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Post by sconehead85 on Jun 5, 2013 0:47:52 GMT 1
If Transdev only intends to LEASE new buses for seven years then they need to lease 14% of the fleet every year, or roughly 87 vehicles per year. Then they would eventually have nothing older than seven years of age in the fleet. Leasing only part of the fleet means they will have a fleet polarised between brand new and very old vehicles. Not only have they the 60 step entry vehicles to replace but there is a vast fleet of Volvo B10BLEs which will need to be replaced in a year or threes time.
So Transdev needs to increase the lease - to 87 buses per year.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 5, 2013 10:26:11 GMT 1
If Transdev only intends to LEASE new buses for seven years then they need to lease 14% of the fleet every year, or roughly 87 vehicles per year. Then they would eventually have nothing older than seven years of age in the fleet. Leasing only part of the fleet means they will have a fleet polarised between brand new and very old vehicles. Not only have they the 60 step entry vehicles to replace but there is a vast fleet of Volvo B10BLEs which will need to be replaced in a year or threes time. So Transdev needs to increase the lease - to 87 buses per year. sconehead85 why do Volvo B10BLES need to replaced within a year? - some have been refurbished less than 3 year ago,give rest a referb & they`ll be able to get another 5-7 year out of them
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Post by sconehead85 on Jun 5, 2013 11:18:58 GMT 1
If Transdev only renews through leasing only a small PART of its fleet then the Volvo B10BLEs will HAVE to last twenty plus years. These however are low-floor, but even low floor vehicles are getting old.. It would be more sensible for Transdev to lease 1/7th of its fleet per year, (87 vehicles) to prevent polarisation. Replacing only mid life vehicles and letting the rest just get older and older without any prospect of replacement is bizarre to say the least and I don't know any other operator that does it. I I sincerely hope any attempt by Transdev to use the above mentioned Section 4.1 (f) is STAMPED ON HARD.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 6, 2013 11:02:28 GMT 1
If Transdev only renews through leasing only a small PART of its fleet then the Volvo B10BLEs will HAVE to last twenty plus years. These however are low-floor, but even low floor vehicles are getting old.. It would be more sensible for Transdev to lease 1/7th of its fleet per year, (87 vehicles) to prevent polarisation. Replacing only mid life vehicles and letting the rest just get older and older without any prospect of replacement is bizarre to say the least and I don't know any other operator that does it. I I sincerely hope any attempt by Transdev to use the above mentioned Section 4.1 (f) is STAMPED ON HARD. sconehead85 Actully if they fitted wheelchair lifts to Olympians - wouldnt this make it so they be able to use them past 2016? - if so it might be cheaper than buying low floor buses just for schools (or they could as previously mentioned - no go for alot of school contracts upon renewel).i dont think its been said for defo weather or not the new B9TLs are leased or not.the single deck fleet seem to be ok for the next 5-10years & so does mini/midi bus fleets
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Post by sconehead85 on Jun 9, 2013 2:15:35 GMT 1
I don't think it would be economical to carry out the surgery necessary on Olympians as they are time expired already, and there should be enough ready-for-purpose ex London double decks. As for single decks the Dennis Javelins and a couple of N-reg Volvo B10Bs, which have 19 months left.
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Post by MetrolineGA1511 on Jun 9, 2013 19:19:11 GMT 1
I don't think it would be economical to carry out the surgery necessary on Olympians as they are time expired already, and there should be enough ready-for-purpose ex London double decks. As for single decks the Dennis Javelins and a couple of N-reg Volvo B10Bs, which have 19 months left. sconehead85 In September Transdev are introducing new Volvo B5LHs on London route 13, with a few Scania OmniDekkas being redeployed onto route 292. This will leave the remaining OmniDekkas and current route 292 Volvo B7TL-Presidents available for alternative use. They could therefore come up here to the Pennines! Any idea where the 15 new Volvo B9TLs will be used, and any resulting cascades if applicable?
