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Post by Deleted on Jul 2, 2022 20:05:11 GMT 1
Think the 14 or 15 does too If you don't want to wait for the 14, which runs half hourly during the day and hourly eve/sun then the more frequent 5 runs quite close to Amazon on the Halton Moor Road side of the industrial estate, Farnell Parts is the first big warehouse you'll see followed shortly after by Amazon. The drivers won't be all that helpful however and tell you they don't serve it, however it's only a 5 minute walk from the 5 terminus to the estate and a couple minutes more from where the estate starts off Halton Moor Road to Amazon. Thank you both for your advice. I would probably catch CityZap to Amazon then walk to Halton Moor for route 5 back into Leeds. Another option (probably safer than Halton Moor) is from where the Cityzap drops you off,cross over the road (theres a crossing just before the roundabout) & walk down to Temple Green P&R for a bus back to Leeds (about a 5 minute walk)
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Post by Father Dougal McGuire on Jul 2, 2022 22:19:24 GMT 1
I would make some changes to the Todmorden Bus routes with First. I would make buses every 10 minutes a long the Calder Valley again. The buses will be every 10 minutes to Hebden Bridge, Every 15 minutes to Todmorden and then every roughly 15-30 minutes between Todmorden and Rochdale/Burnley. Service 589 will be reintroduced running the existing route apart from some slight alterings of the route. It will serve Harp Hill Road and then along the normal route to Red Lees Road and then the service can run straight up Burnley Road avoiding Red Lees and Bunshaw down Todmorden Road into Burnley. Where is Harp Hill Road? No business for First down Towneley hence the route over the tops to serve Pike Hill etc. Only change that needs to happen on the Valley is to bring it back onto it's previous timetable rather than what it is now.
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Post by deerfold on Jul 3, 2022 17:36:12 GMT 1
There's lots of suggestions in this thread, but most I read and wonder why you're suggesting it.
It'd be a lot more interesting to see what problems people think their suggestions will help solve, or which new journey opportunities they think people will use them for.
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Post by mattb7tl on Jul 31, 2022 1:54:57 GMT 1
The 370's and the 328 starting from the bus station in BOTH directions! It's such a weird choice to leave these routes outside? They're definitely the most popular routes in Huddersfield, yet they get left outside during the rain and heat?
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Post by driver6540 on Jul 31, 2022 22:32:41 GMT 1
The 370's and the 328 starting from the bus station in BOTH directions! It's such a weird choice to leave these routes outside? They're definitely the most popular routes in Huddersfield, yet they get left outside during the rain and heat? Totally agree with you there. Often thought that myself.
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Post by Username on Aug 3, 2022 18:40:45 GMT 1
A few tweeks to the X3 Halifax - Elland - Ainley Top - Huddersfield express bus I mentioned.
I would run this bus service once the construction works on the A629 are finished with the brand new A6026 roundabout and new bridge completed as well as when the new Halifax Bus Station opens.
Towards Huddersfield Bus Station: From Halifax Bus Station via Winding Road, Charles Street, Square Road, Church Street, South Parade, Shay Syke, Shaw Hill, Huddersfield Road, Salterhebble Hill, Huddersfield Road, Elland Wood Bottom, Halifax Road, Calderdale Way, Elland Riogres Link, Briggate, Huddersfield Road, Southgate Roundabout, Huddersfield Road, Calderdale Way, Ainley Top, Halifax Road, Edgerton Road, and then the bus will turn onto Luther Place running down Glebb Street onto the A640 and into Huddersfield Bus Station to skip out traffic.
Towards Halifax, the bus will take pretty much the same route however it will keep running down Calderdale Way onto Elland Riogres Link and then to the roundabout and down Huddersfield Road then Briggate onto Elland Bridge and then the A629.
Limited stop service: The bus will run non stop between Halifax Bus Station and Salterhebble Primary school and then serve all bus stops to Calderdale Way just before Ainley Top Roundabout and then the bus will run non stop in to Huddersfield Town Centre.
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Post by Username on Aug 8, 2022 23:59:19 GMT 1
Since the CityZap now runs hourly leaving a few spare buses, I would exstend the service to Huddersfield Bus Station along the M621 and M62 and then coming off at Ainley Top down Halifax Road into Huddersfield Bus Station.
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Post by deerfold on Aug 9, 2022 8:21:39 GMT 1
Since the CityZap now runs hourly leaving a few spare buses, I would exstend the service to Huddersfield Bus Station along the M621 and M62 and then coming off at Ainley Top down Halifax Road into Huddersfield Bus Station. It's only running hourly because of a lack of drivers.
