:03:31 GMT 1
I have mixed feelings about this. I like the MAX Geminis on route 415 (and other routes in Dewsbury & Newcastle) but am not so keen on the Sapphire Geminis in Cheshire.
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Post by westyorkshirebus on May 10, 2018 21:39:45 GMT 1
A random question. Was is the PVR on the 415.
The timetable would suggest 7, but as there are 9 MAX buses at Selby, I’d suggest 8?
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Post by stevieinselby on May 11, 2018 16:10:37 GMT 1
A random question. Was is the PVR on the 415. The timetable would suggest 7, but as there are 9 MAX buses at Selby, I’d suggest 8? 7 buses needed in normal service, and then a couple of spare vehicles so that they should always be able to cover the route with MAX vehicles - although in practice those buses can get used on other routes when not needed on the 415. |
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Post by passenger859 on May 11, 2018 18:21:41 GMT 1
I've travelled on 415 a few times lately and know the route well. For various reasons I think it is an obvious choice for Sapphire. I'm surprised it wasn't AYL's first, or at least done much earlier, especially as the aim of all the "brands" is to increase patronage.
Very similar route make up (length/urban rural mix) to AWL's service 1 to Chester out of Wrexham depot. That was one of first Sapphires with refurbed Enviro400 vehicles and has been successful, with brand new Sapphire buses last year.
Despite the 9 Geminis it was being operated by Olympus 1812 the other Sunday when I travelled from Piccadilly to Designer Outlet.
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Post by mark51953 on May 12, 2018 10:26:08 GMT 1
Monday was a Sunday service with 3 1800’s out on 415 duties passengers like them better than Gemini’s
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Post by passenger859 on May 12, 2018 12:01:05 GMT 1
Monday was a Sunday service with 3 1800’s out on 415 duties passengers like them better than Gemini’s Hi Mark, as a passenger I do like them better than Geminis. They feel more airy with seemingly bigger glazed areas and I know the upholstered seats are more popular with a lot of passengers too. Also, the 1800s seem to have charging points like I think the Max spec should have. They do on my local max routes. I've only seen 1528 with them on 415. |
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Post by mutty on May 12, 2018 12:06:06 GMT 1
Monday was a Sunday service with 3 1800’s out on 415 duties passengers like them better than Gemini’s Hi Mark, as a passenger I do like them better than Geminis. They feel more airy with seemingly bigger glazed areas and I know the upholstered seats are more popular with a lot of passengers too. Also, the 1800s seem to have charging points like I think the Max spec should have. They do on my local max routes. I've only seen 1528 with them on 415. The 1800 Darwen’s are the best looking buses AY have owned, would be nice to see them given the sapphire treatment |
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Post by mark51953 on May 12, 2018 13:18:10 GMT 1
1528 As charging points but only worked for around a month and never been sorted so just same as 1500-7 now
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Post by the110 on Jun 15, 2018 5:58:33 GMT 1
I’ve been told that due to being short of vehicles because In part buses have been sent to Northern to cover train services the upgrade of the 415 has been postponed until further notice. The 1500’s can’t be sent to be repainted etc as there’s no extra buses to cover.
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Post by cwtransportphotos on Jun 25, 2018 0:23:37 GMT 1
I was told by a driver at Selby that the upgrade of the 415 is not going to happen and that it is just a rumour.
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Post by the110 on Jun 25, 2018 14:37:01 GMT 1
Well I was told by an Arriva manager that it was going to happen, the same manager has told me that it’s now postponed due to a bus shortage. Unless Arriva management are spreading rumours of course 🤔.
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Post by dimmock87 on Jun 25, 2018 18:29:39 GMT 1
Well I was told by an Arriva manager that it was going to happen, the same manager has told me that it’s now postponed due to a bus shortage. Unless Arriva management are spreading rumours of course 🤔. Their is a bus shortage at bi. |
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Post by cwtransportphotos on Jun 25, 2018 19:14:56 GMT 1
Even worse at Selby!
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Post by baldman87 on Jun 25, 2018 22:05:44 GMT 1
Heard today that bi are getting new buses for the 110 at some point later on in the year so some possible movements around the depots for the current 110 sapphires? |
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Post by westyorkshirebus on Jun 25, 2018 22:26:14 GMT 1
Heard from who?
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Post by Penfold on Jun 26, 2018 10:45:27 GMT 1
Heard today that bi are getting new buses for the 110 at some point later on in the year so some possible movements around the depots for the current 110 sapphires? No new buses this year Ive been told from an official source ! Penfold |
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