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Post by Burnside on May 9, 2008 19:34:24 GMT 1
I remember rushing for the 662 in Bradford Interchange a few years ago and it wasn't until we went straight on at the top of Drewton Road that i realised it was the X67!
I needed to be in Saltaire and luckily, the driver let me off at Cottingley Bar so i could catch the 662 the other way.
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Post by m60800 on May 9, 2008 22:36:19 GMT 1
And what you both did was illegal and could have actually got the driver into some very serious legal trouble. (It has been done in the past. A VOSA official watched it happen once approx 5 or 6 years ago and had the driver prosecuted for it. Driver lost both his PCV & car licence and got a very heavy fine for it too.)
Jason JML8371[/quote]
Fair comment. It was a very long time ago and I probably hadn't even heard of VOSA (or their predecessors) then! Drivers must hate driving such routes as they have little control over this happening and stand to lose so much if they are caught. Wonder what the drivers guidelines are? (and what the unions have to say about it!)
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Post by Burnside on May 10, 2008 14:26:28 GMT 1
Surprised there hasn't been strikes over it.
Bloody ridiculous!
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Post by pub146g on May 10, 2008 14:39:45 GMT 1
If the driver has actually stopped to allow a passenger to alight at an unauthorised stop then yes of course this is illegal and the driver will deserve any action taken against him/her. But, if somebody choses to alight as the driver is taking fares then there's not a lot he can do to stop them and the 'VOSA' officials etc should put such events down to being a fact of life, it's gonna happen.
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Post by mattyr88 on May 10, 2008 19:35:35 GMT 1
If the driver has actually stopped to allow a passenger to alight at an unauthorised stop then yes of course this is illegal and the driver will deserve any action taken against him/her. But, if somebody choses to alight as the driver is taking fares then there's not a lot he can do to stop them and the 'VOSA' officials etc should put such events down to being a fact of life, it's gonna happen. what if a diasbled or elderly person wanted a alight at an unauthorised stop? and that driver lets them, are you saying that they deserve so loose their licence for making them get off miles from where they need to be? or can physical yget to?
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Post by jackh on May 10, 2008 20:19:44 GMT 1
Well to be honest if the less abled passenger knew that it was a limited stop service they wouldn't bother getting on if a longer walk/wheel home was to be endured.
Furthermore, you can't see them lurking by the door to jump off when they are not supposed to.
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Post by mattyr88 on May 10, 2008 20:35:36 GMT 1
thats true but if they didn't know then they are stuffed, still, it shouldn't be illegal to let them off at a bus stop that isn't a stop on that route, it isn't illegal to alight people not at a bus stop, at least as far as i know.
it has to be some major glitch in the legal system. i mean it can't be legal to keep a passenger on a bus against their will surely.
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Post by Craig on May 11, 2008 17:05:15 GMT 1
If a service is advertised (and registered with VOSA) as a limited stop service then people should be aware of that and it should be adhered to. Using the X84 example, the destinations do advertise it as 'limited stop' - which I know doesn't fully explain what this means, but if you don't know what it means then ask the driver! Equally if a passenger gets on the X84 in Leeds and asks for Headingley, they should have been turned away in the first place. Also of note is that the X84 uses a lot of unique stops along the A660 in and out of Leeds to avoid confusion with the local routes.
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Post by jml8371 on May 12, 2008 14:04:17 GMT 1
thats true but if they didn't know then they are stuffed, still, it shouldn't be illegal to let them off at a bus stop that isn't a stop on that route, it isn't illegal to alight people not at a bus stop, at least as far as i know. it has to be some major glitch in the legal system. i mean it can't be legal to keep a passenger on a bus against their will surely. The legal position is that it is upto the passenger to ask if the bus stops at the point that they want to get off, it is not upto the driver to ask you(even tho' we can if we deem so) It is actually illegal to stop & let someone off at a stop that the service you are on doesn't use. This is covered in the PSV Act, The Road Traffic Act, The Health & Safety (Public Liability) Act. The only exceptions are that if the driver cannot safely stop at the stop, (Stop blocked by another vehicle etc) or if so instructed to do so by an authorised person. Also this covers the instruction for keeping someone on the bus against there will. (We cannot drop you off at somewhere that we don't stop) Jason JML8371
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Post by jabbott1987 on May 14, 2008 23:51:17 GMT 1
Another I remember from not so long ago is the 361 Balmoral Avenue to Brackenhall terminus, But sadly it was withdrawn due the estate been how it was, in them days.
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Post by Burnside on May 15, 2008 9:53:47 GMT 1
I remember a service in Huddersfield run by TownBus? using Alender bodied Seddon Pennines.
I also remember the X99 which must have started in either Keighley or Bradford and ran to Lightwater Valley.
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Post by nick on May 15, 2008 15:53:25 GMT 1
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Post by revol on May 15, 2008 16:22:23 GMT 1
Think he means Lightwater Valley.
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Post by Burnside on May 15, 2008 17:20:49 GMT 1
I remember a service in Huddersfield run by TownBus? using Alender bodied Seddon Pennines. I also remember the X99 which must have started in either Keighley or Bradford and ran to Lighthingyer Valley. Sorry. I swear i typed Lightwater Valley.
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Post by Burnside on May 15, 2008 17:21:32 GMT 1
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Post by dougie on May 15, 2008 18:03:19 GMT 1
Presumably because of the "T" at the end of "light" and the "WAT" at the beginning of "water". See en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sthingyhorpe_problem for more details (though it may also be filtered)... Yup, as expected it showed "Sthingyhorpe" rather than the town in northern Lincolnshire/ Humberside
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Post by www.buseireann.ie on May 17, 2008 11:23:39 GMT 1
I remember a service in Huddersfield run by TownBus? using Alender bodied Seddon Pennines. I also remember the X99 which must have started in either Keighley or Bradford and ran to Lighthingyer Valley. I think it should read Lightwater Valley, also their was a sister service from Leeds and Harrogate via Ripon to Lightwater numbered X97 and operated by Harrogate and District. It was very popular however daft local traders in Ripon objected to the service, which was partly funded by the theme park, and their reasons for objecting were that it would take trade away from Ripon! Local coulcillors agreed, even though Lightwater isn't very well known for it's shops, and put pressure on the theme park owners to stop the service! The service ended up withdrawn.
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Post by www.buseireann.ie on May 17, 2008 11:27:35 GMT 1
Bloody technology! I too have just discovered this problem! I should have read the last few posts first!
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Post by www.buseireann.ie on May 17, 2008 11:34:09 GMT 1
Before using weetwood lane as a mean of getting from heading/otley road to the ringroad/long causeway the 28 ran up the ring road. My question is what service ran along weetwood lane and where did it start and end??[/quote]
Service 95 did operate along Weetwood Lane for a while in place of the 28, then the 28 returned to it's original route and the 95 ran along Otley Road once again.
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Post by huddsinfo on May 26, 2008 11:28:38 GMT 1
Just remembering some of the old Huddersfield routes I used to catch...I dug out an old timetable for 1988.
180 Holmfirth - Manchester - GM buses (Summer Sunday service)
286 Huddersfield - Upper Denby
313 - 316 Huddersfield - Holmfirth - Meltham - Linthwaite - Milnsbridge - Hudds (viceversa)
365 Huddersfield - Manchester
388/89 Huddersfield - Beaumont Park - Wilberlee
and my favourite Route of all time
484 Holmfirth - Leeds
(I remember on a Bristol VR on the three seat at the front)
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