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Post by Username on Aug 9, 2022 20:49:16 GMT 1
I would get Gemini 2764 with Team Pennine into Pink Team Pennine livery to run on a peak time fast DenbyDarts possibly could be called Denby Express. I would run it with a two peak journeys heading from Denby Dale to Huddersfield and vice versa (one morning and one evening). I would run it from Huddersfield Bus Station into Waterloo along the current route of D1 and then from Waterloo the service would run straight into Kirkburton via North Road and Huddersfield Road, then the service runs into Skelmanthorpe to turn down Cumberworth Lane into Denby Dale. Between Huddersfield and Waterloo the bus will run non stop only serving Waterloo Depot and Waterloo Morrisons between.
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Post by Username on Aug 21, 2022 23:19:52 GMT 1
I would withdrawn the 539 between Halifax and Stainland and then make the service half hourly onto Huddersfield with 1 bus an hour via West Vale and Oakes as well as one bus an hour via Elland and Stainland as services 536/7. I would also run them with Transdev Team Pennine to create better links between the two Team Pennine empires.
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Post by deerfold on Aug 22, 2022 9:12:15 GMT 1
I would withdrawn the 539 between Halifax and Stainland and then make the service half hourly onto Huddersfield with 1 bus an hour via West Vale and Oakes as well as one bus an hour via Elland and Stainland as services 536/7. I would also run them with Transdev Team Pennine to create better links between the two Team Pennine empires. As I ask so many times with these, why? Who is the service better for? The 539 used to continue to Huddersfield but this extension was withdrawn, suggesting more people want to go to Halifax.
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Post by mattb7tl on Aug 29, 2022 15:06:32 GMT 1
With the announced cut towards the 342... I would divert the D2/D3 via Somerset Rd, Northgate & Fenay Lane in Almondbury. This adds no extra journey time to the route, meaning that it wouldn't take any more drivers than it usually takes to run the D2/D3. This gives the village a fast bus into town and more links to villages nearby.
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Post by Father Dougal McGuire on Sept 1, 2022 21:30:55 GMT 1
With the announced cut towards the 342... I would divert the D2/D3 via Somerset Rd, Northgate & Fenay Lane in Almondbury. This adds no extra journey time to the route, meaning that it wouldn't take any more drivers than it usually takes to run the D2/D3. This gives the village a fast bus into town and more links to villages nearby. Be waiting an awful long time to turn right out of the bottom of Fenay Lane onto Penistone rd
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Post by Username on Sept 9, 2022 20:20:51 GMT 1
Since the 571 won't be rescued and the extension of the 254 to Brighouse. I think that the 254 buses should extend to Halifax via Southowram to replace the 571. However journey times can run down via Southowram Bank and the Halifax Bus Station to avoid traffic and allow quicker journey time.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 9, 2022 21:23:26 GMT 1
Since the 571 won't be rescued and the extension of the 254 to Brighouse. I think that the 254 buses should extend to Halifax via Southowram to replace the 571. However journey times can run down via Southowram Bank and the Halifax Bus Station to avoid traffic and allow quicker journey time. Might be abit of a squeeze,Southowram Bank is signposted at the bottom for a width of 6ft.6 whilst both the Eclipses & E400MMCs used on 254 are about 8ft wide. Once you got to the bottom of the bank would you really avoid much traffic,as from there to the bus station you either have to get past the retail parks & Sainsburys or go via Winding road that has cross town traffic,woolshops car park,the rail station & the other exit from Sainsburys.
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Post by Username on Sept 9, 2022 22:01:36 GMT 1
Since the 571 won't be rescued and the extension of the 254 to Brighouse. I think that the 254 buses should extend to Halifax via Southowram to replace the 571. However journey times can run down via Southowram Bank and the Halifax Bus Station to avoid traffic and allow quicker journey time. Might be abit of a squeeze,Southowram Bank is signposted at the bottom for a width of 6ft.6 whilst both the Eclipses & E400MMCs used on 254 are about 8ft wide. Once you got to the bottom of the bank would you really avoid much traffic,as from there to the bus station you either have to get past the retail parks & Sainsburys or go via Winding road that has cross town traffic,woolshops car park,the rail station & the other exit from Sainsburys. The bus can run up along King Street or Charlestown Road.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 9, 2022 22:08:46 GMT 1
Might be abit of a squeeze,Southowram Bank is signposted at the bottom for a width of 6ft.6 whilst both the Eclipses & E400MMCs used on 254 are about 8ft wide. Once you got to the bottom of the bank would you really avoid much traffic,as from there to the bus station you either have to get past the retail parks & Sainsburys or go via Winding road that has cross town traffic,woolshops car park,the rail station & the other exit from Sainsburys. The bus can run up along King Street or Charlestown Road. Thats the ones i mentioned - King Street turns onto Winding Road whilst Charlestown Rd has the retail parks. You'd probably save 1-2 mins max (assuming they'd get a clear run down the bank) I Do think the 254 extending to Halifax partly replacing 571 is good idea,but if your looking to save a minute or 2 off the journey time the easiest one would be to just cut the towngate reversal.
