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Post by jdodger08 on Sept 9, 2014 10:24:55 GMT 1
I was looking through the Arriva Yorkshire Facebook to see the photos from the 268 launch and noticed in the description of the photo Album there was something about grand yorkshire connections...
- "This MAX service will be the first of many ‘grand Yorkshire connections’ which will be introduced to the region over the next 12 months."
Does this mean MAX will be coming to more services?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 9, 2014 15:05:00 GMT 1
I was looking through the Arriva Yorkshire Facebook to see the photos from the 268 launch and noticed in the description of the photo Album there was something about grand yorkshire connections... - "This MAX service will be the first of many ‘grand Yorkshire connections’ which will be introduced to the region over the next 12 months." Does this mean MAX will be coming to more services? If 110 doesn't go sapphire i'd put money on it going MAX,trying to think what other routes there is? 126/7,229,220/1/2 (as an attempt get passengers off first between Morley and leeds) or 202/3 are the only ones I can think of,unless we get a surprise one like maybe Selby - leeds/york routes
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Post by westyorkshirebus on Sept 9, 2014 18:10:17 GMT 1
Its supposed to be for long distance services and they need to be frequent enough to justify branding, so I'd say the 202/203, 229, 110, 415 are most likely. Of course the 110 is also most likely to go Sapphire.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 9, 2014 21:37:10 GMT 1
Its supposed to be for long distance services and they need to be frequent enough to justify branding, so I'd say the 202/203, 229, 110, 415 are most likely. Of course the 110 is also most likely to go Sapphire. If it takes just over an hour on the 268 to get from one end to the other than the 202/203 should as it takes around 1:40 minutes from Leeds to Huddersfield and vice versa and with it being my local I just hope the 202/203 will get branded MAX buses. Michael Windle
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Post by driver6540 on Sept 9, 2014 22:02:12 GMT 1
Apparently, the 202/203 has been considered Dewsbury depot's "flagship" route since Arriva took over, Therefore it's quite probable, that should "Sapphire" come to this area, then this will probably be the first service to benefit from it.
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Post by Jonesy on Sept 10, 2014 20:39:34 GMT 1
Apperntly theres new buses for 189,184,185,410 so ive herd from some staff at castleford
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Post by Matty on Sept 11, 2014 0:32:50 GMT 1
I heard that the 110 is going sapphire with Brand new E400's
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Post by timelesstable on Sept 11, 2014 8:10:36 GMT 1
I heard that the 110 is going sapphire with Brand new E400's Or the version I heard which was that the Arriva Yorkshire Management team are going make or might now have already made a submission to Sunderland to upgrade the 110 to sapphire
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Post by timelesstable on Sept 11, 2014 8:14:01 GMT 1
Apperntly theres new buses for 189,184,185,410 so ive herd from some staff at castleford More than likely since these services are operated by the largest number of oldest batch of buses ALX400's (651-674) currently in the Arriva Yorkshire fleet, but will these be brand spanking new or newer buses displaced by the next round of new buses.
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Post by jdodger08 on Sept 11, 2014 9:07:56 GMT 1
Apperntly theres new buses for 189,184,185,410 so ive herd from some staff at castleford More than likely since these services are operated by the largest number of oldest batch of buses ALX400's (651-674) currently in the Arriva Yorkshire fleet, but will these be brand spanking new or newer buses displaced by the next round of new buses. When Castleford gets new busses they are usually for a particular route, like the tempos and hybrids both for 166/163. So unless they are going to displace the hybrids converting the 166/3 into Max or Sapphire routes with new busses, I think they will be getting new busses outright for 184/5/9 410, as those alx's are god awful now. I doubt the 166/3 will get a relaunch as it would be their 3rd relaunch of this route since 2009 when they got the Tempos.
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Post by timelesstable on Sept 11, 2014 10:07:57 GMT 1
More than likely since these services are operated by the largest number of oldest batch of buses ALX400's (651-674) currently in the Arriva Yorkshire fleet, but will these be brand spanking new or newer buses displaced by the next round of new buses. When Castleford gets new busses they are usually for a particular route, like the tempos and hybrids both for 166/163. So unless they are going to displace the hybrids converting the 166/3 into Max or Sapphire routes with new busses, I think they will be getting new busses outright for 184/5/9 410, as those alx's are god awful now. I doubt the 166/3 will get a relaunch as it would be their 3rd relaunch of this route since 2009 when they got the Tempos. With the exception of the 163/6 none of Castlefords Routes are branded and while initially the Tempos were branded for the 163/6 they didn't last long on there. Again with the exception of the 163/6 anything can be allocated anywhere excluding where singles are specifically required i.e. 167/8 The problems with the 184/5/9 is at the Wakefield end they interwork with the 150 short workings to Knottingley and at Pontefract with a number of the Pontefract Doncaster services. Within Arriva Yorkshire with the exception of Heckmondwike where services into work at Leeds in the morning and evening peaks all other branded services are more or less are on routes with dedicated running boards throughout the day. The services highlighted at Castleford don't fall into that category.
