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Post by danielnew on Mar 2, 2011 11:07:57 GMT 1
I think the priority will be to invest in the group's other fleets where they have fallen much further behind on fleet replacement. Arriva The Shires is due to get a substantial portion of the single deckers.
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Post by Jack on Mar 2, 2011 11:24:52 GMT 1
I think the priority will be to invest in the group's other fleets where they have fallen much further behind on fleet replacement. Arriva The Shires is due to get a substantial portion of the single deckers. Merseyside as well, Merseytravel don't allow buses over 15 years old into bus stations. Which means some the of the earlier Scania low floors and B10s at Green Lane will have to go. |
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Post by timelesstable on Mar 2, 2011 12:16:23 GMT 1
I think the priority will be to invest in the group's other fleets where they have fallen much further behind on fleet replacement. Arriva The Shires is due to get a substantial portion of the single deckers. Merseyside as well, Merseytravel don't allow buses over 15 years old into bus stations. Which means some the of the earlier Scania low floors and B10s at Green Lane will have to go. If Metro applied that 15 year rule it would cause problems for a good number of the local operators. |
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Post by timelesstable on Mar 2, 2011 12:20:16 GMT 1
I think the priority will be to invest in the group's other fleets where they have fallen much further behind on fleet replacement. Arriva The Shires is due to get a substantial portion of the single deckers. Arriva only order new buses where their is a sound business case to justify the cost of the capital investment. Hence new buses will continue to appear for the 110 in particular on a regular basis. |
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Post by Jack on Mar 2, 2011 12:37:09 GMT 1
I don't know how many buses that will be released from London during tender renewals and losses will most likely go onto services that can't justify the capital investment in new vehicles.
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Post by holland1987 on Mar 2, 2011 15:31:02 GMT 1
There is no point in a 15yr rule. Many buses which are 15+ years can still go a decent job.
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Post by timelesstable on Mar 2, 2011 16:08:39 GMT 1
There is no point in a 15yr rule. Many buses which are 15+ years can still go a decent job. Ask a Mum with a pram or someone in a wheelchair, don't think they will agree with you |
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Post by holland1987 on Mar 2, 2011 16:17:57 GMT 1
Well a 1994 Liverpool Neoplan is 17yrs old and that is low floor and a York's ex Scania's are 16 years old now.
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Post by timelesstable on Mar 2, 2011 16:46:14 GMT 1
Well a 1994 Liverpool Neoplan is 17yrs old and that is low floor and a York's ex Scania's are 16 years old now. But all the older Arriva Yorkshire ones are not low floor. Long way to come from Liverpool |
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Post by Jamie on Mar 2, 2011 17:26:31 GMT 1
Well a 1994 Liverpool Neoplan is 17yrs old and that is low floor and a York's ex Scania's are 16 years old now. But all the older Arriva Yorkshire ones are not low floor. Long way to come from Liverpool I agree look at Arriva Yorkshire we have 3 N Volvo Olympians, T/V reg'd Spectra's, R Ikarus's all stepped..... even as much as the P---VUA's are Low Floor they don't match DDA Requirements as they have ramps. |
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Post by Burnside on Mar 2, 2011 22:17:37 GMT 1
There is no point in a 15yr rule. Many buses which are 15+ years can still go a decent job. Ask a Mum with a pram or someone in a wheelchair, don't think they will agree with you To be fair it is only within the last few years that buggy spaces and wheelchair accesibility has been so important a requirement. I agree that buses over 15 years of age can still have plenty of life left and i'm sure that plenty of Solo's and B7RLE's around in a decade. |
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Post by Matty on Mar 2, 2011 22:30:47 GMT 1
I've noticed older mum's just fold prams up & get the kids on, but young mum's always complain to drivers "Oh why do you have to bring these buses all the time" I had to get out of my pram to get on Fleetlines and Volvo Olympians, so why does everyone complain nowadays! I can understand about wheelchair passengers, but mum's that can't fold a pram up is beyond disbelief.
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Post by kendall17 on Mar 2, 2011 22:44:46 GMT 1
so why does everyone complain nowadays!. Because Low Floor vehicles are readily available? They're used to the easier option. |
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Post by driver6540 on Mar 2, 2011 22:56:01 GMT 1
I've noticed older mum's just fold prams up & get the kids on, but young mum's always complain to drivers "Oh why do you have to bring these buses all the time" I had to get out of my pram to get on Fleetlines and Volvo Olympians, so why does everyone complain nowadays! I can understand about wheelchair passengers, but mum's that can't fold a pram up is beyond disbelief. Yup, youre spot on with that observation. |
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Post by stevieinselby on Mar 2, 2011 23:31:04 GMT 1
There is no point in a 15yr rule. Many buses which are 15+ years can still go a decent job. Ask a Mum with a pram or someone in a wheelchair, don't think they will agree with you That's an issue that's very specific to here-and-now. Ten years ago, it wasn't an issue. In ten years' time, it won't be an issue. It's only now that we have that major divide between 15+ year old buses that are step entrance and <12 year old buses that are low floor, with the few years between having some and some. But that's about pre-1996 and post-1998, not about +/- 15 years old. |
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Post by T101VWU on Mar 3, 2011 22:49:17 GMT 1
I've noticed older mum's just fold prams up & get the kids on, but young mum's always complain to drivers "Oh why do you have to bring these buses all the time" I had to get out of my pram to get on Fleetlines and Volvo Olympians, so why does everyone complain nowadays! I can understand about wheelchair passengers, but mum's that can't fold a pram up is beyond disbelief. Yup, youre spot on with that observation. Aye plenty of times ive been on a bus & its taken up to 10 mins in some cases for people to get the kids out of buggs fold it up & get buggy & kid onto bus as well as then giving the driver grief! |
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