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Post by LukePA on Aug 23, 2022 20:06:00 GMT 1
From BusTimes.org
Arriva have plenty of route and time changes
Cancellation on the following services:
153 - Rothwell to Castleford
X80 - Normanton to Leeds
X17 - Netherton to Leeds
408 & 409 - Pontefract to Doncaster
X60 - Leeds to Castleford
GC1 - Waterloo to Greenhead College
405 - Doncaster to Selby
HG1 Heckmondwike Grammar School
197 - Crofton to South Elmsall
New Services:
250 - Dewsbury to Heckomdwike
SW3 - Knottingley to St Wilfred’s
104 - Wakefield to Alverthorpe
51 - Norton to Doncaster
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Post by dlspotter on Aug 23, 2022 20:42:45 GMT 1
From BusTimes.org Arriva have plenty of route and time changes Cancellation on the following services: 153 - Rothwell to Castleford X80 - Normanton to Leeds X17 - Netherton to Leeds 408 & 409 - Pontefract to Doncaster X60 - Leeds to Castleford GC1 - Waterloo to Greenhead College 405 - Doncaster to Selby HG1 Heckmondwike Grammar School 197 - Crofton to South Elmsall New Services: 250 - Dewsbury to Heckomdwike SW3 - Knottingley to St Wilfred’s 104 - Wakefield to Alverthorpe 51 - Norton to Doncaster Where was this found on bustimes? I just went on and can't find this information Thanks |
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Post by mattb7tl on Aug 23, 2022 20:54:34 GMT 1
There's the link, I've found that registrations recorded on bustimes are very accurate. I don't think they can be edited by the community and come directly from government bus registration data. bustimes.org/licences/PB0000582 |
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Post by joseph on Aug 23, 2022 21:00:52 GMT 1
I bet the 153 will be covered by an extended 21 and the new 250 will be the 254 from Heckmondwike to Dewsbury on a lower frequency with the 254 curtailed. There are some possibly interesting route changes happening such as the 140/1.
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Post by peter44 on Aug 23, 2022 21:05:19 GMT 1
From BusTimes.org Arriva have plenty of route and time changes Cancellation on the following services: 153 - Rothwell to Castleford X80 - Normanton to Leeds X17 - Netherton to Leeds 408 & 409 - Pontefract to Doncaster X60 - Leeds to Castleford GC1 - Waterloo to Greenhead College 405 - Doncaster to Selby HG1 Heckmondwike Grammar School 197 - Crofton to South Elmsall New Services: 250 - Dewsbury to Heckomdwike SW3 - Knottingley to St Wilfred’s 104 - Wakefield to Alverthorpe 51 - Norton to Doncaster There's a lot of services changing: Also cancelled: WM1, WM2 and JF1 Other new services: KH1 Wakefield to Kettlethorpe Academy, OG1 Stanley Roy to Outwood Grange, RA1 Leeds to Rodillian Academy Amended Timetable: 110, 231/232, 230, 444/446, SW2, SW8, 1, 2, 3, 5, 8, 135/136, 174/175, 156, 281, 111, 195/196, 186, 268, WA1, WF1, 202/203, 283, 401, 106, 496, 626, 147, 102, WA2, 280, 189, TK1/TK2, 200/201, 493, 42, 616, 626 Amended Route and Timetable: 21/22, 254/255, 118, 64, 163/166, 261, 148/149, OG1/2/3, 271, 229, 212, 140/141, R7 (now OA1), 126, 167/168, 107/108, 415, 425/427, 164, 122, 228, 476, 105, |
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Post by westyorkshirebus on Aug 23, 2022 21:11:09 GMT 1
It looks to me to be basically every single service has been re registered from that date
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Post by deerfold on Aug 23, 2022 21:15:38 GMT 1
Are we not using the other October service change thread?
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Post by ratty on Aug 23, 2022 21:34:39 GMT 1
Don't forget there will be 2 lots of service changes in October, due to recent events. Isn't the 3rd of October the extra one?
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Post by peter44 on Aug 23, 2022 21:34:48 GMT 1
I bet the 153 will be covered by an extended 21 and the new 250 will be the 254 from Heckmondwike to Dewsbury on a lower frequency with the 254 curtailed. There are some possibly interesting route changes happening such as the 140/1. It says in the registration 153 will be covered by an extended 22 |
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Post by yorkslad on Aug 23, 2022 21:50:07 GMT 1
How many of those registrations were put in on the assumption that the Bus Recovery Grant would be ending around 2 October? Now that it's being extended a further six months, will those changes and deregistrations themselves be deregistered?
