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Post by moorside on Sept 21, 2022 23:21:19 GMT 1
Service 586 being cut back from hourly to two-hourly means that the last bus from Halifax to Ripponden will now be at 9.20 pm: yet another example of a community where working-age residents either need their own transport or have to rely on taxis / lifts to get to and from shift work, or to have much of a social life in the evenings. I can't see £2 maximum fares doing much good: pensioners already have free travel, and the reduced services are not great for anything beyond daytime shopping trips or possibly those with 9-5 jobs.
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Post by leeds rider on Sept 22, 2022 13:52:30 GMT 1
1 1A 1B N1 West Park / Headingley Campus • Leeds • BeestonSun 2 October 2022 Operated by First Revised timetables will be introduced for services 1 1B N1 Services 1A will be withdrawn. To the best of my knowledge, the 1A number hasn't been used since the 8 was split off to serve Holt Park and the 1 terminated at West Park Ring Road instead.
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Post by leeds rider on Sept 22, 2022 14:46:37 GMT 1
Bit of a messy new registration from First. Possibly a merging of the 615/616/619 and Bradford-Fagley section of the 686/687. PB0000815/1023 Registered FIRST WEST YORKSHIRE LTD Route: Bradford Interchange, Bradford Hall Ings to (602) Manor Road Airedal. (603) Smith Lane Conistone Grove, (604) Fagley via 602 VIA Saffron Drive, 603 VIA Allerton Road Four Lane Ends, 604 Via Undercliffe Lane Service number: 602 (603, 604) Service type: Normal Stopping Effective date: 02 Oct 2022 Monday - Sunday I HAVE already posted the changes, no idea what the 602 (603, 604) is all about though??? That registration does look a bit messy - the 604 is in completely the opposite direction to the other two! The 602 (603, 604) stuff is telling you the registered route numbers and which goes where - 602 via Saffron Drive to Manor Road Airedale, 603 via Allerton Road Four Lane Ends to Smith Lane Conistone Grove, and 604 via Undercliffe Lane to Fagley. No sign of these in the latest Metro changes bulletin, though, so maybe it's one that's not going ahead after the funding reprieve?
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Post by deerfold on Sept 22, 2022 18:36:06 GMT 1
Service 586 being cut back from hourly to two-hourly means that the last bus from Halifax to Ripponden will now be at 9.20 pm: yet another example of a community where working-age residents either need their own transport or have to rely on taxis / lifts to get to and from shift work, or to have much of a social life in the evenings. I can't see £2 maximum fares doing much good: pensioners already have free travel, and the reduced services are not great for anything beyond daytime shopping trips or possibly those with 9-5 jobs. It's only 20 years ago that there were 3 buses an hour between Rishworth and Halifax and only 10 since the last bus to Commons was the last bus out of Halifax to anywhere (2320). Even when I did an office job in Halifax I used to finish at 1630 or 1730 depending on the day of the week - 50 minutes or 110 minutes to get to the bus stop now.
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Post by worldsbestfisherman on Sept 22, 2022 23:54:31 GMT 1
I haven't posted on here for a while but First are to be congratulated on their ability to really frustrate the travelling public.In my area,the 615 Bradford to Cottingley is reduced from half hourly to hourly. The last 616 leaving Bradford to Eldwick is at the ridiculously early time of 2150. The combined 617/618 service is a joke. This route should use double deck vehicles during the day in my opinion,but I've seen an awful lot of Streetlites on that route which is insane considering it goes via the Bradford Royal Infirmary.
During the last round of cuts I emailed my local MP,Naz Shah,of which I am still waiting for a reply. I emailed the mayor,but my concerns were passed onto someone at the WYCA,of which the reply was nothing short of sterile and bland. Finally I emailed First. Again a sterile and bland reply. When it comes to actual timetable information it seems the First and Metro websites contain different times,leaving me scratching my head as to which is the correct timetable.
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Post by 77syk7 on Sept 24, 2022 16:33:47 GMT 1
The proposed withdrawal of the 539 Halifax to Stainland run by First is probably not going to receive too many complaints - this route has been 'hanging by a thread' for some time. Stainland, however is a sizeable community and just one bus per hour (537) to West Vale and Halifax does not seem to me sufficient during the daytime. They are also connected to Huddersfield , Ripponden & Hebden Bridge by the 901. The section of road between Little Bradley and Holywell Green will therefore not be served (admittedly there are few houses). A tram service was introduced in 1921 by Halifax Corporation connecting Stainland to Halifax direct via West Vale. Few roads which originally had services operating 100 years ago have no service at all. Maybe divert the E3 via Holywell Green?
