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Post by deerfold on Oct 1, 2021 10:04:22 GMT 1
If you click into the journey its a short run in service to depot. I never realised you could click on the route number to get the times for all stops until now. I wonder how many other people don't.
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Post by Bradford Traveller on Oct 1, 2021 10:32:08 GMT 1
If you click into the journey its a short run in service to depot. I never realised you could click on the route number to get the times for all stops until now. I wonder how many other people don't. There used to be a caption that said that, obviously not on there now.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 1, 2021 10:43:38 GMT 1
I never realised you could click on the route number to get the times for all stops until now. I wonder how many other people don't. There used to be a caption that said that, obviously not on there now. Still there & still works, click on route no above the time
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Post by stephen01 on Oct 1, 2021 23:16:46 GMT 1
One from North Yorkshire; as of Monday 4th October Reliance will be covering route 18 for East Yorkshire for a few months.
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Post by SCH117X on Oct 3, 2021 10:27:09 GMT 1
59 Harrogate-Skipton now all year, but still Saturdays only
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Post by stephen01 on Oct 5, 2021 16:25:46 GMT 1
202, 203 & 229 are on diversion from Monday due to roadworks at Cooper Bridge
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Post by dennisthemenace504 on Oct 5, 2021 18:08:34 GMT 1
202, 203 & 229 are on diversion from Monday due to roadworks at Cooper Bridge Heckmondwike will be covering the 202 to Bradley shuttle, as they're the only ones going through to Huddersfield. Why Dewsbury couldn't have gone via Kirkheaton, and Heckmondwike's 229 divert from Hartshead via Clifton and Brighouse up to Bradley Bar, then come back down to the unaffected part of Leeds Road into Huddersfield
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Post by stephen01 on Oct 5, 2021 18:37:01 GMT 1
202, 203 & 229 are on diversion from Monday due to roadworks at Cooper Bridge Heckmondwike will be covering the 202 to Bradley shuttle, as they're the only ones going through to Huddersfield. Why Dewsbury couldn't have gone via Kirkheaton, and Heckmondwike's 229 divert from Hartshead via Clifton and Brighouse up to Bradley Bar, then come back down to the unaffected part of Leeds Road into Huddersfield Your guess would be as good as mine but drivers are still at Dewsbury from when they used to do trips on the 262. It's curious the 228 isn't mentioned as that will be affected too.
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Post by joseph on Oct 5, 2021 19:05:54 GMT 1
The 228 won't be affected as the closure will be after 7pm and all day Sunday. I hope printed publicity is plastered on every stop, certianly from White Rose to Huddersfield and throughout the 229 route as this will catch people out big time. I say White Rose because it's a fairly popular destination for through passengers from places before Dewsbury on a Sunday, additionally I sometimes use the 202/3 when coming back to Beeston from Huddersfield after 7pm and although numbers travelling through are small, there still are some, and I don't think they'll be well chuffed having to turn back round at Bradley lol.
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Post by 576 Gemini 2 on Oct 9, 2021 15:08:47 GMT 1
Noticed that the 576 is back to serving the lower part of Great Horton Road & University of Bradford
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Post by peteleeds on Oct 12, 2021 7:45:56 GMT 1
Still no specifics on metro site advising of changes at end of month. Only if you go into specific service in timetable section you may find an upcoming timetable if your lucky.
