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Post by 112jct41 on Dec 4, 2016 21:16:37 GMT 1
Judging by a tweeted picture yesterday the Sprinter now has a working desti Done by an enthusiastic person I believe. nope done by a driver.
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Post by Arriva Wakefield on Dec 5, 2016 13:37:28 GMT 1
Done by an enthusiastic person I believe. nope done by a driver. Not a driver!
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Post by SCH117X on Dec 6, 2016 20:39:14 GMT 1
White B10BLEs 569 and 1092 have swopped depots - 569 being back at Starbeck and 1092 now at York
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Post by SCH117X on Dec 9, 2016 23:24:25 GMT 1
Todays WYIS list shows the York fleet of having two on loan B10BLEs 1064 & 1092 (both white); the Unibus ones being shown as being withdrawn but still at York.
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Post by upasalmon70 on Dec 19, 2016 6:47:33 GMT 1
On the subject of school buses the Lancashire fleets are not all "low floor" as quoted earlier in the thread. Burnley has five Olympians (116, 962, 986, 2004 and 2007). And using high floor buses on school services is IMO a good thing as getting on them is probably the only daily exercise some school kids have! When I was small I had to get on and off one of these! www.flickr.com/photos/johnmhague/14686588426I go back to the days of rear entrance half cabs but I must point out some of Transdevs school fleet dates back to 1989 and the Volvo Olympians from 1998 so they are knocking on a bit. As for exercise kids would still have to climb the stairs on a low floor decker!
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Post by upasalmon70 on Jan 10, 2017 18:25:12 GMT 1
Maximost Bonny New Yearode folks!
I would like to know have any non-DDA buses been seen on Transdev operated school services? Harrogate and Keighley have, or had a large allocation late last year.
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Post by neukit on Jan 10, 2017 23:07:16 GMT 1
Maximost Bonny New Yearode folks! I would like to know have any non-DDA buses been seen on Transdev operated school services? Harrogate and Keighley have, or had a large allocation late last year. I think they are generally still in use on their usual school haunts. The Burnley based ones certainly are, along with the various other operators around East Lancs.
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Post by SCH117X on Jan 10, 2017 23:24:55 GMT 1
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Post by Deleted on Jan 11, 2017 9:28:29 GMT 1
I would like to know have any non-DDA buses been seen on Transdev operated school services? Harrogate and Keighley have, or had a large allocation late last year.[/quote]
Two were out & about in Keighley last week
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Post by upasalmon70 on Jan 19, 2017 10:01:07 GMT 1
I could understand this if this was a small operator but this is a multinational company and they are not setting a good example by operating buses going back to 1989/90 on school services. These should have gone a decade ago. Any small firm could point to Transdev and say "If they're getting away with running nonDDA buses, why can't we?" I wonder what happens if one of these special contractors had to pick up a wheelchair bound child? Its going to happen soon, not necessarily in Yorkshire, but somewhere. Transdev could easily afford 30 second hand DDA compliant buses.
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Post by SCH117X on Jan 19, 2017 14:15:12 GMT 1
Why would school kids need a DDA bus other than some being so overweight and unfit? They are not "getting away" with anything, the DDA specs do not apply.
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Post by A1YBG on Jan 19, 2017 15:40:55 GMT 1
Why would school kids need a DDA bus other than some being so overweight and unfit? They are not "getting away" with anything, the DDA specs do not apply. Is it if it's a closed door contract then any type of vehicle can be used? Sent from my SM-G930F using proboards
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Post by SCH117X on Jan 19, 2017 15:49:38 GMT 1
Why would school kids need a DDA bus other than some being so overweight and unfit? They are not "getting away" with anything, the DDA specs do not apply. Is it if it's a closed door contract then any type of vehicle can be used? Sent from my SM-G930F using proboards The DDA regulations apply to public service vehicles not those operated on private / closed door contracts.
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Post by westyorkshirebus on Jan 19, 2017 18:15:00 GMT 1
And if there was a regular wheelchair user on the school service, you'd bet they'd allocate a low floor bus to said service.
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Post by upasalmon70 on Jan 19, 2017 18:28:25 GMT 1
So basically if you are a wheelchair bound child, and your school is served by a "closed contract" operator, its hard cheese.
As I have said in a previous post, some children would still have to climb the stairs on a DDA compliant double decker, so the exercise argument is a red herring.
Transdev is a multi national company and can/should do better than this in 2017. In my home area (Merseyside) even smaller firms don't have 1980s buses on school contracts.
