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Post by Craig on Apr 5, 2008 23:03:49 GMT 1
I apologise, it does indeed appear that (for a short spell) the 732, X85 etc ran as you suggest. I think you are right that the Metrobus was king on those routes for a time, presumably before the H reg Scanias (which are now being scrapped) took over. However I do remember when I was young riding an Atlantean on the 733 all the way from Ilkley to Leeds, but I don't know how frequent AN turns were?
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Post by nick on Apr 6, 2008 11:50:22 GMT 1
I am sure that along with the Atlantean , Leyland Olympian (Roe Bodied) were quite frequent sights on the 732-736 services (alongside the MCW Metro Bus and Scanias Double Decker’s N113/Alexandra RH). The 732-736 often aswell as the common sights had very unusual visitors: myweb.tiscali.co.uk/caroline.mathews/FL5268_18Jan03.jpgmyweb.tiscali.co.uk/caroline.mathews/FL7651_18Jan03.jpgOne seems to remember at the 2003 changes the 97/97A service had a significant change. The 97 and 97A changed to run every hour while there was a new introduction to the route the 97C which went normal route then ring road,spen land,silk mill way silk mill drive then upto horsforth old ball before back onto the normal route to guiseley. This service only lasted a year .
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Post by Burnside on Apr 6, 2008 12:16:47 GMT 1
I remember travelling from Otley to Leeds on the 33 when it was a Quickstep Robin Hood bodied Iveco. Loved the novelty of it as it used approximately zero roads that would provide a reason for a minibus being used, rather than a full size bus!
I can also remember a Roe bodied Atlantean on the X84. That was cool!
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Post by Craig on Apr 6, 2008 12:40:09 GMT 1
I don't think the 97C lasted as long as a year even. When it was the 74/75 running to Tinshill/Ireland Wood, they tried to bring in a change where all the buses would run to Ireland Wood every 15 mins, and instead Silk Mill Way would get the 731 a few times per day (presumably the thinking behind it being that Tinshill already has a frequent service to Leeds). Then they must have had a lot of complaints so they decided to keep the 75 to Tinshill (now the 18 bus) but still kept the diversion of the 731 which by now had been replaced by an hourly service in the form of 97C. I think!
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Post by nick on Apr 6, 2008 17:11:01 GMT 1
I seem to remember that they diverted the 731 off the ring road into the silk mill area from early 2003.Then they saw a market as most people would get on the bus to go to otley so that is when they changed the service to a frequent service to Guiseley (the idea been that you would change onto one of the local buses to otley or the 33A and this went hourly as you say). Then it lasted about a year if not shorter before they withdrew the service after the summer of 2004 and put the 731 back in its place. The 731 lasted about 6 months before returning to the ring road route (old 732 route from Low Lane Rawdon)!!!
After all the service changes and the 731got a decreased the frequency, they still haven’t changed the service number on this route. If we look all the 700 routes from leeds they are now double digit service numbers:
655/755-97(97A and 97C previous. Now runs to guiseley) 780-Changed to 85 before withdrawn 732/733- 33 To Menston (Menston-Ikley Part Withdrawn apart from Sundays/Bank Holidays/Evenings.Now runs to otley thanks to improved X84 and train services) 735/736-33A all the way (735 route was withdrawn all together but replaced with the W33 for about a year and half)
So why hasn’t they bothered to change the service number. 83 or 84 maybe!!!
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Post by Craig on Apr 6, 2008 18:50:56 GMT 1
The 655/755 was renumbered 97 to fit in better with the Headingley group of services.
The 732-736 was renumbered 33 when it was made Overground, and presumably First wanted it to be numbered within the standard numbering series.
So there is no reason for them to renumber the 731 - the few people that use this bus recognise it as the 731, so just keep it that way. Same as with the 781.
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Post by nick on Apr 6, 2008 19:03:40 GMT 1
Did the 55 ever run from Moortown-Cottingley. I certainly remember that before the 51 and 51A were introduced on these routes.