Aren't they meant to be encouraging public transport use? This is very uncustomer friendly
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Post by Deleted on Oct 12, 2021 7:51:57 GMT 1
Arriva are advising passengers of the 110 service splitting on the on board announcements
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Post by SF07 on Oct 14, 2021 17:41:20 GMT 1
Metro service changes now online. No details yet as to what happens to the withdrawn 205 between Pudsey and Dewsbury, but Metro still looking at alternatives. 28 Barnsley • Hemsworth • Pontefract
Sat 30 Oct 2021 Operated by Stagecoach A revised timetable will be introduced due to driver shortages. 30 Horsforth • Pudsey
Sat 23 Oct 2021 Operated by CT plus A revised timetable will be introduced operating every 30 minutes until approx. 2000 59 Barnsley • Newmillerdam • WakefieldSat 30 Oct 2021 Operated by Stagecoach A revised timetable will be introduced due to driver shortages. 81 81A Leeds • HorsforthSat 23 Oct 2021 Operated by CT Plus A revised timetable will be introduced, reinstating evening journeys until 2100 MonSat and 1900 on Sunday. 100 Wakefield • EastmoorMon 25 Oct 2021 Operated by Arriva This route will be revised to operate via College Grove Road and Queen Elizabeth Road in both directions. 101 Wrenthorpe • WakefieldMon 25 Oct 2021 Operated by Arriva This service will be extended to Stanley, partly replacing service 103. 102 Healey • Ossett • Lupset • Wakefield • EastmoorMon 25 Oct 2021 Operated by Arriva Additional journeys will be introduced to partly replace service 104 between Wakefield and Eastmoor. 103/103A Wakefield • Wakefield 41 Business Park • StanleySun 24 Oct 2021 Operated by Arriva This service will be withdrawn and partly replaced by service 101 between Potovens and Stanley, and service 118 between Wakefield and Junction 41 Industrial Estate, operating hourly Monday to Saturday daytime. 104 Alverthorpe • Wakefield • EastmoorMon 25 Oct 2021 Operated by Arriva This service will be withdrawn and partly replaced by additional journeys on service 102 between Wakefield and Eastmoor, and additional journeys on service 212 between Wakefield and Alverthorpe. 106 Wakefield • Belle Isle • Kettlethorpe • Crigglestone • Hall GreenMon 25 Oct 2021 Operated by Arriva This is a new service operating between Wakefield, Kettlethorpe and Hall Green, running up to every 15 minutes Monday to Saturday daytime, up to every 30 minutes Sunday daytime and up to every 30 minutes each evening. 107 Wakefield • Thornes • Calder Park • Durkar • Newmillerdam • KettlethorpeMon 25 Oct 2021 Operated by Arriva Additional evening and Sunday journeys will be introduced between Wakefield and Durkar, partly replacing service 109. 108 Wakefield • Durkar • Crigglestone • West Bretton • Yorkshire Sculpture ParkMon 25 Oct 2021 Operated by Arriva Minor changes will made to the timetable throughout the winter to reflect the winter opening times of Yorkshire Sculpture Park. 109 Wakefield • Durkar • Kettlethorpe • Crigglestone • Hall GreenMon 25 Oct 2021 Operated by Arriva This service will be withdrawn and replaced by additional journeys on service 107 between Wakefield and Durkar, and new service 106 between Wakefield, Kettlethorpe and Hall Green. 110 Leeds • Robin Hood • Lofthouse • Outwood • WakefieldMon 25 Oct 2021 Operated by Arriva This route will be split into two services. The Leeds to Wakefield section will continue to run as service 110 up to every 10 minutes. The Wakefield to Hall Green section will run as new service 106 up to every 15 minutes. From Sandal into Wakefield, the service will coordinate with the 195/196 to provide a bus every 7/8 minutes. Most journeys on service 106 will serve Hall Green. 112 Kirkhamgate • Alverthorpe • WakefieldMon 25 Oct 2021 Operated by Arriva This service will be withdrawn and replaced by service 212. 117 Leeds • White Rose • West Ardsley • Shaw Cross • Ossett • WakefieldMon 25 Oct 2021 Operated by Arriva Minor timetable changes will be introduced. 118 Leeds • White Rose • Middleton • East Ardsley • Junction 41 • Outwood • WakefieldMon 25 Oct 2021 Operated by Arriva Additional short journeys will be introduced between Junction 41 Industrial Estate and Wakefield, partly replacing service 103. Together with services 425 and 427 there will be a coordinated 15-minute service along Bradford Road in/out of Wakefield. 