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Post by kendall17 on Jun 9, 2013 20:03:48 GMT 1
I don't think it would be economical to carry out the surgery necessary on Olympians as they are time expired already, and there should be enough ready-for-purpose ex London double decks. As for single decks the Dennis Javelins and a couple of N-reg Volvo B10Bs, which have 19 months left. sconehead85 In September Transdev are introducing new Volvo B5LHs on London route 13, with a few Scania OmniDekkas being redeployed onto route 292. This will leave the remaining OmniDekkas and current route 292 Volvo B7TL-Presidents available for alternative use. They could therefore come up here to the Pennines! Any idea where the 15 new Volvo B9TLs will be used, and any resulting cascades if applicable? When was the last time Transdev transferred ex London buses to their other depots?
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Post by Jack on Jun 9, 2013 23:04:49 GMT 1
I don't think it would be economical to carry out the surgery necessary on Olympians as they are time expired already, and there should be enough ready-for-purpose ex London double decks. As for single decks the Dennis Javelins and a couple of N-reg Volvo B10Bs, which have 19 months left. sconehead85 In September Transdev are introducing new Volvo B5LHs on London route 13, with a few Scania OmniDekkas being redeployed onto route 292. This will leave the remaining OmniDekkas and current route 292 Volvo B7TL-Presidents available for alternative use. They could therefore come up here to the Pennines! Any idea where the 15 new Volvo B9TLs will be used, and any resulting cascades if applicable? I think it was already mentioned that they are for the X43.
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Post by westyorkshirebus on Jun 9, 2013 23:32:11 GMT 1
In September Transdev are introducing new Volvo B5LHs on London route 13, with a few Scania OmniDekkas being redeployed onto route 292. This will leave the remaining OmniDekkas and current route 292 Volvo B7TL-Presidents available for alternative use. They could therefore come up here to the Pennines! Any idea where the 15 new Volvo B9TLs will be used, and any resulting cascades if applicable? When was the last time Transdev transferred ex London buses to their other depots? Indeed, never. Every time anything to do with the Transdev fleet gets mentioned, we seem to get bogged down with this obsession about them running step entrance buses on schools and how 'time is fast running out'. The reasons why it isn't a big issue now and how you don't get anything for buying now, have been documented many times.
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Post by B521UWW on Jun 9, 2013 23:40:25 GMT 1
Volvo Olympians from the 292 were transferred to Harrogate about 10 years ago. Also the H-GGS Olympians in Keighley were used on the 114 when new so not an impossible scenario but more than likley will go back to the leasing company and be sold on the open market.
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Post by kendall17 on Jun 9, 2013 23:56:57 GMT 1
When was the last time Transdev transferred ex London buses to their other depots? Indeed, never. Every time anything to do with the Transdev fleet gets mentioned, we seem to get bogged down with this obsession about them running step entrance buses on schools and how 'time is fast running out'. The reasons why it isn't a big issue now and how you don't get anything for buying now, have been documented many times. If Transdev saw it as a major problem, they would have done something about it by now, the same way First & Stagecoach would have. Who cares if they are still running step entries on schools and on frontline service. As long as they are fulfiling their timetable requirements and a bus shows up then fair play to them. The way people go on about them not having 100% low floor already is about as boring as watching golf (imo of course). They will do it when they see fit, as with every other operator.
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Post by MetrolineGA1511 on Jun 22, 2013 5:40:33 GMT 1
Volvo Olympians from the 292 were transferred to Harrogate about 10 years ago. Also the H-GGS Olympians in Keighley were used on the 114 when new so not an impossible scenario but more than likley will go back to the leasing company and be sold on the open market. Indeed, I rode an ex-route 292 Olympian on route 770 in August 2003. I think it was on Monday 11th August, in case anyone is curious as to the 10th anniversary! Mind you, that was technically under Blazefield as an independent group rather than Transdev.
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Post by westyorkshirebus on Jun 22, 2013 8:28:52 GMT 1
Indeed, various single decks had had some of their lives with Sovereign as well, but as you say that was under Blazefield.