11 and 11A and the 22 are a few more routes i remember. The 11/11A running from St.James Hospital-White Rose(I Think) and the 22 again running from St.James to Middleton/Bell Isle
Anyone remember the 94 which ran from LCBS to Drighlington and then once the 24 was withdrawn ran from Drighlington to Park Estate quite often when it did the LCBS-Drighlington layed over with the 28 and a Scania Decker was a common site on this route!!
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Post by jackh on Apr 6, 2008 19:07:44 GMT 1
The 55 used to run to Woodhouse I believe before the 51 was diverted into Little London and what ever Quickstep route served Woodhouse that week!
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Post by jackh on Apr 6, 2008 19:09:20 GMT 1
The 94 also used to run to Cross Gates where the 68/68A currently go. The 94 was withdrawn when First had taken over the Good Will of Black Prince back in July 2005.
Before the route was extended North wards, it used to have a half hourly frequency and ran into the evenings too if I am correct.
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Post by nick on Apr 6, 2008 19:14:33 GMT 1
It ran eveings although it only ran between leeds and the showcase cinema
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Post by simon on Apr 7, 2008 11:00:31 GMT 1
67 leeds -lotherton hall Suo usually 5146 or 5147 in open top config and halifax- huddersfield x37 operated by ivy coaches with x newport single dec scanias, they went like the clappers!
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Post by angrycommuter on Apr 7, 2008 13:02:23 GMT 1
I caught service 200 (I think!) about 4 or 5 years ago from Leeds to Bridlington. Was a K+D K-reg Leyland bus; one of the ones that went to Tracky I believe. Very comfortable but terrible at travelling up the hills on the road to Brid!
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Post by Burnside on Apr 7, 2008 14:26:48 GMT 1
I caught service 200 (I think!) about 4 or 5 years ago from Leeds to Bridlington. Was a K+D K-reg Leyland bus; one of the ones that went to Tracky I believe. Very comfortable but terrible at travelling up the hills on the road to Brid! That will have been K2-7 YCL, new to Yorkshire Coastliner in 1992. The most comfortable buses i have ever been on. I think the service number was 841.
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Post by jackh on Apr 7, 2008 14:50:22 GMT 1
I suppose that "hill" you are on about is when you reach the Yorkshire Wolds after Stamford Bridge towards Bridlington. I think any large vehicle struggles going up that!
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Post by jackh on Apr 7, 2008 15:02:17 GMT 1
67 leeds -lotherton hall Suo usually 5146 or 5147 in open top config and halifax- huddersfield x37 operated by ivy coaches with x newport single dec scanias, they went like the clappers! In English please!?
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Post by nick on Apr 7, 2008 16:03:46 GMT 1
Jack i think he is trying to see he remembers the 67 which ran from Leeds-Lotherton hall and the X37 which ran on the Halifax-Huddersfield. That is the only English i can get out of that post!!!
Anyone remember what route the 28 took from Adel to Leeds before the withdrawal of the 97 that ran Leeds-Bodington Hall via weetwood lane??
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Post by angrycommuter on Apr 7, 2008 16:25:33 GMT 1
What services used to run up past the universities that were not operated by First/Yorkshire Rider?
I remember:
63B Black Prince every 20 mins Boddington Hall to Leeds City Square. 96C Taylors/K-Line Beeston to Holt Park operated by Leyland Nationals (Arriva operated for a short time after Taylor's taken over) 751 Leeds Suburban/Geldards Clarence Dock to Kirkstall
I seem to remember a 1B or 1C also operating up to Headingley.
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Post by nick on Apr 7, 2008 16:29:37 GMT 1
96C was taken over by Yorkshire rider when it was.That is when the proudced that silly service numbers of 93-93C/96-96C and the X96/X93. They then numbered these routes down to the 96 and 96A doing the old 93/96 Combination. the 96C became the 1 Brown Line as it is today!!!