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Post by Father Dougal McGuire on Sept 9, 2022 22:13:56 GMT 1
Might be abit of a squeeze,Southowram Bank is signposted at the bottom for a width of 6ft.6 whilst both the Eclipses & E400MMCs used on 254 are about 8ft wide. Once you got to the bottom of the bank would you really avoid much traffic,as from there to the bus station you either have to get past the retail parks & Sainsburys or go via Winding road that has cross town traffic,woolshops car park,the rail station & the other exit from Sainsburys. The bus can run up along King Street or Charlestown Road. If it goes up Charlestown Road it will just take the same if not longer than the current 571 route as both roads bring you to the same junction where traffic builds up. Traffic going into Halifax from that direction is never too bad anyway, it's the outbound route towards Godley Bridge.
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Post by Username on Sept 11, 2022 10:42:19 GMT 1
The bus can run up along King Street or Charlestown Road. If it goes up Charlestown Road it will just take the same if not longer than the current 571 route as both roads bring you to the same junction where traffic builds up. Traffic going into Halifax from that direction is never too bad anyway, it's the outbound route towards Godley Bridge. Another idea I can have to replace part of the 571 is for South Pennine CT to extend HX3 to Dewsbury via Brighouse. This will replace the 571 and the old 278 therefore providing a link between Brighouse and Mirfield once again also giving a new service from Halifax to Dewsbury. For this operation I would buy some longer vehicles for South Pennine Community Transport Possibly some E200 MMCs.
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Post by Father Dougal McGuire on Sept 11, 2022 16:55:31 GMT 1
I'd extend the 548 to Elland using the old 537/538 route via South Lane, South Parade, Savile Road and Victoria Road then the old 278 route via Old Earth back to Rastrick Nunnery Lane. At present there is no decent bus service linking these towns with both of the limited services used at the moment barely touching Elland by using the bottom road past Morrison's. No help to anyone really missing out the entirety of the residential area of the town.
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Post by deerfold on Sept 11, 2022 19:04:35 GMT 1
If it goes up Charlestown Road it will just take the same if not longer than the current 571 route as both roads bring you to the same junction where traffic builds up. Traffic going into Halifax from that direction is never too bad anyway, it's the outbound route towards Godley Bridge. Another idea I can have to replace part of the 571 is for South Pennine CT to extend HX3 to Dewsbury via Brighouse. This will replace the 571 and the old 278 therefore providing a link between Brighouse and Mirfield once again also giving a new service from Halifax to Dewsbury. For this operation I would buy some longer vehicles for South Pennine Community Transport Possibly some E200 MMCs. This is the second suggestion I've seen that South Pennine get bigger buses. Unfortunately their licence doesn't allow them to operate buses for more than 16 passengers.
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Post by stephen01 on Sept 11, 2022 19:08:20 GMT 1
Another idea I can have to replace part of the 571 is for South Pennine CT to extend HX3 to Dewsbury via Brighouse. This will replace the 571 and the old 278 therefore providing a link between Brighouse and Mirfield once again also giving a new service from Halifax to Dewsbury. For this operation I would buy some longer vehicles for South Pennine Community Transport Possibly some E200 MMCs. This is the second suggestion I've seen that South Pennine get bigger buses. Unfortunately their licence doesn't allow them to operate buses for more than 16 passengers. if that's the case how could they have operated the e200 and currently operate the Solo and Mellor Orions as they are all more than 16 seats.
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Post by deerfold on Sept 11, 2022 20:33:35 GMT 1
This is the second suggestion I've seen that South Pennine get bigger buses. Unfortunately their licence doesn't allow them to operate buses for more than 16 passengers. if that's the case how could they have operated the e200 and currently operate the Solo and Mellor Orions as they are all more than 16 seats. Apologies. That restriction seems to have been dropped from their licence. I suspect some of their drivers may still be so limited.
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Post by westyorkshirebus on Sept 12, 2022 13:52:36 GMT 1
South Pennine is a funny one in that the buses they use probably limits passenger numbers as they don't look like a normal bus service, especially the buses with the manual sliding door. Many people probably think its an access bus for older passengers
It'd be better if they used proper buses, but then at the same time, they probably wouldn't be able to run the marginal services they do, if they were paying leases on E200s etc
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Post by Username on Sept 30, 2022 19:06:11 GMT 1
As a timetable change I'd reorganise the whole 256/9 bus route situation. I would make all journeys on 256 renumbered 259A and the journeys retime it with the 259 to provide a more regular service on 259. I will also reroute the 256 to more of the 259 route.
Journeys from Brighouse combined will leave at: 07:00 (B), 10:00 (EB), 11:00 (EB), 12:00 (EB), 13:00 (EB), 14:00 (EB), 15:10 (B), 16:10 (B), 17:20 (B), 18:10 (B)
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