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Post by twy7 on Jun 7, 2023 22:47:17 GMT 1
This was put on twitter today 🚌 Bus Update 🚌 Had a really positive meeting today with a bus company about a potential new route that will connect East Ardsley, Thorpe, Lofthouse, Robin Hood, Rothwell and Leeds. Keep an eye out for more updates soon! twitter.com/cllrshc/Does any one know any thing else about this? |
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Post by kendall17 on Jun 7, 2023 22:57:35 GMT 1
A little extension to Outwood would be welcomed.
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Post by joseph on Jun 8, 2023 5:44:47 GMT 1
This was put on twitter today 🚌 Bus Update 🚌 Had a really positive meeting today with a bus company about a potential new route that will connect East Ardsley, Thorpe, Lofthouse, Robin Hood, Rothwell and Leeds. Keep an eye out for more updates soon! twitter.com/cllrshc/Does any one know any thing else about this? Well isn't that just simply going to make the 118 even more unviable? These residents in back water villages don't half make some seriously unreasonable demands, I bet they'll be the first to moan when Arriva axe the 118 even though it was their doing. |
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Post by peteleeds on Jun 8, 2023 7:40:49 GMT 1
Sounds very much like the old 130 bus from when i was a child. That ran leeds- rothwell- carlton- lofthouse- thorpe- east ardsley- wrenthorpe- Wakefield if i remember right
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Post by kendall17 on Jun 8, 2023 12:20:59 GMT 1
This was put on twitter today 🚌 Bus Update 🚌 Had a really positive meeting today with a bus company about a potential new route that will connect East Ardsley, Thorpe, Lofthouse, Robin Hood, Rothwell and Leeds. Keep an eye out for more updates soon! twitter.com/cllrshc/Does any one know any thing else about this? Well isn't that just simply going to make the 118 even more unviable? These residents in back water villages don't half make some seriously unreasonable demands, I bet they'll be the first to moan when Arriva axe the 118 even though it was their doing. Backwater villages 😂. 118 doesn't go to half of those conurbations, or connect to Leeds. |
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Post by joseph on Jun 8, 2023 18:14:11 GMT 1
Well isn't that just simply going to make the 118 even more unviable? These residents in back water villages don't half make some seriously unreasonable demands, I bet they'll be the first to moan when Arriva axe the 118 even though it was their doing. Backwater villages 😂. 118 doesn't go to half of those conurbations, or connect to Leeds. It goes through 2 of them, East Ardsley and Thorpe. Those 2 places take up quite a bit of custom heading to White Rose and I doubt all are just going to visit there, many will change to head to Leeds. The 47 took custom off the 118 making the 118 less viable, this new service will take even more off, hence why Tronics are nearly always used. Why do these places need a direct link to Leeds via Rothwell anyway? What's in Rothwell, nothing! Worse than frigging Morley! |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 8, 2023 19:00:23 GMT 1
Backwater villages 😂. 118 doesn't go to half of those conurbations, or connect to Leeds. It goes through 2 of them, East Ardsley and Thorpe. Those 2 places take up quite a bit of custom heading to White Rose and I doubt all are just going to visit there, many will change to head to Leeds. The 47 took custom off the 118 making the 118 less viable, this new service will take even more off, hence why Tronics are nearly always used. Why do these places need a direct link to Leeds via Rothwell anyway? What's in Rothwell, nothing! Worse than frigging Morley! So if many if not most who use the 118 continue onto Leeds doesn't it make sense to introduce a new service to Leeds rather than to the White Rose as it's convenient for Arriva? If 118 does become unviable at least the majority are left with a bus to where they actually want to go. |
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Post by dlspotter on Jun 9, 2023 0:24:23 GMT 1
Backwater villages 😂. 118 doesn't go to half of those conurbations, or connect to Leeds. It goes through 2 of them, East Ardsley and Thorpe. Those 2 places take up quite a bit of custom heading to White Rose and I doubt all are just going to visit there, many will change to head to Leeds. The 47 took custom off the 118 making the 118 less viable, this new service will take even more off, hence why Tronics are nearly always used. Why do these places need a direct link to Leeds via Rothwell anyway? What's in Rothwell, nothing! Worse than frigging Morley! Very snobby attitude that, pretty much 'don't start bus routes to places I don't want to go to'... It's got over 20,000 people, and people alone are what make bus routes work Also got a large Morrisons that will be the main local supermarket for many people in the surrounding towns and villages None of these places have a train station (except Leeds of course), meaning an extra bus for people So many people in East Ardsley complained at Arriva for curtailing the 118 to White Rose. 118 also had an evening service which when I used it was well used. 118 when it previously ran as 481 didn't even serve White Rose, and was still a decently popular bus. |
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Post by joseph on Jun 9, 2023 5:56:22 GMT 1
So when the 118 gets withdrawn, what happens to the quite well used (but not profitable) link between Beeston/Middleton/Whinthorpe and Wakefield? I doubt WYCA will fund this section unless they use the funds from the Sunday journeys for a very limited service. People from Upper Beeston have the 116, but that's limited itself and takes even longer than the convoluted 118, Middleton has nothing unless you change buses in Hunslet or walk a good couple of miles to the nearest alternative over in Lofthouse/Robin Hood. The initial link between Thorpe/East Ardsley and Rothwell was discontinued for one big reason, nobody used it so WYCA axed it! If people in back water land are so in need of a Morrisons, Morley has one with a bus link to it, and it's closer! They should count themselves lucky they have a bus, never mind links to Leeds, Wakefield and White Rose, they're going to cause more trouble for others living elsewhere on the route just for a pointless additional bus to Leeds!
