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Post by Craig on Jan 20, 2008 20:38:14 GMT 1
The 14 was extended to Bradford I think in the early 90s to replace journeys on the 635-638 services (now Bradford's Orange Line), though the 635/638 still extended to Pudsey evenings and Sundays for a long time after.
Service 71 used to run as now from Primley Park to Leeds and then continued to Bradford (buses used to have 'Primley Park v.Leeds' on the blinds, presumably as many Bradfordians would wonder where on earth the bus was going). The 71 had been a merger of Bradford's 610 route which used to terminate in Farsley, and Leeds division's Farsley to Leeds service which I think went through a few service numbers.
When the Superbus network was created for the then new guided busway, the Leeds to Bradford section of the 71 was cut and replaced by the 15 which as you mention initially still extended to Seacroft (via today's 4 route).
Incidentally, before these extensions the old 14 and 15 routes used to be between Pudsey and Seacroft via Tong Road and Coldcotes Circus - the forerunner of today's ftr 4 service.
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Post by Bradford Traveller on Jan 21, 2008 2:21:58 GMT 1
further to above 759 from Kly ran express between Shiple+5 lane ends. 68\68A BRADFORD Chester st-Eldwick was a joint bct\wyrcc service and the only BCT service at the bus station. Later replaced by a diverted Crossflatts service, but these did not venture on to Dic hudson's.
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Post by riclam on Jan 21, 2008 15:19:18 GMT 1
further to above 759 from Kly ran express between Shiple+5 lane ends. 68\68A BRADFORD Chester st-Eldwick was a joint bct\wyrcc service and the only BCT service at the bus station. Later replaced by a diverted Crossflatts service, but these did not venture on to Dic hudson's. didnt 76 or 78 (cant remember which) Leeds via Pudsey operated by BCT use chester street when wyrc took over ledgard?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 21, 2008 17:07:45 GMT 1
Not sure. Ledgard's service went along Croft St and Vicar Lane (Bradford) ie avoiding the city centre. The 78 (joint BCT/LCT) ran via the city centre and followed a different route out of Bradford along Hall Ings so may have started on Hall Ings.
Following the opening of Interchange it was interworked with 72 which on one occasion lead to difficulty as I intended to catch a 78 bus to Pudsey. One bus set off on the 72 route followed by another on the 72, unfortunately the second really was the 72.
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Post by jimbob90 on Mar 30, 2008 19:31:24 GMT 1
West Riding/Arriva Yorkshire's 484 service which ran from Leeds City Bus Station to Holmfirth, VIA Wakefield. I remember catching it in the summer holidays when I went to Holmfirth for the day. As it was such a long ride I used to always hope for a Volvo B10B Strider, my favourite buses in the fleet.
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Post by Craig on Mar 30, 2008 20:10:05 GMT 1
West Riding/Arriva Yorkshire's 484 service which ran from Leeds City Bus Station to Holmfirth, VIA Wakefield. I remember catching it in the summer holidays when I went to Holmfirth for the day. As it was such a long ride I used to always hope for a Volvo B10B Strider, my favourite buses in the fleet. When this service was split into the 482/484 because of the length of the route, it was initially still one bus which operated both services, interworking at Wakefield. I seem to remember complaints in the paper from elderly people alleging that they now were being kicked off the bus to join the back of the queue to get back on the same bus, though I was never sure if that actually happened or not!
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Post by Burnside on Mar 31, 2008 14:13:39 GMT 1
My favourite was always the 200 Leeds to Morecambe.
Ran Summer weekends only and went down some very narrow lanes between Ingleton and Lancaster.
I also remember the 643/644 which used to terminate at Thackley Mcmillan School and Keighley and District 714 which ran to Thwaites Brow like the 704 but didn't use Cherry Tree Rise and so on. Always fun to see the 704 using a Robin Hood bodied Iveco and the 714 being a Plaxton Paramount bodied Tiger.