205 Pudsey • Dewsbury • MorleySun 24 Oct 2021 Operated by Arriva This service has been withdrawn. Options are being considered for a replacement. 212 Dewsbury • Dewsbury District Hospital • Batley • Alverthorpe • WakefieldMon 25 Oct 2021 Operated by Arriva All 212 journeys will serve Arncliffe Road and Hayburn Road, replacing the 212A. Some journeys will be diverted to serve Kirkhamgate and Marion Avenue, partly replacing service 112. Additional short journeys are introduced between Alverthorpe and Wakefield, partly replacing services 104 and 112. 231 232 Huddersfield • Waterloo • Lepton • Sitlington • Horbury • WakefieldMon 25 Oct 2021 Operated by Arriva Minor timetable changes will be introduced to improve punctuality, including a slightly later departure from Scissett Middle School on service 232S. 261 Cleckheaton • Heckmondwike • Roberttown • Mirfield • Kirkheaton • Dalton • HuddersfieldMon 25 Oct 2021 Operated by Arriva Additional journeys will be introduced between Huddersfield and Upper Heaton, replacing some 262 journeys currently operated by First 862 884 873 Keighley • Ikley/ Ilkley * SkiptonSun 24 Oct 2021 Operated by The Keighley Bus Company Winter timetables will be introduced. 874 Acomb • Wetherby • Leeds • Otley • Ilkley • Grassington • BuckdenSun 24 Oct 2021 Operated by York Pullman Bus Company The winter timetable will be introduced. The route will be revised between Leeds and Ilkley and will operate via Hyde Park, Headingley, Lawnswood and Otley. The service will also be extended to start at Acomb. K5 Keighley • Thawites BrowSun 24 Oct 2021 Operated by The Keighley Bus Company Minor timetable changes will be introduced to one morning journey to help with access to school. X10 Barnsley • LeedsSat 30 Oct 2021 Operated by Stagecoach A revised timetable will be introduced due to driver shortages. X80 University of Leeds • Leeds • Temple Green • Kippax • CastlefordMon 25 Oct 2021 Operated by Arriva A revised timetable will be introduced to speed up journey times. wymetro.com/media/7628/october-2021-ct-126-01.pdf
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Post by SF07 on Oct 14, 2021 17:50:25 GMT 1
Details on those Stagecoach changes are posted on their website. X10 will be temporarily reduced to a peak-time service only, running two weekday journeys each way from 30 October until further notice. 28 Barnsley – Grimethorpe – PontefractMonday to Saturday daytime frequency (between Barnsley and Hemsworth) reduced from every 30 minutes to hourly. No change to journeys to/from Pontefract. 59, 59a Barnsley – Royston – WakefieldMonday to Saturday daytime journeys to Wakefield reduced from every 30 minutes to hourly. X10 Barnsley – Darton – LeedsThis service will only operate Monday to Friday peak periods, at 0650 and 1610 from Barnsley and 0755 and 1730 from Leeds. No service on Saturday or Sunday. Alternative journeys between Barnsley and Darton are available on service 93. Alternative journeys between Barnsley, Darton and Leeds are available on local trains. www.stagecoachbus.com/promos-and-offers/yorkshire/covid19-temporary-timetables
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Post by joseph on Oct 15, 2021 5:41:25 GMT 1
Details on those Stagecoach changes are posted on their website. X10 will be temporarily reduced to a peak-time service only, running two weekday journeys each way from 30 October until further notice. 28 Barnsley – Grimethorpe – PontefractMonday to Saturday daytime frequency (between Barnsley and Hemsworth) reduced from every 30 minutes to hourly. No change to journeys to/from Pontefract. 59, 59a Barnsley – Royston – WakefieldMonday to Saturday daytime journeys to Wakefield reduced from every 30 minutes to hourly. X10 Barnsley – Darton – LeedsThis service will only operate Monday to Friday peak periods, at 0650 and 1610 from Barnsley and 0755 and 1730 from Leeds. No service on Saturday or Sunday. Alternative journeys between Barnsley and Darton are available on service 93. Alternative journeys between Barnsley, Darton and Leeds are available on local trains. www.stagecoachbus.com/promos-and-offers/yorkshire/covid19-temporary-timetablesTalk about hiding the truth, I thought Transdev were bad when trying to make a negative look like a positive, but Stagecoach have gone one better hiding this under PROMO'S AND OFFERS! Who the hell is going to look under there lol?
