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Post by timelesstable on Oct 31, 2013 21:21:11 GMT 1
Yorkshire Tiger have also got some new ticket rolls with their new name and branding on them.
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Post by timelesstable on Oct 31, 2013 21:21:39 GMT 1
One of the Airport Scania's now has Tiger fleetnames on Centrebus livery. Was driving at the time so couldn't get the reg no. 784
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Post by T101VWU on Nov 1, 2013 1:30:29 GMT 1
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Post by Arriva Wakefield on Nov 1, 2013 10:33:39 GMT 1
Interesting that all the Metro timetables for last weekends service changes still have the Centrebus logo on them.
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Post by Matty on Nov 1, 2013 14:01:43 GMT 1
Yes most vehicles now have yorkshiretiger fleetnames applied.
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Post by rossbailey on Nov 1, 2013 15:02:58 GMT 1
Now I wonder if they will delay repainting and branding the Airport Scania's with the Metro tenders been up for renewal early next year? As they may be less buses required if they lose any of the work seen as First in Leeds will most likely be putting a rival bid for the 757 route again.
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Post by kendall17 on Nov 1, 2013 15:41:11 GMT 1
Isn't the majority of the 757 commercial?
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Post by Arriva Wakefield on Nov 1, 2013 18:28:23 GMT 1
Now I wonder if they will delay repainting and branding the Airport Scania's with the Metro tenders been up for renewal early next year? As they may be less buses required if they lose any of the work seen as First in Leeds will most likely be putting a rival bid for the 757 route again. And why do you think this may delay repainting? I'm sure if they were repainted then the vinyls could be removed if needed, or maybe they may not even be route branded this time round.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 1, 2013 20:35:09 GMT 1
One of the Leeds based Optare Solos has been repainted but minus the decals, seen it this morning. lol
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Post by www.buseireann.ie on Nov 1, 2013 22:53:37 GMT 1
Customer numbers on the 757 have grown even more since Centrebus got the route (including some mid to late evening journeys, the 21.00 from Murgatroyds always seems to have a healthy load) so it could be a case that Yorkshire Tiger may make the majority of the timetable a commercial one, I know some journeys do run light (especally early on any morning) however would the current funding from the Airport company be all that's needed to cover these journeys thus cutting the need for Metro funding and involvement? It wouldn't be surprising if Yorkshire Tiger decided to take on the proposed 757 enhancements on a commercial basis as well in order to protect their interests in this gold mine and to develop it further.
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Post by dwarfer1979 on Nov 4, 2013 9:23:04 GMT 1
Customer numbers on the 757 have grown even more since Centrebus got the route (including some mid to late evening journeys, the 21.00 from Murgatroyds always seems to have a healthy load) so it could be a case that Yorkshire Tiger may make the majority of the timetable a commercial one, I know some journeys do run light (especally early on any morning) however would the current funding from the Airport company be all that's needed to cover these journeys thus cutting the need for Metro funding and involvement? It wouldn't be surprising if Yorkshire Tiger decided to take on the proposed 757 enhancements on a commercial basis as well in order to protect their interests in this gold mine and to develop it further. It is commercial (excluding a couple of early & late journeys + possibly Sundays) and was from the moment Centrebus took it on (the spat with First when Centrebus started the route came out of the commercial registration), there is a partnership with the airport but that largely revolves around marketing, ticket deals & access and not operational funding. There had been a commercial proposal for frequency enhancements for the 757 knocking around for about 12 months and was very nearly implemented early in the year, never got a clear explanation of what happened to the proposal (I suspect it was more down to the wider, long term, operational landscape and questions about its future form but that is largely a guess), whether there are discussions on extra enhancements, longer days or enhancements at weekend or the like, or a bit of kick start funding to reduce the risk I'm no longer in a position to know.
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Post by www.buseireann.ie on Nov 4, 2013 12:00:03 GMT 1
Ah, glad the question of how many journeys run commercially has been cleared up, I know the daytime journeys ran commercially but wasn't sure if any journeys after 7pm were. So going by my own experience of passenger numbers and your reply, journeys before 6.30am and the last journeys from Leeds and the Airport run with funding. All the others it seems run commercially.