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Post by nick on Apr 3, 2008 8:16:07 GMT 1
93/96 is one i will remeber. 93 Used to run the Leeds City Square-Tinshill Silk Mill Drive(Long Way Round) while the 96 would run Leeds Bus Station-Cookridge. They would swap over on the return journeys ie 96 Tinshill-Leeds City Bus Station and 93 Cookridge-Leeds City Square. Also i remeber when they had the X93 which terminated at Horsforth Old Ball.
Metro once made a odd ball desecion and had 93 93A 93B 93C 96 96A 96B 96C all on that route never made sense to me. Once the Overground was introudced every journey to the area was took out of the bus station(thanks to the 75 introduction to tinshill) and they operated a ciruclar pattern like the 93 and 96.
They still havnt changed the X96 going from Infirmary Street(as the moved all ops to Bus Station) which dosnt make sense. Today at peak times i think the 96 could benefit from going Bus Station,Vicar Lane,Train Station,Infirmary Street,Park Row,Albion Street withdrawing the X96!!
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Post by jimbob90 on Apr 3, 2008 18:34:17 GMT 1
First Leeds' old 21,22,23 routes, and I think the 24 as well, before they changed to the 2,3,12,13 etc. the 22B still operates.
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Post by Craig on Apr 3, 2008 18:39:30 GMT 1
Interestingly as far as I know the 22B has lost its Metro funding, and yet First haven't removed the service. Surely it's only a matter of time before it gets replaced with a 13/13A journey, or perhaps they are making a killing on the Manor Farm Estate at 6.30 in the morning.
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Post by nick on Apr 3, 2008 20:35:00 GMT 1
That service does seem the odd ball of all services. Once a day in the morning. What bus is it operated by. One gets the impression a Dart or a Opatre is used
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Post by westyorkshirebus on Apr 3, 2008 21:06:38 GMT 1
The 2B is an odd one as well, and the 14
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Post by jackh on Apr 3, 2008 22:00:20 GMT 1
My favourite was always the 200 Leeds to Morecambe. Ran Summer weekends only and went down some very narrow lanes between Ingleton and Lancaster. I also remember the 643/644 which used to terminate at Thackley Mcmillan School and Keighley and District 714 which ran to Thwaites Brow like the 704 but didn't use Cherry Tree Rise and so on. Always fun to see the 704 using a Robin Hood bodied Iveco and the 714 being a Plaxton Paramount bodied Tiger. Was the 200 service run by Keighley & District by any chance? As I'm sure Morecambe is still on K&D blinds!
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Post by nick on Apr 4, 2008 7:51:49 GMT 1
200 was run by K&D. I think it wen to leeds as the 760 a odd service and returned on the 760 route limted stop as the 200!
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Post by Burnside on Apr 4, 2008 12:30:14 GMT 1
200 was run by K&D. I think it wen to leeds as the 760 a odd service and returned on the 760 route limted stop as the 200! It started at Leeds and ran to Keighley stopping only at Bradford Interchange, Saltaire Roundabout, Bingley Midland Hotel, Keighley Bus station then all stops via Skipton, Ingleton, Lancaster to Morecambe.
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Post by 6u3zr on Apr 4, 2008 20:30:03 GMT 1
Strictly speaking I think that 200 was actually operated by Northern Rose, which was K&D's coaching subsiduary.
I don't remember whether or not Northern Rose ran under a seperate license.
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Post by riclam on Apr 4, 2008 20:42:20 GMT 1
Strictly speaking I think that 200 was actually operated by Northern Rose, which was K&D's coaching subsiduary. I don't remember whether or not Northern Rose ran under a seperate license. lancaster city transport also operated it
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Post by Bradford Traveller on Apr 4, 2008 22:40:59 GMT 1
Interestingly as far as I know the 22B has lost its Metro funding, and yet First haven't removed the service. Surely it's only a matter of time before it gets replaced with a 13/13A journey, or perhaps they are making a killing on the Manor Farm Estate at 6.30 in the morning. THE 22B is cancelled from the next change.
