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Post by SF07 on Jan 11, 2021 18:15:28 GMT 1
A couple of changes to Arriva services in Kirklees posted on their website, which appears to suggest that Yorkshire Tiger's 262 service will be withdrawn next month. Arriva's 261 service between Cleckheaton and Mirfield is being extended from Mirfield to Huddersfield via the 262 route with a Sunday service introduced between Huddersfield and Heckmondwike. As a result, the 271 is also re-timed due to interworking at Cleckheaton with the 261. www.arrivabus.co.uk/latest-news/kirklees-service-changes261 timetable271 timetable |
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Post by stephen01 on Jan 11, 2021 19:44:05 GMT 1
A couple of changes to Arriva services in Kirklees posted on their website, which appears to suggest that Yorkshire Tiger's 262 service will be withdrawn next month. Arriva's 261 service between Cleckheaton and Mirfield is being extended from Mirfield to Huddersfield via the 262 route with a Sunday service introduced between Huddersfield and Heckmondwike. As a result, the 271 is also re-timed due to interworking at Cleckheaton with the 261. www.arrivabus.co.uk/latest-news/kirklees-service-changes261 timetable271 timetableThat looks to me at the minute that Tiger could still be running the "short" workings the currently do as well as the main one until Tiger updates there page. Since the 262 got re-routed to Brighouse does it have much of a loading from Mirfield to Birghouse. Now when it was going to Dewsbury it did. I can also see another fleet shuffle coming up because the two routes can't have deckers used now if still interworking because of the bridge in Mirfield. |
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Post by joseph on Jan 12, 2021 16:44:56 GMT 1
Confirmation today on the Tiger website that they'll be withdrawing the 262 with Arriva partly replacing it with the 261.
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Post by twansport on Jan 13, 2021 13:20:54 GMT 1
Expect service changes in Leeds in late February. From the latest Connecting Leeds newsletter
Road layout changes
Work will also include changing the layout of Vicar Lane and Infirmary Street.
On Sunday 24 January both roads will open in both directions to motorised traffic and cycles.
The roads are currently being transformed as part of a multi-million pound project to improve the city centre.
Once fully complete in spring, Infirmary Street will be converted in to a two-way operation designed for bus and cycle priority access (with provision for local access for businesses and residents). Bus stops will be upgraded and bus-only restrictions will improve journey times and air quality. There will be bus stops in lay-bys along both sides, the central bus stop island will be removed, and a new pedestrian crossing installed.
Bus changes
Following the resurfacing (from the weekend of 20/21 February) buses will use Vicar Lane in both inbound and outbound directions. Buses that normally travel up New Briggate will divert to Vicar Lane.
All bus diversions and changes will be updated on the Metro website.
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Post by Bradford Traveller on Jan 13, 2021 20:50:25 GMT 1
Blazefield Wharfedale Links changes from 21 February  A dashing bus, new look and new link in Otley as the 965 extends to create a quick connection from Weston, Wharfedale Hospital & the town centre to the rail network at Menston from next month. Menston Rail Station–Otley–Wharfedale Hospital–Weston Otley Dash will have a better 30-minute frequency link to the rail station, timed for the best connections with trains from Leeds. |
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Post by Burnside on Jan 13, 2021 22:01:06 GMT 1
Blazefield Wharfedale Links changes from 21 February A dashing bus, new look and new link in Otley as the 965 extends to create a quick connection from Weston, Wharfedale Hospital & the town centre to the rail network at Menston from next month. In addition, Flyer A3 is apparently being extended to Otley to replace the 62 which is to be cut back to Keighley - Ilkley only. |
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Post by stephen01 on Jan 13, 2021 22:07:34 GMT 1
Blazefield Wharfedale Links changes from 21 February A dashing bus, new look and new link in Otley as the 965 extends to create a quick connection from Weston, Wharfedale Hospital & the town centre to the rail network at Menston from next month. In addition, Flyer A3 is apparently being extended to Otley to replace the 62 which is to be cut back to Keighley - Ilkley only. ooh that'll be good a more regular service from Bradford to Otley as 653 is one a day each way. |
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Post by westyorkshirebus on Jan 13, 2021 22:21:07 GMT 1