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Post by stantheman on Oct 15, 2021 8:08:27 GMT 1
Since when did the X80 include Temple Green, Kippax and Castleford? Surely that’s a mistake?
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Post by steviewevie on Oct 15, 2021 12:42:09 GMT 1
Presumably it is meant to be X60.
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Post by deerfold on Oct 15, 2021 15:01:01 GMT 1
Presumably it is meant to be X60. They appear to have used the route description for the X60, but the X80 has a new, quicker, timetable.
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Post by rossbailey on Oct 16, 2021 9:52:40 GMT 1
Update was posted on the 205 bus stand at Pudsey bus Station on Thursday by the Pudsey Labour Party.
205 Pudsey-Morley-Dewsbury Service to be Axed from 25th October 2021
Pudsey Labour Party members are aware of proposed axing of the above service, the reasons been driver shortage on their original notification to the Traffic Commissioner.
We are aware that there are serious issues with driver shortages in a number of employment sectors however we are requesting Arriva to re consider this decision for the following reasons.
This service has been a long-established direct link to Dewsbury for passengers using for travel to work, shopping visiting friends /relatives serving Roker Lane , top of Troydale, New Farnley Gildersome, Morley, Tingley. We are aware of passengers who have used this service since the 1960s.
We note that due to driver shortages Arriva Yorkshire propose to cut four services in West Yorkshire (205,103,104,112) all these services will have alternative /or rerouted bus links by Arriva including most parts of the 205 except for a bus link to Pudsey.
We have a reply from Arriva and they state passengers have switched to alternative Arriva bus services this is not true for residents of Pudsey.
We understand Arriva they have also requested other bus operators to consider operating this route, but they have declined due to increased costs, and you have forwarded to West Yorkshire Combined Authority (WYCA ) to assist.
Pudsey Labour Party who has campaigned previously to keep existing bus services, have also contacted Arriva Yorkshire West Yorkshire Combined Authority (WYCA) the Mayor of West Yorkshire Tracy Brabin M.P Stuart Andrew and Local ward members to be aware of the issue and also lobby to retain this bus link
We have asked WYCA to put the 205 service out to an emergency tender with another company for at least the Pudsey to Morley part of route on at least a De Minimis provision.
And also requested an assurance that once the driver shortage is resolved that the full 205 bus link is reinstated.
We are hoping to have a reply to these requests by WYCA by the end of the week.
We would also request users of this service to also lodge complaints with above organisations also request WYCA to at least retain the Pudsey to Morley section,
WYCA telephone 0113251727 customerfeedback@westyorks-ca.gov.uk In view of the Climate Change Emergency and impending United Nations Climate Change Conference, (COP26,) in Glasgow next month this is not a good time to cut bus service provision especially for residents in Pudsey.