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Post by deerfold on Sept 24, 2022 18:22:09 GMT 1
The proposed withdrawal of the 539 Halifax to Stainland run by First is probably not going to receive too many complaints - this route has been 'hanging by a thread' for some time. Stainland, however is a sizeable community and just one bus per hour (537) to West Vale and Halifax does not seem to me sufficient during the daytime. They are also connected to Huddersfield , Ripponden & Hebden Bridge by the 901. The section of road between Little Bradley and Holywell Green will therefore not be served (admittedly there are few houses). A tram service was introduced in 1921 by Halifax Corporation connecting Stainland to Halifax direct via West Vale. Few roads which originally had services operating 100 years ago have no service at all. Maybe divert the E3 via Holywell Green? The 537 does not serve West Vale. It goes to Elland than takes the bypass to Halifax.
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Post by Bradford Traveller on Sept 24, 2022 21:55:50 GMT 1
I HAVE already posted the changes, no idea what the 602 (603, 604) is all about though??? That registration does look a bit messy - the 604 is in completely the opposite direction to the other two! The 602 (603, 604) stuff is telling you the registered route numbers and which goes where - 602 via Saffron Drive to Manor Road Airedale, 603 via Allerton Road Four Lane Ends to Smith Lane Conistone Grove, and 604 via Undercliffe Lane to Fagley. No sign of these in the latest Metro changes bulletin, though, so maybe it's one that's not going ahead after the funding reprieve? Yes I know what the registration means, just don't know why it was sent in. 602 is the daytime 615, 603 Coniston Grove is a timing point on the 680 also daytime, so could've been a proposed change to the routes via Sandy Lane?
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Post by moorside on Sept 25, 2022 0:10:06 GMT 1
The proposed withdrawal of the 539 Halifax to Stainland run by First is probably not going to receive too many complaints - this route has been 'hanging by a thread' for some time. Stainland, however is a sizeable community and just one bus per hour (537) to West Vale and Halifax does not seem to me sufficient during the daytime. They are also connected to Huddersfield , Ripponden & Hebden Bridge by the 901. The section of road between Little Bradley and Holywell Green will therefore not be served (admittedly there are few houses). A tram service was introduced in 1921 by Halifax Corporation connecting Stainland to Halifax direct via West Vale. Few roads which originally had services operating 100 years ago have no service at all. Maybe divert the E3 via Holywell Green? And before the tram there was the train: in the 1920s 16 services each way between Halifax, West Vale and Stainland, according to Wikipedia. The trams killed off the railway passenger service which finished in 1929, having started in 1875. I suppose anybody travelling from Stainland to West Vale after 3rd October can change in Elland onto the 503, but the journey will take longer today than it did 100 years ago.
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Post by 77syk7 on Sept 25, 2022 9:45:49 GMT 1
Thanks 'deerfold' for pointing out my errors - the 537 does indeed go via Elland and not West Vale and on Mon-Sat evenings, the 536 does a couple of journeys from Hudderfield and 1 journey from Halifax - 2 hourly Sunday day. Interesting information from 'moorside' and once again proves how communications have worsened considerably. I would still think there is scope for a Stainland - West Vale service during the Mon-Sat daytimes.
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Post by leeds rider on Sept 26, 2022 13:19:20 GMT 1
That registration does look a bit messy - the 604 is in completely the opposite direction to the other two! The 602 (603, 604) stuff is telling you the registered route numbers and which goes where - 602 via Saffron Drive to Manor Road Airedale, 603 via Allerton Road Four Lane Ends to Smith Lane Conistone Grove, and 604 via Undercliffe Lane to Fagley. No sign of these in the latest Metro changes bulletin, though, so maybe it's one that's not going ahead after the funding reprieve? Yes I know what the registration means, just don't know why it was sent in. 602 is the daytime 615, 603 Coniston Grove is a timing point on the 680 also daytime, so could've been a proposed change to the routes via Sandy Lane? Oh, apologies, my bad - I misinterpreted your comment. As there's no sign of these in the latest list of changes, it's more than likely a proposed service reduction that's been abandoned (or could be an admin error, I guess...?).