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Post by SCH117X on Nov 15, 2013 19:36:35 GMT 1
The Office of Fair Trading are investigating Arrivas takeover of Centrebus Holdings.
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Post by Burnside on Nov 15, 2013 22:54:19 GMT 1
What is there to investigate?
It's not like a dominant operator taking over the competition, Arriva already owned 40%!
Ridiculous!
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Post by Matty on Nov 16, 2013 0:23:50 GMT 1
Because the owner of Centrebus owns about 20% of Arriva!
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Post by rwilkes on Nov 16, 2013 0:25:35 GMT 1
Ridiculous! Just what else did you expect from the OFT? Its a government agency set up to waste your money and mine!
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Post by rwilkes on Nov 16, 2013 0:26:33 GMT 1
"Because the owner of Centrebus owns about 20% of Arriva! " Then he is rich beyond anyone's wildest dreams
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Post by Matty on Nov 16, 2013 0:35:29 GMT 1
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Post by rwilkes on Nov 16, 2013 0:51:19 GMT 1
'He is yes, He owns Centrebus, South Lancs & D&G Bus as well as having shares in other companies.'
But he does not own 20% of Arriva. Compared with that what he has is peanuts.
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Post by timelesstable on Nov 16, 2013 10:30:53 GMT 1
Because the owner of Centrebus owns about 20% of Arriva! You might want to check your source of this since Arriva is a Subsidiary of Deutsche Bahn AG, the German Railway
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Post by www.buseireann.ie on Nov 16, 2013 11:43:43 GMT 1
If it turns out that he's got shares in DB (as in the comment about him having a supposedly or not 20% stake in Arriva, you know what talk is like for getting mixed up and diluted) then he really must be worth making freinds with! Note this comment is pure speculation, personal thought, rumour, call it what you like, 100% pure not proven true comment!
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Post by A1YBG on Nov 16, 2013 15:30:45 GMT 1
Airport links now have yorkshire tiger on side where the subsidies are shown (lba and metro)
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Post by rwilkes on Nov 16, 2013 23:56:59 GMT 1
All the DB shared are owned by the German Government. Both DB and Transdev are nationalised industries!
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Post by dwarfer1979 on Nov 18, 2013 9:51:26 GMT 1
Julian Peddle does not own Centrebus, he has a minority investment (and is a director) in Centrebus alongside the founders of the two halves of the business (Leicester & Luton) - though I think the share holdings are now a similar size between the 3 owners, as he does with D&G (including SLT) and a couple of other operators, he does not outright own any of them. He is more active in the management of SLT and has little day to day involvement in the running of Centrebus. He certainly has no involvement with Arriva which is 100% owned by Deutsche Bahn (owned by the German Government) though he has sold a number of businesses to them over the years (Stevensons, MK Metro, D&G Stoke & West Midlands for example). It is difficult to see where the competition issues are in the owner of 40% of the business buying out the remaining 60% so I suspect this is going to go no further than the initial investigation of the facts of the sale, though you do wonder how it got this far without being dismissed as unnecessary. You assume if sufficient complaints from the right organisations are received about a takeover then the OFT feel an investigation has to be started regardless of how little there is to investigate - does make you wonder who made the complaints and why they did so?
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Post by driver6540 on Nov 29, 2013 20:04:07 GMT 1
Didn't really know which column to put this in, But rather than starting a new one i thought id try this one. Last saturday (am), i noticed a YT Evolution in service on 262, immediately i noticed it had a broken front numberplate, reading E55--- instead of AE55---. I next saw this bus on wednesday (pm) still with the same broken numberplate. Maybe summat and nowt or too trivial to mention to some, But the fact is technically this bus was allowed to run illegally for a number of days. I've no need to go into detail, because most on this forum will know the legalities regarding the correct display of numberplates. But if someone like me, a mere casual observer picked up on it, imagine the consequences if i had been a VOSA inspector. Surely something as blatantly obvious as this should have been picked up by a driver if he did his/her pre-start checks properley, not to mention the fitters based at this depot. Some may think im over-reacting or posting about nothing, but if something obvious like a numberplate can be overlooked, then what about wheelnuts or tyre tread/condition etc. As far as im concerned YT need a kick up the jacksy over this.
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