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Post by stephen01 on Oct 16, 2021 13:25:38 GMT 1
Update was posted on the 205 bus stand at Pudsey bus Station on Thursday by the Pudsey Labour Party. 205 Pudsey-Morley-Dewsbury Service to be Axed from 25th October 2021 Pudsey Labour Party members are aware of proposed axing of the above service, the reasons been driver shortage on their original notification to the Traffic Commissioner. We are aware that there are serious issues with driver shortages in a number of employment sectors however we are requesting Arriva to re consider this decision for the following reasons. This service has been a long-established direct link to Dewsbury for passengers using for travel to work, shopping visiting friends /relatives serving Roker Lane , top of Troydale, New Farnley Gildersome, Morley, Tingley. We are aware of passengers who have used this service since the 1960s. We note that due to driver shortages Arriva Yorkshire propose to cut four services in West Yorkshire (205,103,104,112) all these services will have alternative /or rerouted bus links by Arriva including most parts of the 205 except for a bus link to Pudsey. We have a reply from Arriva and they state passengers have switched to alternative Arriva bus services this is not true for residents of Pudsey. We understand Arriva they have also requested other bus operators to consider operating this route, but they have declined due to increased costs, and you have forwarded to West Yorkshire Combined Authority (WYCA ) to assist. Pudsey Labour Party who has campaigned previously to keep existing bus services, have also contacted Arriva Yorkshire West Yorkshire Combined Authority (WYCA) the Mayor of West Yorkshire Tracy Brabin M.P Stuart Andrew and Local ward members to be aware of the issue and also lobby to retain this bus link We have asked WYCA to put the 205 service out to an emergency tender with another company for at least the Pudsey to Morley part of route on at least a De Minimis provision. And also requested an assurance that once the driver shortage is resolved that the full 205 bus link is reinstated. We are hoping to have a reply to these requests by WYCA by the end of the week. We would also request users of this service to also lodge complaints with above organisations also request WYCA to at least retain the Pudsey to Morley section, WYCA telephone 0113251727 customerfeedback@westyorks-ca.gov.uk In view of the Climate Change Emergency and impending United Nations Climate Change Conference, (COP26,) in Glasgow next month this is not a good time to cut bus service provision especially for residents in Pudsey. Might be been a bit slack here but why would Metro found an emergency tender of part of the 205 when according to the "update" from Pudsey Labour Party other operators have said they wont take on the full route what makes them think an operator would want to take on part of the route as that would still be none-viable in the eyes of another operator. Funding for the 205 had already been reduced hence the current timetable.
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Post by yorkslad on Oct 16, 2021 16:03:25 GMT 1
Update was posted on the 205 bus stand at Pudsey bus Station on Thursday by the Pudsey Labour Party. 205 Pudsey-Morley-Dewsbury Service to be Axed from 25th October 2021 Pudsey Labour Party members are aware of proposed axing of the above service, the reasons been driver shortage on their original notification to the Traffic Commissioner. We are aware that there are serious issues with driver shortages in a number of employment sectors however we are requesting Arriva to re consider this decision for the following reasons. This service has been a long-established direct link to Dewsbury for passengers using for travel to work, shopping visiting friends /relatives serving Roker Lane , top of Troydale, New Farnley Gildersome, Morley, Tingley. We are aware of passengers who have used this service since the 1960s. We note that due to driver shortages Arriva Yorkshire propose to cut four services in West Yorkshire (205,103,104,112) all these services will have alternative /or rerouted bus links by Arriva including most parts of the 205 except for a bus link to Pudsey. We have a reply from Arriva and they state passengers have switched to alternative Arriva bus services this is not true for residents of Pudsey. We understand Arriva they have also requested other bus operators to consider operating this route, but they have declined due to increased costs, and you have forwarded to West Yorkshire Combined Authority (WYCA ) to assist. Pudsey Labour Party who has campaigned previously to keep existing bus services, have also contacted Arriva Yorkshire West Yorkshire Combined Authority (WYCA) the Mayor of West Yorkshire Tracy Brabin M.P Stuart Andrew and Local ward members to be aware of the issue and also lobby to retain this bus link We have asked WYCA to put the 205 service out to an emergency tender with another company for at least the Pudsey to Morley part of route on at least a De Minimis provision. And also requested an assurance that once the driver shortage is resolved that the full 205 bus link is reinstated. We are hoping to have a reply to these requests by WYCA by the end of the week. We would also request users of this service to also lodge complaints with above organisations also request WYCA to at least retain the Pudsey to Morley section, WYCA telephone 0113251727 customerfeedback@westyorks-ca.gov.uk In view of the Climate Change Emergency and impending United Nations Climate Change Conference, (COP26,) in Glasgow next month this is not a good time to cut bus service provision especially for residents in Pudsey. Might be been a bit slack here but why would Metro found an emergency tender of part of the 205 when according to the "update" from Pudsey Labour Party other operators have said they wont take on the full route what makes them think an operator would want to take on part of the route as that would still be none-viable in the eyes of another operator. Funding for the 205 had already been reduced hence the current timetable. WYCA could fund it if it was deemed "socially necessary". But unlike the trains there is no operator of last resort for buses, so if no operator wants to run it, even with funding, that's that. And it might be that no other operator has spare vehicles and drivers either.
