kendall17
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Post by kendall17 on Oct 16, 2007 18:18:27 GMT 1
8995 WY was on the 12!
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Post by leedstom on Oct 16, 2007 19:13:49 GMT 1
16/10/2007 I also noticed a ftr going northbound on the M1 towards Leeds. Where abouts on the M1? It can't of been inservice, as the closest the M1 gets to Leeds City Centre is the outskirts of Belle Isle, before it heads north east towards Temple Newsam and Garforth before eventually merging with the A1.
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Post by kendall17 on Oct 16, 2007 21:24:43 GMT 1
a new 07 gemini was on the X98
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Post by jackh on Oct 17, 2007 8:58:58 GMT 1
17/10/2007:
FWY 61109 on the 51. I wonder if a few of the "Morley Geminis" have had accidents so therefore are off the road so its inferiors are been used instead.
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Post by Craig on Oct 17, 2007 18:26:03 GMT 1
I've not seen/heard anything about any accidents... but maybe they are finally getting their route branding as keeps getting promised!
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Post by markr on Oct 17, 2007 21:40:44 GMT 1
I remember being at Holt Park one Saturday about five years ago, waiting for an 81 or 82 for Pudsey. I expected one of Bramley depot's Atlanteans, as these were the standard buses for the route. I thought I had witnessed a misallocation or cross-depot hire when a Kirkstall MCW Metrobus turned up. However as I travelled along, I came across a further two of the type on this route, so I wondered what was going on. Still, the following Saturday I was there again, but Bramley's Atlanteans were holding sway. I tried again on a weekday, but the Atlanteans were there as usual. The following Saturday, however, the Metrobus phenomenon repeated itself. It transpired that the Saturday workings had gone to Kirkstall to allow Bramley's buses to work football specials (hence the fortnightly pattern). Not a misallocation after all...
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Post by jackh on Oct 17, 2007 21:41:07 GMT 1
I've not seen/heard anything about any accidents... but maybe they are finally getting their route branding as keeps getting promised! Wouldn't push your luck! But First did say they would make the buses loook recognizable with branding and have coving info pannels in a flyer placed on buses before the Geminis arrived. First also said in "First to Know" that they were going to produce a handy guide for the 51/51A called Bus Quick showing route diagram with public buildings, shops and placed of interest en route. However those leaflets never came into existence!
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Post by Craig on Oct 17, 2007 22:43:53 GMT 1
Yes I too had read all of these wonderful promises, the First to Know pamphlet you mention I think also said the 33/33A would get the same treatment (maybe it will after the upcoming changes).
As the First livery is part-magenta anyway I think it should complement any 51/51A branding well. The only real problem is First Leeds' complete inadequacy to keep branded buses on their respective routes, not to mention leaving 'gaps' in it where windows get replaced, ticket prices change etc. Just please don't include those large pictures of people grinning and showing off their tonsils on the side of the bus....
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Post by jackh on Oct 18, 2007 11:35:19 GMT 1
Indeed, the bloke grinning on the 576 branding should of at least have a shave before he had his photo taken to be superimposed on the side of a bus.
Today, also seen 61120 on the 51.
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Post by Davidc on Oct 18, 2007 22:30:03 GMT 1
Hi,
Just to start with, yesterday Northern Counties Paladin bodied Dennis Lance 67039 (K739JAH) made an appearance at Huddersfield bus station while undertaking driver training duties. Never seen this type of bus before.
Right, A number of misallocations from today all seen at Huddersfield bus station.
The Holmfirth Connection group of services were being operated by a high number of single deckers with only a few Royales in use. To keep things short,
Dart 40874 (P824YUM) working the 312 Strider 60792 (L125PWR) working the 310 Strider 60794 (L127PWR) working the 312 Most interesting was Wright Urban bodied Volvo 66766 (YJ05VVH) working the 311 (back display had 341). This bus is branded for the Purple line.
And finally, Verde 60944 (M406VWW) was working the 328.
David.c
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Post by firstbusmaniacrich on Oct 19, 2007 14:05:10 GMT 1
Wright Eclipse Urban 66792 YJ05SOJ Was on the 12:10 305 Blackmoorfoot, and Leyland Olympian 30734 H131FLX doing the 12:40 305 Blackmoorfoot all from bus station.
Also A number of lances were on 328 Bradley service usually run by eclipses.