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Post by stephen01 on Aug 23, 2022 21:59:13 GMT 1
250 Dewsbury to Heckmondwike *New Service
Cleckheaton to Brighouse section of 228 will become 260
212 Alverthorpe shorts reverting back to 104
R7 school bus re-numbered OA1
New route is 51 Norton to Doncaster
271 Cleckheaton to Batley is getting a route change as well as timetable
261 Cleckheaton to Huddersfield is getting a route change as well as timetable
118 is down for a route & timetable change
254/255 is down for a route change
KH1 is a new school Service
153, X17, X80, 408/409, X60, GC1, 405, HG1, WM1, WM2, JF1 & 197 all cancelled.
The OG1 to Outwood Academy is NOT a new service, it's just got it's own registration
Could the Heckmondwike changes also been building work is starting on changing the hub to a bus station? Or could the 250 & 260 for Metro funded segments e.g 250 is actually the evening 254A?
We wont know for definite until September when the docs come out.
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Post by stephen01 on Aug 23, 2022 22:00:37 GMT 1
It looks to me to be basically every single service has been re registered from that date No none have only OG1 on it's own registration. See my list |
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Post by Tom on Aug 23, 2022 22:33:21 GMT 1
250 Dewsbury to Heckmondwike *New Service Cleckheaton to Brighouse section of 228 will become 260 212 Alverthorpe shorts reverting back to 104 R7 school bus re-numbered OA1 New route is 51 Norton to Doncaster 271 Cleckheaton to Batley is getting a route change as well as timetable 261 Cleckheaton to Huddersfield is getting a route change as well as timetable 118 is down for a route & timetable change 254/255 is down for a route change KH1 is a new school Service 153, X17, X80, 408/409, X60, GC1, 405, HG1, WM1, WM2, JF1 & 197 all cancelled. The OG1 to Outwood Academy is NOT a new service, it's just got it's own registration Could the Heckmondwike changes also been building work is starting on changing the hub to a bus station? Or could the 250 & 260 for Metro funded segments e.g 250 is actually the evening 254A? We wont know for definite until September when the docs come out. Here's hoping those 118 changes are re-instatement of the full route on Sundays and re-instatement of the tendered journeys that aren't running after 7pm. |
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Post by peteleeds on Aug 24, 2022 6:58:42 GMT 1
250 Dewsbury to Heckmondwike *New Service Cleckheaton to Brighouse section of 228 will become 260 212 Alverthorpe shorts reverting back to 104 R7 school bus re-numbered OA1 New route is 51 Norton to Doncaster 271 Cleckheaton to Batley is getting a route change as well as timetable 261 Cleckheaton to Huddersfield is getting a route change as well as timetable 118 is down for a route & timetable change 254/255 is down for a route change KH1 is a new school Service 153, X17, X80, 408/409, X60, GC1, 405, HG1, WM1, WM2, JF1 & 197 all cancelled. The OG1 to Outwood Academy is NOT a new service, it's just got it's own registration Could the Heckmondwike changes also been building work is starting on changing the hub to a bus station? Or could the 250 & 260 for Metro funded segments e.g 250 is actually the evening 254A? We wont know for definite until September when the docs come out. Here's hoping those 118 changes are re-instatement of the full route on Sundays and re-instatement of the tendered journeys that aren't running after 7pm. The reg says Wakefield to white rose so wondering if they going to perm cut the leeds to white rose section and expect people to change onto 200/1/2/3 to travel into leeds |
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Post by jst on Aug 24, 2022 11:10:54 GMT 1
Surprised at the X60 cancellation, the morning trips booked for single deckers are often standing room only!
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Post by Tom on Aug 24, 2022 17:25:58 GMT 1
Here's hoping those 118 changes are re-instatement of the full route on Sundays and re-instatement of the tendered journeys that aren't running after 7pm. The reg says Wakefield to white rose so wondering if they going to perm cut the leeds to white rose section and expect people to change onto 200/1/2/3 to travel into leeds ah sugar, understandable, but still disappointing, as it's a loss for a direct bus to Leeds for some, including me. |
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Post by peter44 on Aug 29, 2022 10:32:34 GMT 1
Changes now on BusTimes for First
First Leeds
11/11A: Withdrawn
14: Revised timetable and route (X14 withdrawn)
15: Timetable Changes
19/19A: Revised route and amended timetable
27: Revised timetable with new route 27A covering the section of withdrawn 33 between Rawden Crossroads and Guiseley
33: Revised to operate between Leeds and Horsforth only - the section between Rawden Crossroads and Guiseley will be covered by new route 27A and 34, timetable changes
46/47/47A: Withdrawn
55/55C: Withdrawn
64: Withdrawn
74: Will terminate at Middleton Sharp House
75: Terminus moved to Sharp House to cover withdrawn section of 74 and timetable changes
86/87: Withdrawn
X26/X27: Withdrawn
X84: Withdrawn between Otley and Ilkley
85: Withdrawn
91: Timetable Change
X98/99: Withdrawn
First Huddersfield
181: Timetable Changes
183: Will terminate at Marsden Fall Lane
185: Timetable Changes
186: Withdrawn
308: Withdrawn between Bradshaw Road and (it says Honley but I assume means Holmfirth)
310: Timetable Changes
314: Timetable Changes
323: Withdrawn
324: Minor timetable revision
327/327A/360: Withdrawn
342: Withdrawn
356: Revised timetable
387: Timetable Changes
First Halifax
508: Revised route and timetable
509-513: 509/513 withdrawn, 510/11/12: Timetable Change and Re-route
521/22/23: Revised timetable
539: Withdrawn
540/1/2: 540 is a new route, 541 withdrawn, 542 amended route and timetable
548: Withdrawn
549: Timetable amendments
571: Withdrawn
586: Timetable Revision
First Bradford:
256: First journeys withdrawn (presumably re-contracted)
610: Withdrawn
611: Withdrawn
612/13/14: Timetable and route changes
615: Withdrawn
616/619: Withdrawn
630: Timetable Changes
633: Timetable Changes
671: Withdrawn
686: Timetable Changes
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Post by deerfold on Aug 29, 2022 10:40:04 GMT 1
There's some pretty big changes there.
