|
Post by stevieinselby on Nov 16, 2016 22:01:14 GMT 1
Or maybe the 923 as that's also a 1 bus route? Having seen passenger numbers on the 923, and some of the lanes it runs down around East Keswick, I would have thought that was the best bet ... although very glad that the minibus wasn't running on the route earlier this year when my walking group walked the Ebor Way and packed the little Solo out with up to, on one day, I think 19 of us ... no way we would have been able to do that with a minibus.
|
|
|
Post by 1071 on Nov 17, 2016 9:17:12 GMT 1
It's the staff van isn't it I'm sure someone said it was on here or on fbook or twitter
|
|
|
Post by SCH117X on Nov 19, 2016 23:46:02 GMT 1
Latest (18/11/16) WYIS list does not list the Merc. Tadfaster 1015 is listed as being for scrap after its accident and the remainder of Yorks B10BLEs are listed as being withdrawn in December(due to the ending of Unibus)
|
|
|
Post by northerner on Nov 20, 2016 20:48:57 GMT 1
Latest (18/11/16) WYIS list does not list the Merc. Tadfaster 1015 is listed as being for scrap after its accident and the remainder of Yorks B10BLEs are listed as being withdrawn in December(due to the ending of Unibus) As the Unibus B10s have recently been refurbished wonder if they will go to Keighley to replace the B10s there as they are still in original spec and look rather worn now
|
|
hstjohnny
Forum Member
Still Awaiting anything other than a Wright Eclipse!
Posts: 240
|
Post by hstjohnny on Nov 21, 2016 13:00:12 GMT 1
X569 YUG (569) has now transferred from Harrogate to York to replace 1015
|
|
|
Post by upasalmon70 on Nov 23, 2016 4:30:37 GMT 1
Hello I am an old member with a new name, my lastpost being in 2014.
Transdev Harrogate's most recent fleetlist shows they still had this year 11 step entry buses, including three Dennis Javelins, a Volvo B10B and the rest Olympians.
Given that all service buses have to be DDA compliant on 1st January 2017 aren't they leaving it a bit late? Keighley still had eight Olympians but the Lancashire fleets are now all low floor, but Harrogate and Keighley need to get a move on!
|
|
|
Post by Burnside on Nov 23, 2016 7:57:11 GMT 1
Depends if the school contracts are 'closed house' so to speak. If they are, and the buses are only used for this work, DDA requirements don't apply.
|
|
kendall17
Forum Member
Justice for the 96!
Posts: 4,514
|
Post by kendall17 on Nov 23, 2016 8:26:37 GMT 1
I see the tinpot firm had their modernised bread van out in service, paper destination n all
|
|
|
Post by SCH117X on Nov 23, 2016 14:34:29 GMT 1
If there is any need to make any part of the school bus fleet low floor there will an almost immediate availability of vehicles, with no doubt a reshuffle, arising from the arrival of the new Coastliner vehicles.
|
|
|
Post by SCH117X on Nov 23, 2016 16:11:16 GMT 1
I see the tinpot firm had their modernised bread van out in service, paper destination n all Its a demonstrator, reg is BT15 KLZ and has previously seen use with Stagecoach Fife, McGills Greenock, Newport Bus and Stagecoach South Wales (Porth).
|
|
|
Post by SCH117X on Nov 23, 2016 16:15:04 GMT 1
Latest (18/11/16) WYIS list does not list the Merc. Tadfaster 1015 is listed as being for scrap after its accident and the remainder of Yorks B10BLEs are listed as being withdrawn in December(due to the ending of Unibus) As the Unibus B10s have recently been refurbished wonder if they will go to Keighley to replace the B10s there as they are still in original spec and look rather worn now Yesterday WYIS list now has them as being withdrawn from York so implying future use elsewhere.
|
|
|
Post by northerner on Nov 23, 2016 21:31:16 GMT 1
As the Unibus B10s have recently been refurbished wonder if they will go to Keighley to replace the B10s there as they are still in original spec and look rather worn now Yesterday WYIS list now has them as being withdrawn from York so implying future use elsewhere. Ah, that would make sense then as Alex has already confirmed all jobs are protected, so maybe some new routes coming up? Or a fleet reshuffle to meet DDA rules
|
|
|
Post by Arriva Wakefield on Nov 24, 2016 8:59:22 GMT 1
Yesterday WYIS list now has them as being withdrawn from York so implying future use elsewhere. Ah, that would make sense then as Alex has already confirmed all jobs are protected, so maybe some new routes coming up? Or a fleet reshuffle to meet DDA rules No need for redundancies at York as most drivers are simply leaving. I believe at least 5 are starting at First York the day after the 44 finishes, and currently there are a few drivers on loan from Lancashire to keep the 44 running.