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Post by SF07 on Sept 26, 2022 19:34:53 GMT 1
Updated changes on Metro: 46 47 47A Leeds • Middleton • Morley • White Rose CentreSun 2 October 2022 Operated by First Service 46 will be withdrawn. Minor timetable changes will be introduced for service 47. The 47A will be withdrawn and replaced with 48A with a slightly different route. 48 48A Leeds • Wigton Moor • White Rose Centre • MorleySun 2 October 2022 Operated by First Service 48 is extended to Morley to maintain two buses per hour in place of the withdrawn service 46. Service 48A replaces the withdrawn 47A with slight amendments to the Monday to Friday journey and route. wymetro.com/media/8819/public-transport-changes-3-oct-2022-13302.pdf
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Post by edmundwells on Sept 27, 2022 22:00:59 GMT 1
From next week the newly-shortened 11A (Crossgates-Scholes-Seacroft only) will be operated out of Hunslet rather than Bramley.
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Post by leeds rider on Sept 28, 2022 9:58:00 GMT 1
Yes I know what the registration means, just don't know why it was sent in. 602 is the daytime 615, 603 Coniston Grove is a timing point on the 680 also daytime, so could've been a proposed change to the routes via Sandy Lane? Oh, apologies, my bad - I misinterpreted your comment. As there's no sign of these in the latest list of changes, it's more than likely a proposed service reduction that's been abandoned (or could be an admin error, I guess...?). Oh, look - this registration has now been cancelled with the note "new app shouldn't have been processed due to DfT funding u-Turn"!
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Post by hstjohnny on Sept 29, 2022 13:12:14 GMT 1
Anyone heard anything on who's running the 11 from the 3rd?
4 days away and No confirmation on the new operator?
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Post by andyk4050 on Sept 29, 2022 13:51:53 GMT 1
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Post by stephen01 on Sept 29, 2022 14:49:16 GMT 1
that explains the quick change with the 61.
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Post by hlo281 on Sept 29, 2022 17:53:13 GMT 1
Really disappointed to see the 539 axed. Lived in Stainland virtually my whole life up to a year ago and both this and the 537 were always well used at all times of the day, a lot more than my local routes now (561/2), so it's a bit bizarre. Surprised they haven't rerouted the 537 via Saddleworth Road and West Vale instead of Elland Bridge to compensate a little bit.
An hourly service with no daytime service to West Vale or the doctor's surgery is really quite appalling and local residents are up in arms about it - a petition's been set up by local councillors which has gathered a lot of signatures already. There've been regular calls over the past decade to extend it to Outlane like it used to do, to no avail, so this is a big kick in the teeth for the community.
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Post by joseph on Sept 29, 2022 18:30:36 GMT 1
One what's slipped the net until I saw it just now, service A1 will see a reduced timetable owing to the on going driver shortage, aka the X98/9 needs drivers and these will be taken from the A1 lol
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Post by Burnside on Sept 29, 2022 20:38:54 GMT 1
Take it Connexionsbuses have no plan to reinstate the Ilkley section of the X52 then? Seems funny that they cut it months ago citing driver shortages, but have since taken on the 61 and now the 11 instead.
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Post by kommie123 on Sept 30, 2022 7:50:31 GMT 1
According to the new 254 timetable on metros website, the 254A is still running on an evening! Surely thats wrong but a stupid error considering it covers where people lost their buses.
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Post by stephen01 on Sept 30, 2022 8:49:54 GMT 1
According to the new 254 timetable on metros website, the 254A is still running on an evening! Surely thats wrong but a stupid error considering it covers where people lost their buses. it's wrong as arriva are saying the trips for 254A are covered by the evening sections of 200, 250 & 254.
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Post by SCH117X on Sept 30, 2022 19:13:16 GMT 1
Take it Connexionsbuses have no plan to reinstate the Ilkley section of the X52 then? nor a number of other services they chopped although commercially probably marginal and why run them when someone paying you.
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Post by stephen01 on Oct 1, 2022 13:35:22 GMT 1
No mention of who's got JF1 (542 as was) yet the other 3 kirklees school routes been dripped (HG1, WM1 & WM2) all have alternatives.
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Post by joseph on Oct 1, 2022 14:58:11 GMT 1
Yorkshire Travel have announced the 61 and 61A they take over from Monday will be free to use throughout October
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