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Post by westriding on Jun 9, 2023 8:07:30 GMT 1
So when the 118 gets withdrawn, what happens to the quite well used (but not profitable) link between Beeston/Middleton/Whinthorpe and Wakefield? I doubt WYCA will fund this section unless they use the funds from the Sunday journeys for a very limited service. People from Upper Beeston have the 116, but that's limited itself and takes even longer than the convoluted 118, Middleton has nothing unless you change buses in Hunslet or walk a good couple of miles to the nearest alternative over in Lofthouse/Robin Hood. The initial link between Thorpe/East Ardsley and Rothwell was discontinued for one big reason, nobody used it so WYCA axed it! If people in back water land are so in need of a Morrisons, Morley has one with a bus link to it, and it's closer! They should count themselves lucky they have a bus, never mind links to Leeds, Wakefield and White Rose, they're going to cause more trouble for others living elsewhere on the route just for a pointless additional bus to Leeds! A prime example of a local politician interfering in the running of a business rather than fixing potholes, sweeping streets and providing adequate policing. |
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Post by kendall17 on Jun 9, 2023 8:13:10 GMT 1
Good lord you lot are negative.
Surely a new route, serving different areas should be championed, especially as major operators are wielding the axe on anything and everything.
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Post by twy7 on Jun 9, 2023 8:34:11 GMT 1
It goes through 2 of them, East Ardsley and Thorpe. Those 2 places take up quite a bit of custom heading to White Rose and I doubt all are just going to visit there, many will change to head to Leeds. The 47 took custom off the 118 making the 118 less viable, this new service will take even more off, hence why Tronics are nearly always used. Why do these places need a direct link to Leeds via Rothwell anyway? What's in Rothwell, nothing! Worse than frigging Morley! So if many if not most who use the 118 continue onto Leeds doesn't it make sense to introduce a new service to Leeds rather than to the White Rose as it's convenient for Arriva? If 118 does become unviable at least the majority are left with a bus to where they actually want to go. Dont they have a service to leeds already with the 47 or am I missing some thing here? |
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Post by kommie123 on Jun 9, 2023 8:39:39 GMT 1
This is a huge waste of money.
I would get it if there wasn't already a bus to Leeds but there is!
Why is there such a demand from East Ardsley to Rothwell when there is a bus to the White Rose Centre.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 9, 2023 9:11:51 GMT 1
Good lord you lot are negative. Surely a new route, serving different areas should be championed, especially as major operators are wielding the axe on anything and everything. Bus companies can't win, if they try something new, people moan. If they cut routes, people moan? I see this as a positive, any new route is a positive for me, new links for people, to get out and about. I can't see a negative. |
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Post by gledhill56 on Jun 9, 2023 9:48:16 GMT 1
This is a huge waste of money. I would get it if there wasn't already a bus to Leeds but there is! Why is there such a demand from East Ardsley to Rothwell when there is a bus to the White Rose Centre. Does the white rose centre have a leisure centre and swimming pool? Or some people might still prefer a town centre as opposed to a shopping centre aimed at younger people. |
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Post by deerfold on Jun 9, 2023 11:27:50 GMT 1
This is a huge waste of money. Is it? How much is it costing? Who's paying? |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 9, 2023 13:44:08 GMT 1
So when the 118 gets withdrawn, what happens to the quite well used (but not profitable) link between Beeston/Middleton/Whinthorpe and Wakefield? I doubt WYCA will fund this section unless they use the funds from the Sunday journeys for a very limited service. People from Upper Beeston have the 116, but that's limited itself and takes even longer than the convoluted 118, Middleton has nothing unless you change buses in Hunslet or walk a good couple of miles to the nearest alternative over in Lofthouse/Robin Hood. The initial link between Thorpe/East Ardsley and Rothwell was discontinued for one big reason, nobody used it so WYCA axed it! If people in back water land are so in need of a Morrisons, Morley has one with a bus link to it, and it's closer! They should count themselves lucky they have a bus, never mind links to Leeds, Wakefield and White Rose, they're going to cause more trouble for others living elsewhere on the route just for a pointless additional bus to Leeds! So basically East Ardsley/Thorpe are in the wrong for asking for a better service to Leeds (I'm sure they'll have tons of sympathy for Middleton being left with it's multiple high frequency services to Leeds)? Middleton is just a suburb of Leeds (& Whinthorpe is a small housing estate on the back of it) so should count themselves lucky that have a direct link to Wakefield. Also how is East Ardsley 'backwater land' when it's getting to the point with house building it's almost a continuous urban sprawl down from Tingley but Whinthorpe isn't when it's a housing