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Post by jdodger08 on Sept 11, 2014 11:45:25 GMT 1
When Castleford gets new busses they are usually for a particular route, like the tempos and hybrids both for 166/163. So unless they are going to displace the hybrids converting the 166/3 into Max or Sapphire routes with new busses, I think they will be getting new busses outright for 184/5/9 410, as those alx's are god awful now. I doubt the 166/3 will get a relaunch as it would be their 3rd relaunch of this route since 2009 when they got the Tempos. With the exception of the 163/6 none of Castlefords Routes are branded and while initially the Tempos were branded for the 163/6 they didn't last long on there. Again with the exception of the 163/6 anything can be allocated anywhere excluding where singles are specifically required i.e. 167/8 The problems with the 184/5/9 is at the Wakefield end they interwork with the 150 short workings to Knottingley and at Pontefract with a number of the Pontefract Doncaster services. Within Arriva Yorkshire with the exception of Heckmondwike where services into work at Leeds in the morning and evening peaks all other branded services are more or less are on routes with dedicated running boards throughout the day. The services highlighted at Castleford don't fall into that category. There is a lot of timetable changes coming to the Castleford depot so maybe we could see less interworkings to allow for the 184/5/9 to run to a dedicated batch of buses
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Post by alx400 on Sept 11, 2014 23:49:12 GMT 1
With the exception of the 163/6 none of Castlefords Routes are branded and while initially the Tempos were branded for the 163/6 they didn't last long on there. Again with the exception of the 163/6 anything can be allocated anywhere excluding where singles are specifically required i.e. 167/8 The problems with the 184/5/9 is at the Wakefield end they interwork with the 150 short workings to Knottingley and at Pontefract with a number of the Pontefract Doncaster services. Within Arriva Yorkshire with the exception of Heckmondwike where services into work at Leeds in the morning and evening peaks all other branded services are more or less are on routes with dedicated running boards throughout the day. The services highlighted at Castleford don't fall into that category. There is a lot of timetable changes coming to the Castleford depot so maybe we could see less interworkings to allow for the 184/5/9 to run to a dedicated batch of buses The 189 interworks with the 410 so you could brand a certain number of new deckers with 410/189, the 185/184 would be more complicated as these are more 'travelling' runs mostly to get people to Pontefract for sherburn and Doncaster runs and to Wakefield for knottingley runs then back to finish their shift/have their break, would be a logistical nightmare. Best way if they were to give Castleford 'max' buses would be to brand them like the 200 darts, wakie buses say 'little buses big in wakefield' cas say 'yorkshire'. Would have to be 'taking Yorkshire to the MAX' or something. Many rumours are flying about at the moment concerning deckers, ones ive heared are: 1) wakie getting new max enviro 400's for 110, cas getting 1600's to replace 600's 2) wakie getting new max enviro 400's for 110, cas getting 1500's to replace 600's 3) cas get new enviro 400's to replace 600's If Castleford got the new deckers it would put them with the newest fleet out of all of Arriva Yorkshire, no bus would be older than a 09 plate.
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Post by Arriva Wakefield on Sept 12, 2014 0:02:06 GMT 1
There is a lot of timetable changes coming to the Castleford depot so maybe we could see less interworkings to allow for the 184/5/9 to run to a dedicated batch of buses The 189 interworks with the 410 so you could brand a certain number of new deckers with 410/189, the 185/184 would be more complicated as these are more 'travelling' runs mostly to get people to Pontefract for sherburn and Doncaster runs and to Wakefield for knottingley runs then back to finish their shift/have their break, would be a logistical nightmare. Best way if they were to give Castleford 'max' buses would be to brand them like the 200 darts, wakie buses say 'little buses big in wakefield' cas say 'yorkshire'. Would have to be 'taking Yorkshire to the MAX' or something. Many rumours are flying about at the moment concerning deckers, ones ive heared are: 1) wakie getting new max enviro 400's for 110, cas getting 1600's to replace 600's 2) wakie getting new max enviro 400's for 110, cas getting 1500's to replace 600's 3) cas get new enviro 400's to replace 600's If Castleford got the new deckers it would put them with the newest fleet out of all of Arriva Yorkshire, no bus would be older than a 09 plate. Wasn't there an order for 7/8 E400s as part of this years deliveries, allegedly for Castleford - this could be them!