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Post by Jack on Jul 11, 2013 15:10:19 GMT 1
Just sighted Versa 263 in York still in full Starship livery on the 27.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 20, 2013 20:23:22 GMT 1
Transdev H&D Optare Solo 1254 was seen today in Harrogate Connect livery but no lettering just yet. It looked good aswell. Sadly, didn't have camera to hand to take a pic. Cheers Andy
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Post by Davidc on Jul 20, 2013 20:56:24 GMT 1
ratty- As for the bus company you refer to, the boss has only himself to blame for purchasing unsuitable vehicles knowing the DDA was looming over the horizon. Its like opening a smoking café at Christmas 2006 knowing a ban was to come in the following July. CBNW could use the section above however for heritage running days in the summer. sconehead85 CBNW (most likely in line with many other small independent operators across the country) buy vehicles that are available to them and which they can afford to buy. DDA is still a number of years off yet which means none DDA compliant vehicles still have plenty of use available yet. Your persistent posting about the topic is beyond a joke. Back on topic. I've heard that the new Gemini's for the X43 will realise the existing ones for use with in other areas of Transdev, most notably Lancashire United.
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Post by sconehead85 on Jul 22, 2013 0:18:43 GMT 1
davidc- Other posters go on about liveries, seats, interiors etc. Its all relevant to bus operation. At least no-one on this site will be in any doubt about the DDA deadlines!
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Post by B521UWW on Jul 24, 2013 20:10:49 GMT 1
Above poster may be pleased to hear 1984 vintage 345 is withdrawn at Keighley with gearbox failure. I also hear a depot rumor this is the year all the A/B reg Olympians are to get withdrawn so sconehead may be able to open the bubbly to celebrate!
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Post by Burnside on Jul 25, 2013 10:28:17 GMT 1
Boooooo!!!!!!!
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Post by westyorkshirebus on Jul 25, 2013 20:27:27 GMT 1
Transdev York have lost all but one of their school services from September
627 - to Arriva Yorkshire 637 - to Arriva Yorkshire 647 - to Arriva Yorkshire F21 - to York Pullman F26 - to York Pullman T13 - to York Pullman 5W - to EYMS 6W - to EYMS 7W - to EYMS 8W - to EYMS 9W - to EYMS 10W - to EYMS
The only school service remaining is the 093S run by a single decker.
This should remove all the Olympians from York and the Urban Cool single deck.
Good job they didn't spend loads of money on low floor buses for these services isn't it?!
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Post by kendall17 on Jul 25, 2013 20:52:16 GMT 1
This should remove all the Olympians from York and the Urban Cool single deck. Good job they didn't spend loads of money on low floor buses for these services isn't it?! Which should displace those 1980s DDs in Harrogate? Disgusting Trasndev having so many step entry vehicles in use with DDA looming. They should be looking to act now with ex London buses. Oh no wait.
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Post by Arriva Wakefield on Jul 25, 2013 21:01:15 GMT 1
This should remove all the Olympians from York and the Urban Cool single deck. Good job they didn't spend loads of money on low floor buses for these services isn't it?! Which should displace those 1980s DDs in Harrogate? Disgusting Trasndev having so many step entry vehicles in use with DDA looming. They should be looking to act now with ex London buses. Oh no wait. Transdev are no doubt well aware of the DDA implementation dates, and no doubt a plan in place. Do you think they will just blunder on without a plan? Do you think that the constant complaining on here will alter anything?
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Post by stevieinselby on Jul 25, 2013 22:12:36 GMT 1
Transdev are no doubt well aware of the DDA implementation dates, and no doubt a plan in place. Do you think they will just blunder on without a plan? Do you think that the constant complaining on here will alter anything? I think kendall17 was being ironic ... it isn't him that keeps banging on incessantly about non-DDA double-deckers ...
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Post by kendall17 on Jul 26, 2013 8:36:33 GMT 1
Which should displace those 1980s DDs in Harrogate? Disgusting Trasndev having so many step entry vehicles in use with DDA looming. They should be looking to act now with ex London buses. Oh no wait. Transdev are no doubt well aware of the DDA implementation dates, and no doubt a plan in place. It appears that way, to some. If you listened to some on here, then yes Yes, I imagine Transdev read these boards daily to see what we think of them.
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Post by sconehead85 on Jul 27, 2013 0:16:06 GMT 1
Hello! Good on ya, kendall17 !
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