It’ll be interesting to see how the new A3 timetable works as a quick trip to Otley would end up with lots of spare layover time in the timetable
Also whether the 965 stays half hourly, and if the 962 still runs unchanged
Also, a question, did the 62 between Ilkley and Otley replace something else, ot was it a new link (I know Otley to the Airport replaced the 967)
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Post by deerfold on Jan 13, 2021 22:49:06 GMT 1
ooh that'll be good a more regular service from Bradford to Otley as 653 is one a day each way. Although the extended A3 is likely to take around 70 minutes, rather than the 653's 40 minutes. Odd to remember 2 an hour when I did the journey regularly 20-odd years ago. |
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Post by deerfold on Jan 13, 2021 22:56:34 GMT 1
It’ll be interesting to see how the new A3 timetable works as a quick trip to Otley would end up with lots of spare layover time in the timetable Also whether the 965 stays half hourly, and if the 962 still runs unchanged Also, a question, did the 62 between Ilkley and Otley replace something else, ot was it a new link (I know Otley to the Airport replaced the 967) The 62 replaced the 967 between Menston and the Airport. It first went to Otley when it was extended to Harrogate. It was then cut back to Otley until it was extended to the Airport and then rerouted via Menston. The 62 and 962 both link Otley and Menston Rail station - could the 962 be changing too? |
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Post by Bradford Traveller on Jan 13, 2021 23:10:25 GMT 1
Also, a question, did the 62 between Ilkley and Otley replace something else, ot was it a new link (I know Otley to the Airport replaced the 967) Not a new link as the X84 already went that way, but the 62 ran through to Otley and Harrogate for a while, competition for Connexions' X52. |
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Post by Bradford Traveller on Jan 13, 2021 23:13:54 GMT 1
Blazefield Wharfedale Links changes from 21 February A dashing bus, new look and new link in Otley as the 965 extends to create a quick connection from Weston, Wharfedale Hospital & the town centre to the rail network at Menston from next month. In addition, Flyer A3 is apparently being extended to Otley to replace the 62 which is to be cut back to Keighley - Ilkley only. Yes it has been reported that the 62 will run only to Ilkley, but there was talk on here of an extended 784 serving the Airport. |
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Post by dlspotter on Jan 14, 2021 14:27:37 GMT 1
In addition, Flyer A3 is apparently being extended to Otley to replace the 62 which is to be cut back to Keighley - Ilkley only. Yes it has been reported that the 62 will run only to Ilkley, but there was talk on here of an extended 784 serving the Airport. Unlikely if the A3 is extended, more chance of the 784 being renumbered A4 and running that way, but I can't see Pool needing 2bph from Otley or even 3bph to the Airport |
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Post by glennh2 on Jan 14, 2021 15:02:59 GMT 1
Not sure how an extended A3 replaces 62 when A3 doesn't serve Ilkley? Or maybe they are dropping their Ilkley- Otley link to just the 784?
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Post by A1YBG on Jan 14, 2021 15:17:57 GMT 1
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Post by deerfold on Jan 14, 2021 15:20:25 GMT 1
Not sure how an extended A3 replaces 62 when A3 doesn't serve Ilkley? Or maybe they are dropping their Ilkley- Otley link to just the 784? The A3 replaces the 62 Otley - Airport. The 62 is only funded by Metro between the Airport and Menston - the rest is commercial and there are no links it provides that can't be done on the X52, 962, X84 (and 784) and revised A3 and 965. |
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Post by deerfold on Jan 14, 2021 15:28:03 GMT 1
Yes it has been reported that the 62 will run only to Ilkley, but there was talk on here of an extended 784 serving the Airport. Unlikely if the A3 is extended, more chance of the 784 being renumbered A4 and running that way, but I can't see Pool needing 2bph from Otley or even 3bph to the Airport The 967 used to run half hourly Menston - Otley - Pool - Airport. Currently between Pool and Otley there's the hourly 940 (middle of the day), hourly 62 (peak, evenings, Sundays), hourly X52 and occasional 653, 781, and 923. It's not long since it had the hourly X85 too. |
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Post by nic on Jan 14, 2021 15:29:34 GMT 1
Wasn't originally the 967 planned to connect LBIA with Menston Rail station? Even though you might as well just hopped on the 757 back then to Leeds Rail Station.
I think the A3 is a good shout extending it into Otley. Be it via Chevin or Pool.