I get why some people might be aggrieved by its withdrawal, but "people have been using it since the 1960s" isn't a reason to keep it going. Heck, I used to live near Ringways and remember when we had the 45 and 64 running every 20 minutes combined in the 1970s. By the time the 39 was pulled it was down to hourly if you were lucky. So I don't think it's unreasonable to ask who is using this service, where they're travelling to/from and when before pumping limited public funds into supporting it.
(Yes, I realise that this is WYCA we're talking about and they're not always so choosy about where they throw their cash.)
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Post by stephen01 on Oct 16, 2021 16:54:44 GMT 1
Might be been a bit slack here but why would Metro found an emergency tender of part of the 205 when according to the "update" from Pudsey Labour Party other operators have said they wont take on the full route what makes them think an operator would want to take on part of the route as that would still be none-viable in the eyes of another operator. Funding for the 205 had already been reduced hence the current timetable. WYCA could fund it if it was deemed "socially necessary". But unlike the trains there is no operator of last resort for buses, so if no operator wants to run it, even with funding, that's that. And it might be that no other operator has spare vehicles and drivers either.
I get why some people might be aggrieved by its withdrawal, but "people have been using it since the 1960s" isn't a reason to keep it going. Heck, I used to live near Ringways and remember when we had the 45 and 64 running every 20 minutes combined in the 1970s. By the time the 39 was pulled it was down to hourly if you were lucky. So I don't think it's unreasonable to ask who is using this service, where they're travelling to/from and when before pumping limited public funds into supporting it.
(Yes, I realise that this is WYCA we're talking about and they're not always so choosy about where they throw their cash.)
You are completely right. If i'm not mistaken the current timetable is now predominatley commercial run with a very small part Metro funded. This route has been massivley hit in reductions to timetable since the last big consultation back in 2012.
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Post by joseph on Oct 16, 2021 20:51:21 GMT 1
The best option would be for Metro to approach First to extend the 65 every 90 mins as I've alluded to elsewhere on here. The current 55 and 75 are more than enough for Holbeck and Beeston Asda, so reducing the 65 to every 90 mins wouldn't harm, unless you want White Rose, but there are other options like walking from Milshaw off a 55, changing there to a 9, or changing from an 86 at Hunslet Hall Road.
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Post by westyorkshirebus on Oct 16, 2021 21:04:43 GMT 1
I doubt Metro would be asking First to make major changes to their commercial network, I’m not sure how the funding would work in such a situation.
If there is any replacement it’ll be a very straight forward stand alone route
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Post by joseph on Oct 16, 2021 21:12:32 GMT 1
I doubt Metro would be asking First to make major changes to their commercial network, I’m not sure how the funding would work in such a situation. If there is any replacement it’ll be a very straight forward stand alone route It surprisingly might be something First would be interested in as the current 65 is borderline profitable as it is, it's had quite a lot of slash and burn including a lengthy period of suspension but somehow still keeps the die hards lol. Offering something new to the route such as links to White Rose from parts of South Pudsey, Farnley and Gildersome may be a draw what increases profits, as well as solves this lost link issue.
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