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Post by kendall17 on Jan 19, 2017 19:28:02 GMT 1
So basically if you are a wheelchair bound child, and your school is served by a "closed contract" operator, its hard cheese. As I have said in a previous post, some children would still have to climb the stairs on a DDA compliant double decker, so the exercise argument is a red herring. Transdev is a multi national company and can/should do better than this in 2017. In my home area (Merseyside) even smaller firms don't have 1980s buses on school contracts. Closed contracts know who they're picking up - a passenger list. If a passenger requires wheelchair access a DDA vehicle would be provided. This applies to Transdev, First and all operators. They're all meeting the requirements so no issues whatsoever
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Post by SCH117X on Jan 19, 2017 19:38:59 GMT 1
Meanwhile back on actual fleet news issues....B7 1701 has received a rear end promo of 'amazing drivers'.
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Post by neukit on Jan 19, 2017 21:36:27 GMT 1
So basically if you are a wheelchair bound child, and your school is served by a "closed contract" operator, its hard cheese. As I have said in a previous post, some children would still have to climb the stairs on a DDA compliant double decker, so the exercise argument is a red herring. Transdev is a multi national company and can/should do better than this in 2017. In my home area (Merseyside) even smaller firms don't have 1980s buses on school contracts. You do realise that the local authority specifies the vehicle requirements, as part of the tendering process? Many authorities specify an age limit for the buses used (e.g. max 15, 18 years), whilst others do not set any such limit. It is considerably cheaper to run older buses on school contracts, and many authorities realise that their costs could increase considerably if they introduced an age limit. Its clear that Lancashire and North Yorkshire Councils do not specify an age limit, hence the widespread use of older buses on school contracts in those areas, by both large and small operators.
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Post by upasalmon70 on Jan 19, 2017 22:18:37 GMT 1
And if the brakes fail, or the wheel comes off (GHA, another operator with a superannuated fleet that was not DDA compliant), then is it cheaper to pay compensation to injured or maimed parents and children?
Its to be hoped Transdev maintain the ancient buses they have. GHA and Transdev are/were the same size.
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Post by SCH117X on Jan 19, 2017 22:50:21 GMT 1
Some comments here are verging on the ridiculous IMO. Anyone who sees Transdevs school buses can see that they are well maintained. The fact that a vehicle is elderly is irrelevant - the main problem with old vehicles is typically corrosion and if a bus is sound in that respect then its no different to any other bus in terms of maintenance - brakes and wheels in particular. Maybe mods might like to dump all the "ancient buses" etc comments into a separate locked thread. Taking it to the logical conclusion we should have all preserved buses banned from the roads as obviously they are going to disintegrate at any moment.
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Post by northerner on Jan 19, 2017 22:50:40 GMT 1
I'm sure the buses Transdev use are maintained to a safe standard, irrespective of the age
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Post by wibble on Jan 20, 2017 15:40:10 GMT 1
I'm sure the buses Transdev use are maintained to a safe standard, irrespective of the age Having worked in at First, Arriva and Transdev involved in the maintenance I would say Transdev have the best maintained fleet out of the 4 garages (First Halifax, Hudds, Arriva Dewsbury, Transdev Keighley) in West Yorkshire I have worked at. However I must stress Trasndev maintenance goes far above what is 'safe' and a lot of preventative maintenance i.e. Changing units before they fail (rather than when they do), refurbs etc etc. All the other depots operate safe maintenance policies but less on the preventative side and more reactive.
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Post by driver6540 on Jan 20, 2017 22:13:15 GMT 1
I'm sure the buses Transdev use are maintained to a safe standard, irrespective of the age Having worked in at First, Arriva and Transdev involved in the maintenance I would say Transdev have the best maintained fleet out of the 4 garages (First Halifax, Hudds, Arriva Dewsbury, Transdev Keighley) in West Yorkshire I have worked at. However I must stress Trasndev maintenance goes far above what is 'safe' and a lot of preventative maintenance i.e. Changing units before they fail (rather than when they do), refurbs etc etc. All the other depots operate safe maintenance policies but less on the preventative side and more reactive. Info like that is good to know. All too often we hear of supposedly reputable companies getting rebuked by the traffic commissioners for lax maintenance procedures etc. So good on Transdev.
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Post by upasalmon70 on Jan 22, 2017 22:50:07 GMT 1
I will close my argument by accepting Transdev maintain their fleet to a safe standard, far better than GHA did.
But there are enough used DDA compliant double deckers on the market for Transdev to replace the 30 elderly buses they use.
I rest my case there.
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Post by Marcus on Jan 28, 2017 21:16:22 GMT 1
Probably a 7900EH?
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