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Post by neukit on Jul 2, 2017 14:09:41 GMT 1
Bit of a surprise S Pennine CT taking over the 226(Halifax-Norwood Green. Unless the timetable is changing then there are three single journeys Mon-Fri (one towards Halifax and two towards Norward Green) the dead mileage from the Waterloo area must be greater than that operated in service Assuming the linked school service has also passed to them, the day's duty actually starts even further away at Odsal. The school service linked with the recent 226 tender also started/finished in Norwood Green.
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Post by Arriva Wakefield on Jul 2, 2017 16:48:24 GMT 1
Fenway Bridge to Norwood Green is 10 miles by shortest route, according to Google Maps.
Same distance as Tiger have had for dead runs to Wakefield or Halifax.
Shorter than the 16 miles from Hunslet Park to Flockton that First have for the 232.
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Post by tyresmoke on Jul 2, 2017 16:54:26 GMT 1
Fenway Bridge to Norwood Green is 10 miles by shortest route, according to Google Maps. Same distance as Tiger have had for dead runs to Wakefield or Halifax. Shorter than the 16 miles from Hunslet Park to Flockton that First have for the 232. That's not far at all, the main service run from ours has a 15 mile run, and one is almost 20 miles.
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Post by westyorkshirebus on Jul 2, 2017 16:56:36 GMT 1
I think its not the dead running, more the amount of dead running in comparison to the live running. The bus will be dead almost as much as it is in service Assuming the linked school service has also passed to them, the day's duty actually starts even further away at Odsal. The school service linked with the recent 226 tender also started/finished in Norwood Green. Service C50 & C60?
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Post by pontecarlo on Jul 3, 2017 10:07:48 GMT 1
With regards to the changes to the denby dale network, in practice the 83 has never served station road in shepley. I've been on it more than once and the driver always omits the turning.
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Post by westyorkshirebus on Jul 3, 2017 19:09:14 GMT 1
Regarding the Yorkshire Tiger changes, it seems odd that they've suddenly given Upper Denby and Birdsedge an hourly bus, when they've only ever had infrequent ones before.
From the changes it looks like the direct route between the Kirkburton turn off and Shepley will no longer be served.
Shepley get a poor deal, from a direct bus that takes 26 mins to now one that goes via both Lepton and Highburton and will take 49 mins
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Post by SCH117X on Jul 7, 2017 18:42:06 GMT 1
Heard this morning that Transdev are to axe one of the first two weekday services on the 24 between Harrogate and Pateley; that's the 0700 or 0740 from Pateley - the next working is 0930 when the service goes hourly.
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Post by neukit on Jul 7, 2017 22:05:25 GMT 1
Heard this morning that Transdev are to axe one of the first two weekday services on the 24 between Harrogate and Pateley; that's the 0700 or 0740 from Pateley - the next working is 0930 when the service goes hourly. That is correct. Further information has been on their website for several weeks. harrogatebus.co.uk/news.jsp?newsID=2023
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Post by 69340 on Jul 11, 2017 16:12:56 GMT 1
Yorkshire tiger have posted their changes on twitter
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Post by SF07 on Jul 12, 2017 20:50:31 GMT 1
Yorkshire tiger have posted their changes on twitter PDF link in the tweet is hosted on the parent company arrivabus.co.uk website rather than Yorkshire Tiger's. The additional details not previously mentioned in Metro's Changing Times booklet: The 0809 journey from Berry Brow on service 319 is re-timed to start at 0800 from Huddersfield. The 324 is re-timed to run half-hourly from Huddersfield at 05 and 35 past the hour, returning from Meltham Broadlands at 00 and 30 past the hour. The 366 is re-timed and will run from stand O at Huddersfield bus station. www.arrivabus.co.uk/globalassets/documents/yorkshire-services-documents/july-changes-for-web.pdf
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Post by westyorkshirebus on Jul 13, 2017 18:00:57 GMT 1
Looks like the issues with the early last bus to Thornton has been sorted....
Extra Journey on Service 607 from Monday 24th July
An extra journey will run on service 607 at 2240 from Bradford to Thornton Monday to Saturday, this helps replace the withdrawn Keighley Bus Company 2300 697 service.
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Post by SCH117X on Jul 17, 2017 19:08:02 GMT 1
Heard this morning that Transdev are to axe one of the first two weekday services on the 24 between Harrogate and Pateley; that's the 0700 or 0740 from Pateley - the next working is 0930 when the service goes hourly. That is correct. Further information has been on their website for several weeks. harrogatebus.co.uk/news.jsp?newsID=2023See the timetable is on there, also NYCC have done their own version with a typical fouled up comment that all services depart Harrogate and Pateley at 30 minutes past the hour. Er..0720 ?!!
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Post by sharksmith on Jul 20, 2017 18:56:20 GMT 1
Re-instated route from Monday 24 July.
Service affected: 653
Last updated: 20 July 2017 Service 653 (Bradford – Otley - Pool) was planned to be withdrawn on Saturday 22 July.