estate right at the back of Middleton with 3/4 sides of it surrounded by fields? Or is it just East Ardsleys not officially part of Leeds so not important enough in your eyes? You keep mentioning there's nothing in Rothwell, yet everytime I drive through it during the day the car parks seem fairly busy so there must be things there people are wanting to go to. So when the 118 gets withdrawn, what happens to the quite well used (but not profitable) link between Beeston/Middleton/Whinthorpe and Wakefield? I doubt WYCA will fund this section unless they use the funds from the Sunday journeys for a very limited service. People from Upper Beeston have the 116, but that's limited itself and takes even longer than the convoluted 118, Middleton has nothing unless you change buses in Hunslet or walk a good couple of miles to the nearest alternative over in Lofthouse/Robin Hood. The initial link between Thorpe/East Ardsley and Rothwell was discontinued for one big reason, nobody used it so WYCA axed it! If people in back water land are so in need of a Morrisons, Morley has one with a bus link to it, and it's closer! They should count themselves lucky they have a bus, never mind links to Leeds, Wakefield and White Rose, they're going to cause more trouble for others living elsewhere on the route just for a pointless additional bus to Leeds! A prime example of a local politician interfering in the running of a business rather than fixing potholes, sweeping streets and providing adequate policing. The fact buses are seen as a business rather than a public service is part of the problem. One of the main reasons people use for not using the bus is the fact that 'local orbital' links are not good enough & they don't want to change in Leeds - Here's a route that both improves local links & links to Leeds yet people are still not happy. So if many if not most who use the 118 continue onto Leeds doesn't it make sense to introduce a new service to Leeds rather than to the White Rose as it's convenient for Arriva? If 118 does become unviable at least the majority are left with a bus to where they actually want to go. Dont they have a service to leeds already with the 47 or am I missing some thing here? The last 47 from Leeds on afternoon that serves East Ardsley is 4pm,I'd assume part of the idea behind this new service was to provide later departures from Leeds |
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Post by dlspotter on Jun 9, 2023 16:17:52 GMT 1
I really don't see why people are saying this new service would replace the 118 given that the 118 offers a link to Wakefield which this service does not..
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Post by Deleted on Jun 9, 2023 16:29:38 GMT 1
I think you're all missing the point here The Bus Service Improvement Plan is to improve connectivity and champion new routes like the ones in Halifax and increase frequencies on routes like the 60, why would this all not sit as a positive? The 47 does not cover half of what the councillors are looking at and brings buses back to roads cut off in previous cuts - and that's a bad thing why?
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Post by stephen01 on Jun 9, 2023 16:35:29 GMT 1
I really don't see why people are saying this new service would replace the 47 given that the 47 offers a link to Wakefield which this service does not.. the 47 doesn't serve Wakefield centre though. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 9, 2023 16:39:04 GMT 1
I really don't see why people are saying this new service would replace the 47 given that the 47 offers a link to Wakefield which this service does not.. Think your meaning 118,Route 47 goes to Morley rather than Wakefield |
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Post by tinrocket on Jun 9, 2023 17:18:31 GMT 1
To add to some of the comments above, I think only time will tell. If the people calling for the new service proceed to use it, then good luck to them. A positive development in an area which has seen a lot of cuts over the years - 130 (as mentioned above), 131, 132, 187, 231 and Morley town buses off the top of my head!
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Post by stephen01 on Jun 9, 2023 17:26:39 GMT 1
I really don't see why people are saying this new service would replace the 47 given that the 47 offers a link to Wakefield which this service does not.. Think your meaning 116,Route 47 goes to Morley rather than Wakefield the 116 does serve Wakefield but none of the areas listed |
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Post by dlspotter on Jun 9, 2023 17:31:41 GMT 1
I really don't see why people are saying this new service would replace the 47 given that the 47 offers a link to Wakefield which this service does not.. Think your meaning 116,Route 47 goes to Morley rather than Wakefield Sorry, amended |
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Post by peteleeds on Jun 9, 2023 18:12:38 GMT 1
Maybe they need to consider bringing back some old routes like the 428/9 which ran oulton- rothwell- lofthouse- (occasionally journeys served thorpe lane terminus) - east ardsley and onto morley. I'd imagine this could be easily run with say 2 midi- buses on an hourly frequency.
This provided links with rothwell to the sports centre. Served rodillian school. Provided local link from east ardsley to morley.
Part of this old route was replaced in segments now run as the 47 and 22 i think
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