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Post by peteleeds on Jan 15, 2021 20:56:31 GMT 1
www.transdevbus.co.uk/flyer/flyer-taking-otley-21-februaryOn 21 February FLYER A3 will be upgraded to provide a new link from Otley to Pool and Leeds Bradford Airport – continuing along the current route to Shipley and Bradford. It means that customers in Otley have a bus every hour, direct to Shipley and Bradford 7 days a week, as well as a new-look link to Pool and the airport We’ll be adding a full FLYER A3 timetable here shortly. Here’s how buses will be running: Monday to Saturday – Buses will run hourly between Otley, Leeds Bradford Airport and Bradford from 7.20am to around 11pm. Earlier buses will still run between Bradford and the airport from 6am. Sunday - Buses will run hourly between Otley, Leeds Bradford Airport and Bradford from 9.45am to around 11pm. Earlier buses will still run between Bradford and the airport from 7am. Some times on FLYER A2 – Bradford-Guiseley-Yeadon-Leeds Bradford Airport-Harrogate – will be changing on 21 February too. A small number of departure times are changing, and the first trip from Bradford Monday-Saturday is extended to run all the way through to Harrogate rather than finishin at the airport. We’ll link a new A2 timetable here shortly.
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Post by stevieinselby on Jan 15, 2021 20:56:44 GMT 1
More details of the changes to Flyer now at www.transdevbus.co.uk/flyer/flyer-taking-otley-21-februaryThe A3 will be extended beyond the airport to Pool and Otley, every hour, 7 days a week right into the evening. Although it is branded as a "direct" link from Otley to Shipley and Bradford, it takes quite a circuitous route ... the First 34 takes just 16 minutes from Otley to Guiseley, whereas the A3 looks like it will take at least double that, so the end-to-end journey will be at least 65 minutes, maybe more ... the TLC 653 used to do it in 55 minutes, IIRC.  |
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Post by deerfold on Jan 15, 2021 21:40:20 GMT 1
More details of the changes to Flyer now at www.transdevbus.co.uk/flyer/flyer-taking-otley-21-februaryThe A3 will be extended beyond the airport to Pool and Otley, every hour, 7 days a week right into the evening. Although it is branded as a "direct" link from Otley to Shipley and Bradford, it takes quite a circuitous route ... the First 34 takes just 16 minutes from Otley to Guiseley, whereas the A3 looks like it will take at least double that, so the end-to-end journey will be at least 65 minutes, maybe more ... the TLC 653 used to do it in 55 minutes, IIRC. The current once a day (early) 653 takes 40 minutes Bradford to Otley. |
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Post by westyorkshirebus on Jan 15, 2021 22:37:20 GMT 1
Well the two options on the table at the moment are a slightly indirect route or no link at all, so I think most would prefer the first.
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Post by stevieinselby on Jan 15, 2021 22:46:00 GMT 1
The current once a day (early) 653 takes 40 minutes Bradford to Otley. It takes 40 minutes from Bradford at a time when nobody is up, and then 48 minutes to Bradford at a time when not many people are up ... the running times you can achieve at 6am won't be the same as what you can manage during the daytime 😉 When it was a regular daytime service I'm sure it did a round-the-houses in Menston, but some of the peak-time journeys that extended through to Pool didn't in order to keep the end-to-end time under an hour. Yes, a slow service is better than no service, agreed. |
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Post by deerfold on Jan 15, 2021 23:23:00 GMT 1
The current once a day (early) 653 takes 40 minutes Bradford to Otley. It takes 40 minutes from Bradford at a time when nobody is up, and then 48 minutes to Bradford at a time when not many people are up ... the running times you can achieve at 6am won't be the same as what you can manage during the daytime 😉 When it was a regular daytime service I'm sure it did a round-the-houses in Menston, but some of the peak-time journeys that extended through to Pool didn't in order to keep the end-to-end time under an hour. Yes, a slow service is better than no service, agreed. I did mention that was early. 55 is probably a good daytime estimate, a little longer in the peak. The 653 kept changing its mind about the route through Menston - I used to catch it from Harrogate on the first bus of the day (heading for work in Halifax) and it was very useful to be able to change to the train at Menston and avoid the rush-hour delays on the bus - for a while that journey was the only one to go via the station, but at other times all or none did that. |
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Post by joseph on Jan 16, 2021 15:11:11 GMT 1
I'm wondering if it'll take some custom away from the 34? Sometimes with traffic, and plenty of users, it can take quite a while to get from Otley to Yeadon Centre. I'm wondering if the A3 will work out quicker for those living on the Yeadon side of Queensway and those in Yeadon itself, even via Pool? Another thing with the 34 is that it often runs late, so going forward, should the A3 be popular and so take custom from the 34 could we see the 34 curtailed at Guiseley with the 33 extended to Otley instead to maintain the link from Guiseley via Menston?
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