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Post by SCH117X on Nov 27, 2022 22:33:58 GMT 1
What's express about the X6? Turns out from tomrorrow it is all stops; there is house building going on to the west of Harrogate so a complete recast of the 6/X6 is probable along with a renumbering (6A 6B etc)
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Post by SCH117X on Nov 27, 2022 22:52:02 GMT 1
Only one 36 left Leeds between 1610 and 1710 yesterday, and even then the driver refused to allow any more passengers to board despite no one standing. The queue of people left behind was stretching down the entrance doors at the Dyer Street entrance and the electronic boards were showing the 1730 as cancelled. As Lucy mentions, the withdrawal of City Zap hasn't led to a reduction in cancellations and with Harrogate benefitting from drivers loaned from other depots it really does make you wonder why Harrogate are having an issue with recruitment/retention. Traffic was manic yesterday due to the rail strike with knock on effects of very late running 36s (amongst other services) with at least one working reported to be nearly an hour late (with consequential impacts on driver avaiability) and a bus that had correctly gone to the Starbeck depot had to brought back into use to form a Ripon working from Harrogate.
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Post by joseph on Nov 28, 2022 7:06:20 GMT 1
Only one 36 left Leeds between 1610 and 1710 yesterday, and even then the driver refused to allow any more passengers to board despite no one standing. The queue of people left behind was stretching down the entrance doors at the Dyer Street entrance and the electronic boards were showing the 1730 as cancelled. As Lucy mentions, the withdrawal of City Zap hasn't led to a reduction in cancellations and with Harrogate benefitting from drivers loaned from other depots it really does make you wonder why Harrogate are having an issue with recruitment/retention. I bet many of those waiting had alternatives such as one of the many buses up to Moortown, going off topic but some people really are insistent on catching this service in the Leeds area heading to/from Leeds despite more frequent alternatives lol.
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Post by northerner on Nov 28, 2022 23:10:33 GMT 1
I bet many of those waiting had alternatives such as one of the many buses up to Moortown, going off topic but some people really are insistent on catching this service in the Leeds area heading to/from Leeds despite more frequent alternatives lol. True! Although the rail strike would have no doubt added passengers travelling to/from Harrogate. Given that at least 2 weeks notice has to be given once a strike is called it doesn't seem unreasonable to expect operators to focus their resources on routes which are likely to receive a large increase in passenger numbers.
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Post by deerfold on Nov 28, 2022 23:45:13 GMT 1
I bet many of those waiting had alternatives such as one of the many buses up to Moortown, going off topic but some people really are insistent on catching this service in the Leeds area heading to/from Leeds despite more frequent alternatives lol. True! Although the rail strike would have no doubt added passengers travelling to/from Harrogate. Given that at least 2 weeks notice has to be given once a strike is called it doesn't seem unreasonable to expect operators to focus their resources on routes which are likely to receive a large increase in passenger numbers. If they didn't already have a shortage of drivers they might, but it's not often financially viable to massively increase capacity for just one or two days, They're already using double deckers so they'd need more vehicles and drivers.
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Post by SCH117X on Nov 28, 2022 23:52:21 GMT 1
seriously though, have you asked Alex to withdraw minor routes like the 24, which has struggled for a while There are stories doing the rounds hyped by a local councillor that Pateley Bridge is going to be served by just two buses a day.
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Post by northerner on Nov 29, 2022 22:09:01 GMT 1
True! Although the rail strike would have no doubt added passengers travelling to/from Harrogate. Given that at least 2 weeks notice has to be given once a strike is called it doesn't seem unreasonable to expect operators to focus their resources on routes which are likely to receive a large increase in passenger numbers. If they didn't already have a shortage of drivers they might, but it's not often financially viable to massively increase capacity for just one or two days, They're already using double deckers so they'd need more vehicles and drivers. Not necessarily, I meant to focus the available resources to the routes which are likely to be very busy. It wouldn't require any additional buses or drivers, I just find it odd that Keighley would rather run every journey on the K9 which rarely seems to have more than a dozen onboard whilst 662s are driving past people due to a combination of cancellations and additional passengers due to the strikes. Likewise with Harrogate only running one 36 in an hour out of Leeds on Saturday afternoon, the controller must have realised the available capacity was inadequate but still chose to cancel 3 journeys (and not provide notification of these.)
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Post by SCH117X on Nov 30, 2022 22:53:53 GMT 1
Bustimes tracking for Saturday shows that of 3616-3628/3639-3641 four were not in use and another was tracking on the 7 (?). Of those tracking on the 36 at 1610 five were northbound (four running late by 17[at Ripley], 40 [at Aldwoodly Gates], 47 [at Ripley] and 67 [at Chapeltown] mins), two were at Leeds Bus Station (leaving at 1612 and 1614) and only two were southbound, one 18 late at Moortown (which formed the 37 min late 1640 to Ripon) and the other 16 late in north Harrogate. A further two were parked up having worked earlier in the day and one was used to form a 1640 from Harrogate to Leeds in leiu of a working from Ripon
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