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Post by m60800 on Apr 5, 2008 0:48:03 GMT 1
Strictly speaking I think that 200 was actually operated by Northern Rose, which was K&D's coaching subsiduary. I don't remember whether or not Northern Rose ran under a seperate license. lancaster city transport also operated it Yes, thats right. There was a Lancaster journey at 1710 from Leeds on Tuesdays, I think, and I used to catch this as an alternative to the x6 to Bradford. In the opposite direction, the 841 (Northern Rose) provided some interest on Saturday mornings at 0850 from Bradford to Leeds (en route to Scarboro')
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Post by Bradford Traveller on Apr 5, 2008 10:57:13 GMT 1
Strictly speaking I think that 200 was actually operated by Northern Rose, which was K&D's coaching subsiduary. I don't remember whether or not Northern Rose ran under a seperate license. I SEEM to recall it was a kd route using a northern rose decker .
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Post by Bradford Traveller on Apr 5, 2008 11:06:51 GMT 1
CONT'D to have coach seats on the route. later there was a x98 to ambleside on a sunday but this was a single decker with bus seats.
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Post by nick on Apr 5, 2008 14:10:50 GMT 1
I seem to remebr quite a few otley-leed services. The 33 which operataed on the 966/967 route before continuing onto leeds vicar lane via present route then departing briggate when that used to be open as a major road one way.
732/733/736 which operated Leeds-Otley/Ikley. The 732 and 733 operated via westfiled(present 33 route from Menston Roundabout). The 736 operated the present 33A route!!
Another route which spirngs to mind is the 780 which operated Otley-Pool-Bramhope-Holt Park-Leeds City Bus Station every 30 mins creating a every 15 minute frequnecy from Leeds-Bramhope and reverse. Then in a major change in leeds it was withdrawn for about a year/year and a half before coming back to life in the form of the 85. That though didnt last long as it was withdrawn about a year after it started.85 and 780 operated from stand 20 alongside 28 97 97A so they could layover with each other. This is because a Scania Double Decker was quite common on these routes in 2001/2002/2003/2004.
X85 was a peak service opearting along the X84 route to otley before all stops to the weston estate. This again didnt last long i think down to low passenger ussage on the Otley-Weston part so they replaced it with a Local Service and the X84 got a improved frequency of every 20 minutes with one a hour continuing to Skipton while the other two terminated at Ikley Bus Station!!
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Post by Burnside on Apr 5, 2008 15:14:27 GMT 1
Strictly speaking I think that 200 was actually operated by Northern Rose, which was K&D's coaching subsiduary. I don't remember whether or not Northern Rose ran under a seperate license. It may have used Tigers or ex-Coastliner Olympians in Northern Rose livery, but was definitely operated by KDT. Last time i travelled on it, the vehicle used was an M-reg ex-Caostliner Royale bodield Volvo Olympian in KDT colours.
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Post by Craig on Apr 5, 2008 16:53:33 GMT 1
A few points in reply to nick's post above.
The old 33 service (if memory serves) originally started as Rhodes Coaches' A1 service, along much of the soon to be reinstated 966 route. A few changes have happened over the years, as you say it was the 33 all the way from Leeds to Otley, later there was the W33 then the W6 which became 966.
The 732 and 733 didn't serve Westfield; they operated directly along the A65. However evenings and Sundays the 733 was numbered 734 and this diverted into Westfield (daytimes was served by the 33). Also along with the 736 (as you point out, now today's 33A) was the 735 which crossed the Chevin.
I don't remember the 780 disappearing before the 85 appeared; I think it was just a simple re-numbering of the service (at the same time the 655/755 became the 97). The X85 which went to Weston Estate which you describe was actually numbered X82. While the 780/85 has now gone, there is the 940 in its place. On a related note I think it would be good to extend the two short X84 journeys each hour to Weston Drive and Wharfedale Hospital.
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Post by nick on Apr 5, 2008 17:04:51 GMT 1
The X82 before the changed the 780 to the 85. Then that is when they changed the X82 into the X85. After the 33 came the W33 the 732-736 was still running and that is when the 732 diverted into Westfiled. Also i remember that the 732-736 was often run by MCW Metrobuses if memory serves me correctley!!
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