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Post by jackh on Apr 7, 2008 18:36:05 GMT 1
The 751 was the East End Park Circular-Moortown (Primley Park). I suppose you meant the 752 which had the Leeds Suburban/Leeds City Transport Scanias on!
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Post by Craig on Apr 7, 2008 18:40:30 GMT 1
96C was taken over by Yorkshire rider when it was.That is when the proudced that silly service numbers of 93-93C/96-96C and the X96/X93. They then numbered these routes down to the 96 and 96A doing the old 93/96 Combination. the 96C became the 1 Brown Line as it is today!!! Most of this is completely incorrect. Leeds City Link had the 93/96 which had always existed. Then competition appeared in the form of Bigfoot's (later Taylors) 96A and also the 1G to Holt Park. LCL retaliated with a 1C Leeds to Holt Park, 93C Leeds to Lawnswood, 96C Leeds to Beeston. Then later on, when LCL had dropped the competitive services and things had died down a bit, LCL diverted the 1 to Beeston instead of 93/96, but in order to keep Tinshill and Cookridge at the evening and Sunday service frequencies they were accustomed to, they created the 1C/93C/96C to run eve/Sun only. Then they decided to sod Tinshill/Cookridge and dropped all the 'C' services.
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Post by Craig on Apr 7, 2008 18:45:36 GMT 1
It ran eveings although it only ran between leeds and the showcase cinema This was replaced by Arriva's service 209 which still operates today. However strangely there is one return journey which runs via Showcase Cinema still in existence today on service 63, which runs at virtually the same time as a 209 bus I think.
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Post by Craig on Apr 7, 2008 18:56:08 GMT 1
The 55 used to run to Woodhouse I believe before the 51 was diverted into Little London and what ever Quickstep route served Woodhouse that week! Is there a prize for anyone who can remember every Woodhouse Ridge service? Starting with the CB3/CB5/CB6, then the 58/60, and then the following craziness occurred (perhaps my order is wrong): 46/46A/55 Morley-Woodhouse Ridge later this would be the 55 only, then it was separated into 59 Leeds-Woodhouse Ridge then extended as the 43 Leysholme-Woodhouse Ridge then replaced by the 63C Headingley-Halton Dial later replaced by a diverted 62 service then shortly afterwards the 63C was reinstated, but then 60 Cross Green-Hyde Park-Merrion Centre which was cut to evening/Sunday only and replaced Mon-Sat by the 58 Leeds-St James Hospital which created such a loss for First that they packed it in because they wanted the bus to serve the revamped John Charles Centre (which, incidentally, still appears to carry more drivers than passengers), only for Metro to step in with the 78 Leeds-Colton via Everywhere
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Post by nick on Apr 7, 2008 20:27:13 GMT 1
Yeah i think it is that order but you forgot something. Metro also stood in with wait for it. The 92!!! Yes a headingley corridor service number via Woodhouse.
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Post by riclam on Apr 7, 2008 20:52:19 GMT 1
563 ( i think) Halifax - Denholme - Bingley. One journey only in this direction simply as a way of getting a bus to bingley to operate schools services. I used to find it so funny that all the other schools locally would have Olympians of Yorkshire Rider/ First apart from a couple in Bingley that would get a Halifax Fleetline! that 563 used to run on to beckfoot school as B49 that ran back to denholme for schools then run empty to halifax before beckfoot cancelled the route there borrowed a old broken down leeds alteanean that atlantean was a great bus, remember it wel, if only todays buses were as good! ONly operated school days that route, never got to go on it
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Post by jackh on Apr 7, 2008 20:58:04 GMT 1
Yeah i think it is that order but you forgot something. Metro also stood in with wait for it. The 92!!! Yes a headingley corridor service number via Woodhouse. Hmmm, don't what your trying to say there (again). I don't think Metro had anything to do with the re routing of the 92, it was Firsts decision due to more student accomodation been constructed down on Meanwood Road and there was no direct link to the Universities. Furthermore the 92 does not serve Woodhouse Ridge where all the bus routes in question did once serve.
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