Otley-Ilkey on the X84 is the one that'll affect me most - with the 62, 64 and X52 no longer running between them there'll just be the circuitous hourly 962 with no early, late or Sunday service.
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Post by joseph on Aug 29, 2022 11:20:27 GMT 1
No wonder they kept quiet about the full details of what services were on the hit list, that's serious destruction unless some are covered, Cottingley goes from having 4 buses an hour to none. Ok there is the train, but that too is hourly and may soon disappear when the station closes. Who'd have thought Ilkley would no longer have a bus connection to Leeds! There is the train, but that's expensive compared to the bus, especially if you have a pre-paid weekly or longer ticket and the X84 has always been well used to/from Ilkley. Next thing we'll see is the X84 totally replaced by an extension of the 8, or better still the 6 lol! Don't get the change to the 74/5, can't see if they need to split them (rather than the current through running with a break arrangement) why they can't do it at Asda as it'll make no difference resource wise. I can see the 19 re-routed to cover the X26/7 with a half hourly service via Cross Gates like the X26 leaving the 19A to cover Colton/Whitkirk half hourly.
Many parts of Bradford look to see no services at all, e.g. with the withdrawal of the 615/6/9 meaning Harden/Wilsden sees no bus to Bradford.
Are we going to see something really daft with the 508 as can't think what it's new route would be, could it be diverted via Rodley, Bramley, Armley and Holbeck to Hunslet then Leeds to cover the 86? Might sound daft but we've seen it diverted via Kirkstall to cover the 15 which you'd never think of, and First are no stranger to running really long winding services. Yes some direct links will be lost, e.g. Farsley to Kirkstall, but it does mean links between major places are still covered because for example lower Beeston (Beeston Hill/Dewsbury Road) residents won't be too happy their link to Hunslet is cut.
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Post by WYBS on Aug 29, 2022 11:24:29 GMT 1
Good God!
I've always been quite pro-privatisation, but after reading this I'm fully for regulation. How can a bus company fail so badly in a city with no mass transit? The management aren't fit to run a bath. Absolute disgrace for the people who rely on these services. Hopefully Metro can step in and soften the blow.
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Post by steve440 on Aug 29, 2022 11:38:50 GMT 1
Tracy will be tearing her hair out! What happened to the extension of bus support grant?
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Post by WYBS on Aug 29, 2022 11:52:01 GMT 1
I notice the network manager at First is the same person who was responsible for that absolutely great next stop announcement system. 'tTtHhE nNeExXtT S-S-StToOpP iS DewWwsSsBuUrRy RoOaAd'. What a company!
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Post by stephen01 on Aug 29, 2022 11:59:12 GMT 1
Can see First's 256 duties also going TLC
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Post by stephen01 on Aug 29, 2022 12:06:27 GMT 1
Tracy will be tearing her hair out! What happened to the extension of bus support grant? These will have been the ones getting axed prior the announcement the funding was been extended till March so by the time it all came about obviously they can't reverse the changes. |
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Post by Username on Aug 29, 2022 12:12:46 GMT 1
Customers need the 616/9 because Harden and Wilsden will be left with a poor service of the K4.
The X84 was the only remaining fast connection between Leeds and Otley. I do think the Otley and Ilkley will be replaced by the services 62/64.
The 571 could likely be replaced by Transdev at the minute, with out a doubt Transdev will be fast to jump on to that service as it connects Team Pennine with the rest of the Transdev network.
The X98/9 if rumours are true Transdev will be doing SKY Class buses to Wetherby.
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