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Post by alx400 on Sept 12, 2014 0:06:36 GMT 1
Wasn't there an order for 7/8 E400s as part of this years deliveries, allegedly for Castleford - this could be them! I hadn't heated that one, if true itd leave Castleford a good 6/7 short to replace all the alx's unless they gave half at start of next year, max's for 410/189's then some more year after
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Post by hstjohnny on Sept 12, 2014 14:14:42 GMT 1
I heard new E400's for BI, With 1600's going to Selby/Hecky to replace X***YUG Reg Presidents
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Post by alx400 on Sept 12, 2014 14:20:18 GMT 1
I heard new E400's for BI, With 1600's going to Selby/Hecky to replace X***YUG Reg Presidents Are the x reg's dda compliant? Seems strange they'd get rid of them before the W's, unless cas got them haha
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Post by andyk4050 on Sept 12, 2014 14:40:08 GMT 1
I heard new E400's for BI, With 1600's going to Selby/Hecky to replace X***YUG Reg Presidents Are the x reg's dda compliant? Seems strange they'd get rid of them before the W's, unless cas got them haha The x reg presidents arent DDA compliant because of the wheelchair area being too small
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Post by clifton on Sept 12, 2014 20:21:37 GMT 1
Would have thought that the new vehicles will go on the 110 or perhaps the 202/3. The Darwens on the 202/3 could do with being replaced / cascaded.
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Post by whereami on Sept 12, 2014 20:23:18 GMT 1
Rumours that I've heard are: Hecky's 653/4/6/93-6 are getting withdrawn, and the 1600's still at Hecky will move to Castleford, Hecky is 'supposed' to be getting E400's possibly 19 if one for one Dewsbury also rumoured to be getting some E400's and 202/3 will go to MAX spec, the 1800's are rumoured to be off to Tiger.
But, these are rumours at the moment
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Post by westyorkshirebus on Sept 12, 2014 20:33:28 GMT 1
It's going to have to be a big order to satisfy all these rumours. Every depot bar Selby is getting 2 dozen new double decks so far!
Why are the Darwens is desperate need to be moved off the 202/203, they hasn't been on there very long and received a refurbishment.
I hate the rumours part of this hobby, enthusiasts need to remember that in most cases 99% of bus drivers know no more than anyone else until a proper announcement is made. There are often rumours in my company (not bus industry), but nobody really knows anything.
Flickr is the worst for know it alls letting everyone know their so called insider gossip. Of course when the photo and comment occurred 2 years earlier they now look daft.
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Post by whereami on Sept 13, 2014 8:10:44 GMT 1
I'm based at Hecky as a driver, so, what I put is what I've been told by one of the reliable fitters
Yes, 653/4/6/93-6 will be getting withdrawn next year for certain, as they will be time expired at 15 year old.
Like you say, would be big order, so, yes, I can see that there might be conflicts on truths and rumours, which is why I put on my earlier comment, they are just rumours.
As for the 1800's at Dewsbury, the drivers don't like them, the only time they had Volvo vehicles, was when they had 1107-12 a couple of years ago, and they didn't like them either. They seem to like Dennis/DAF vehicles.
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Post by mark51953 on Sept 13, 2014 9:25:33 GMT 1
Well Selby may be on the cards for a upgrade on the 415 as been asking drivers for volunteers just to go on a 415 rota and maybe new buses so will this mean one thing Saphia or Max coming to Selby that is the question ??
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Post by Deleted on Sept 13, 2014 10:00:53 GMT 1
Well Selby may be on the cards for a upgrade on the 415 as been asking drivers for volunteers just to go on a 415 rota and maybe new buses so will this mean one thing Saphia or Max coming to Selby that is the question ?? I didn't think MAX had dedicated drivers? Even if 415 does go sapphire it could just mean refurbished buses (or have arriva learnt there lesson after the problems with the other refurbished sapphire buses)
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Post by tyresmoke on Sept 13, 2014 18:00:16 GMT 1
Yes Max is getting dedicated rotas at other depots, I know my depot are currently going through Max training at present, even though our implementation isn't until early 2015... Think it's because it's tagged on the end of the Sapphire training that me and my Sapphire colleagues have just gone through Some Volvo B9s were offered to North East but we've managed to find a batch of (new) dealer stock ones - unsure whether we are still taking some cascades from Yorkshire or not though. Likely to be Lowlanders if anything though.
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