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Post by hfx on Oct 19, 2007 17:54:00 GMT 1
It was daft enough for them to transfer all of the 503 operation to Halifax, which meant the 4 geminis 32509/10/35/36 all went. Now had it been the way it was, it would have been better in that Huddersfield would always (at least) leave 32535/32536 and then even one other of 32509/10 spare for 503. And then add the 4 gems from halifax, that takes it to 6 or 7 in total. Now to fill up the gap Huddersfield would then use their Volvo B7RLEs. Now if you compare 503 to 363, the 363 runs every 20 minutes and if single turns up things could go worse. If a 503 was opearted like this 6/7 buses being doubles at every 10 minutes and included one single B7RLE, I'm sure it wouldn't build up extra ppl. A double would be likely turn up after 20 minutes, if not the 10. About investment, Halifax and Huddersfield should have waited rather longer and should have made a slightly bigger investment to include a couple of more gemini's. Their only problem is that they have just enough buses for each route, but NO spares. The Green line should have been converted in part using Volvo B7RLEs for some services and Volvo Olympians for others. Getting 6 geminis and then filling up the rest with Singles is certainly not a good idea. Why not just draft in some second hand ALX400s and let the gems act as spares for other routes. Or why not swap over B7RLE's for Geminis with say First Leeds or something.... They only get what FirstGroup let them have, wanting new buses to act as spares is not a good enough business case for central management. Also modern double deckers can't fit in Todmorden depot so they either have to use single decks or build a new depot in Todmorden. All the routes 590-4 interwork so they can't allocate double decks to specific routes Well in that case (in regards to the Todmorden depot) First Should sort out the height of vehicles that can enter it in the first place. Also buying buses to act as spares, step up the standards a particular service could offer. Take the 6 New Enviro's (on order) for Stagecoach in Huddersfield. The PVR is 5 and 1 is spare. So does that mean Stagecoach in Huddersfield are out of order (or not to the 'central management') for buying an extra new bus? This bus can also be used on other stagecoach routes, thereby letting communities not served by the enviro's to benefit from a new bus, on an occasional basis. For the vehicle maintainance and the example above, it wouldn't be a bad Idea if First Calderdale and Huddersfield brought in some Casade Double deckers (or new ones even), to improve services 590-594 and 363.
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kendall17
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Post by kendall17 on Oct 19, 2007 18:43:06 GMT 1
8995 WY on the 37 along with a new eclipse! an 04 plate gem was on the 91
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Post by Davidc on Oct 19, 2007 22:12:02 GMT 1
Noted today in Huddersfield.
First Huddersfield Alexander Royale 30823 (R643HYG) was working the 328. This is the Lime Line and is normaly operated by Wright bodied Volvos.
David.c
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Post by Davidc on Oct 20, 2007 18:25:21 GMT 1
A few more misallocations from today in Huddersfield.
Strider 60770 (K103HUM) working the 313, Dart 40876 (P706HPU) working the 311, Verde 60957 (M419VWW) working the 314.
One other thing from today was 40879 (P703HPU) which had broken down at the bus station and was towed away to the depot.
David.c
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Post by jackh on Oct 21, 2007 12:34:14 GMT 1
21/10/2007:
First 32461 on the 38 usually manned by Alexander Dash/Strider.
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Post by Davidc on Oct 21, 2007 14:17:40 GMT 1
Just been on a misallocation in the form of First Huddersfield Dart 40963 (N213WRD) working the 399 to Storthes Hall Student Village. I know there had just been a swap of driver and bus before the journey I was on and it was running 5 mins late so there must have been a problem with the double decker that was ment to take over resulting in the Dart.
David.c
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Post by Burnside on Oct 21, 2007 14:47:09 GMT 1
First Bradford Wright bodied B10BLE 60814 (S665RNA) branded for service 620 Yellow Line, was operating route 15 towards Leeds, past kirkstall Morrisons at about 12:40.
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Post by T101VWU on Oct 21, 2007 19:18:54 GMT 1
ive had one of the new wright gemini 370** on number 1 today & also 66707 on 96 both from holt park asda. number 1 usually Wright Fusion artic & 96 ex london dual door volvo olympians.
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Post by westyorkshirebus on Oct 21, 2007 21:52:56 GMT 1
First Bradford Wright bodied B10BLE 60814 (S665RNA) branded for service 620 Yellow Line, was operating route 15 towards Leeds, past kirkstall Morrisons at about 12:40. The 607 & 620 should all have been removed by now, I hope this isn't a sign of standards slipping at First Bradford, they used to be the only part of First WY were you would never see branded buses on the wrong routes
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Post by jackh on Oct 22, 2007 15:52:44 GMT 1
22/10/2007. Quite a few misallocated buses out and about in Leeds today: 66996 on the 12. Normally manned by B7TL/B9TL 66705 on the X84. Normally manned by Striders/Olympians 61082 on the 74. Normally manned by B7RLEs 30914 on the X6. Normally manned by Geminis 61039 on the 37. Normally manned by Darts 66709 on the 51. Normally manned by 06 B7TLs 30245 on the 51A. Normally manned by 06 B7TLs 53103 on the 46. Normally manned by Darts.
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Post by kendall17 on Oct 22, 2007 18:47:12 GMT 1
31806 on the 42
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Post by Craig on Oct 22, 2007 18:55:22 GMT 1
The ex-London Solos are fairly common at the moment on the 46 and 55. I don't know if this is just temporary, certainly after the Menston roadworks finish another Solo will be required up on the Wharfe Valley services.
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Post by jackh on Oct 22, 2007 19:01:35 GMT 1
Well they have nine Solos for Wharfedale Work. I know they are used also on the 66/67 and the Horsforth locals 31 and 32.
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Post by Craig on Oct 22, 2007 19:12:14 GMT 1
The Wharfedale services currently only need 4 buses, plus there are 2 buses for the 67 and 1 for the 31/32. So at the moment there 2 Solos spare each day.
However the forthcoming changes will require the extra 2 in Wharfedale (or maybe just an extra 1 depending how tight the timetable is!)
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