West Yorkshire Combined Authority (WYCA) have agreed to subsidise one weekday (Monday to Friday) round trip (0530 from Bradford Interchange and 0616 from Pool) from Monday 24 July.
The journey will continue to be operated by TLC Travel.
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Post by SF07 on Jul 20, 2017 18:57:52 GMT 1
A late change to the 653. The 0530 weekday journey from Bradford and 0616 weekday journey from Pool will continue to run from 24 July with funding from WYCA. These journeys will continue to be operated by TLC Travel. www.wymetro.com/travelnews/busalerts/653_Bradford_PoolEDIT: beaten by seconds to the news
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Post by deerfold on Jul 20, 2017 19:53:38 GMT 1
Re-instated route from Monday 24 July. Service affected: 653 Last updated: 20 July 2017 Service 653 (Bradford – Otley - Pool) was planned to be withdrawn on Saturday 22 July. West Yorkshire Combined Authority (WYCA) have agreed to subsidise one weekday (Monday to Friday) round trip (0530 from Bradford Interchange and 0616 from Pool) from Monday 24 July. The journey will continue to be operated by TLC Travel. That's a very odd journey to subsidise.
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Post by WYBS on Jul 21, 2017 19:04:02 GMT 1
I used the 762 to Harrogate yesterday and it was packed between Otley and Harrogate. None of the passengers could understand why it was being cancelled and even the driver, who was clearly a regular on the route said that he had complained to the duty manager at Keighley and senior management about the cancellation.
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Post by deerfold on Jul 21, 2017 19:31:26 GMT 1
I used the 762 to Harrogate yesterday and it was packed between Otley and Harrogate. None of the passengers could understand why it was being cancelled and even the driver, who was clearly a regular on the route said that he had complained to the duty manager at Keighley and senior management about the cancellation. Or even the 62 as it's been for a while now. That matches my observations - I've seen very few people travelling beyond Ilkley but not beyond Otley.
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Post by westyorkshirebus on Jul 21, 2017 21:10:20 GMT 1
I bet they were mostly pass holders though
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Post by deerfold on Jul 21, 2017 21:19:45 GMT 1
I bet they were mostly pass holders though That doesn't explain why they think it's still worth running to Otley.
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Post by www.buseireann.ie on Jul 21, 2017 23:25:09 GMT 1
One word, reimbursement! Don't forget North Yorkshire County Council don't believe in paying a fair price for passes unlike Metro so that's probably why it's being withdrawn with not many fare paying passengers using the service and overheads eating into what's being made. Connexions probably make it work through lower overheads.
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Post by deerfold on Jul 22, 2017 6:46:33 GMT 1
One word, reimbursement! Don't forget North Yorkshire County Council don't believe in paying a fair price for passes unlike Metro so that's probably why it's being withdrawn with not many fare paying passengers using the service and overheads eating into what's being made. Connexions probably make it work through lower overheads. That still doesn't explain why they think it's still worth running to Otley if hardly anyone is using the bus to get there. I'd understand more if they reverted to just running Keighley - Ilkley.
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Post by Arriva Wakefield on Jul 22, 2017 10:55:07 GMT 1
One word, reimbursement! Don't forget North Yorkshire County Council don't believe in paying a fair price for passes unlike Metro so that's probably why it's being withdrawn with not many fare paying passengers using the service and overheads eating into what's being made. Connexions probably make it work through lower overheads. That still doesn't explain why they think it's still worth running to Otley if hardly anyone is using the bus to get there. I'd understand more if they reverted to just running Keighley - Ilkley. Possibly the 62 may run on the opposite half hour to the 962 over this section, giving a combined 30 minute(ish) service between Otley, Burley & Ilkley.
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Post by stevieinselby on Jul 22, 2017 11:24:15 GMT 1
That still doesn't explain why they think it's still worth running to Otley if hardly anyone is using the bus to get there. I'd understand more if they reverted to just running Keighley - Ilkley. Possibly the 62 may run on the opposite half hour to the 962 over this section, giving a combined 30 minute(ish) service between Otley, Burley & Ilkley. Given that there are already 3 buses an hour between the X84 and X52, as well as the circuitous 962, it hardly seems like it's a route in desperate need of additional capacity...
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Post by deerfold on Jul 22, 2017 12:04:31 GMT 1
That still doesn't explain why they think it's still worth running to Otley if hardly anyone is using the bus to get there. I'd understand more if they reverted to just running Keighley - Ilkley. Possibly the 62 may run on the opposite half hour to the 962 over this section, giving a combined 30 minute(ish) service between Otley, Burley & Ilkley. Unfortunately they leave Ilkley and Otley 13/14 minutes apart.
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Post by WYBS on Jul 22, 2017 12:24:43 GMT 1
The simple reason that they run through to Otley is because of the Wharfedale links routes and I guess some drivers get the 62 between Keighley and Otley for their shifts.
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