|
|
|
Post by 1875bd12teo on Nov 25, 2016 0:43:36 GMT 1
There was 2 Open Top Plaxton Presidents at Intack today parked up in Green Edinburgh Tours Livery
|
|
|
Post by upasalmon70 on Nov 25, 2016 12:38:08 GMT 1
I am not saying this will occur but when Blackpool take delivery of ADL E400s 411-435 these could replace ex IOMT DAF DB250 numbers ,354-372 which could be sold to Transdev Harrogate and Keighley. A few Dennis Enviros could be added. The DB250s, if Transdev want them could be painted yellow and used on schools replacing the elderly step -entry fleet.
|
|
|
Post by SCH117X on Nov 25, 2016 16:15:38 GMT 1
There was 2 Open Top Plaxton Presidents at Intack today parked up in Green Edinburgh Tours Livery There are five V519ESC-V521ESC and V525ESC all for York once covered to electric propulsion. There are also 7 spare low floor enclosed deckers at present (according to todays WYIS list) 439,440, 2010, 2013, 2015, 2702 and 2705.. The ten to be displaced at Malton are all leased according to the same WYIS list so are to be returned off leases once the new deckers are in use.
|
|
|
Post by SCH117X on Nov 27, 2016 11:45:18 GMT 1
On the subject of school buses the Lancashire fleets are not all "low floor" as quoted earlier in the thread. Burnley has five Olympians (116, 962, 986, 2004 and 2007). And using high floor buses on school services is IMO a good thing as getting on them is probably the only daily exercise some school kids have! When I was small I had to get on and off one of these! www.flickr.com/photos/johnmhague/14686588426
|
|
|
Post by peteleeds on Nov 30, 2016 22:14:44 GMT 1
I see the tinpot firm had their modernised bread van out in service, paper destination n all Was out today on the 966 Yeadon Guiseley shopper. Wonder what the passengers think of it ? To be fair as it drove past my work it looked smart. Electric displays were working on front and side. Just looks a bit different to what we used to. But if these type of buses help reduce costs to save some routes im all for it
|
|
|
Post by Burnside on Dec 1, 2016 18:10:29 GMT 1
The only issue for me with using Sprinters is capacity. If they are put on a route with a low frequency and get full part way through the journey, for all the operational savings, revenue will be missed by people left behind.
Minibuses are a good idea, but need to be used on routes where the low capacity isn't ever an issue, or on routes with a sufficiently frequent service to avoid losing customers if they can't get on.
|
|
|
Post by stevieinselby on Dec 1, 2016 22:24:32 GMT 1
The only issue for me with using Sprinters is capacity. If they are put on a route with a low frequency and get full part way through the journey, for all the operational savings, revenue will be missed by people left behind. Minibuses are a good idea, but need to be used on routes where the low capacity isn't ever an issue, or on routes with a sufficiently frequent service to avoid losing customers if they can't get on. Which is why the town buses may be a better bet than something like the 923, where a group of walkers doing the Ebor Way could easily fill it. The town buses are all at least hourly, I think, and less susceptible to that kind of sudden splurge - and for some people there may be the option of getting another bus and/or walking some of the way.
|
|
|
Post by Burnside on Dec 2, 2016 0:03:58 GMT 1
Even hourly could be problematic.
If someone walked up the street for the bus and couldn't get on cos it only had 18 seats and was full and had an hour to wait for the next one, they likely wouldn't wait for the next one, they'd get the car out or find another means of transport. I'm sure they'd also think twice about using the bus in future.
|
|
|
Post by neukit on Dec 2, 2016 0:42:20 GMT 1
Even hourly could be problematic. If someone walked up the street for the bus and couldn't get on cos it only had 18 seats and was full and had an hour to wait for the next one, they likely wouldn't wait for the next one, they'd get the car out or find another means of transport. I'm sure they'd also think twice about using the bus in future. But if the service isn't viable using a more costly bus, then there may be no service anyway. So the car would still have to come out! Since the demise of the cheap to run Merc 709, many routes have struggled because Solos etc are so much more expensive to run.
|
|
|
Post by Burnside on Dec 2, 2016 16:58:06 GMT 1
Exactly.
It's a balancing act of providing sufficient capacity while keeping operating costs low.
If there's a route where 18 seats would be fine for every journey, then Sprinters or the like are not a bad idea.
It's just a matter of getting that capacity/operating costs issue balanced out.
|
|
|
Post by SCH117X on Dec 4, 2016 16:50:26 GMT 1
Judging by a tweeted picture yesterday the Sprinter now has a working desti
|
|
|
Post by Arriva Wakefield on Dec 4, 2016 21:02:07 GMT 1
Judging by a tweeted picture yesterday the Sprinter now has a working desti Done by an enthusiastic person I believe.
|
|