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Post by mutty on Mar 30, 2020 13:21:51 GMT 1
Arriva changes from Monday 30 March www.arrivabus.co.uk/coronavirus-ykAccording to my Arriva mates, Dewsbury staff will move to Heckmondwike and use their vehicles for the foreseeable future Dewsbury vehicles are operating Dewsbury routes today - strangely though, there is no live tracking on any Dewsbury or Heckmondwike vehicles - Kirklees looks empty on the Arriva app.
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Post by dennisthemenace504 on Mar 30, 2020 13:50:56 GMT 1
Arriva changes from Monday 30 March www.arrivabus.co.uk/coronavirus-ykAccording to my Arriva mates, Dewsbury staff will move to Heckmondwike and use their vehicles for the foreseeable future Dewsbury vehicles are operating Dewsbury routes today - strangely though, there is no live tracking on any Dewsbury or Heckmondwike vehicles - Kirklees looks empty on the Arriva app. Found out half hour ago, that it's not happening
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Post by mcbus123 on Mar 30, 2020 15:03:57 GMT 1
the yorkshire tiger Timetable for keyworkers is miserably inadequate on some journeys are operating are every 2 Hours from about 10am till 4pm
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Post by moorside on Mar 30, 2020 15:15:25 GMT 1
the yorkshire tiger Timetable for keyworkers is miserably inadequate on some journeys are operating are every 2 Hours from about 10am till 4pm My thoughts were that it might be adequate for people shopping for essential goods (provided they're not out in the wilds, as I mentioned), but not really much good for the "keyworkers" for whom it is named. I see that First have a note on their website that if there are keyworkers who cannot get to work on their routes, they are asking them to contact them and they'll see what they can do. I thought that was very good of them: as has already been said, a lot of operators must be losing money hand over fist at present, and it's not surprising some of the smaller ones have given up.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 30, 2020 15:32:03 GMT 1
Operators must be losing money heavily, I've seen 5 buses over the last few days when out for shopping/exercise with a total of 1 passenger. Noticed the Commander on the 109 this afternoon has the seats behind the cab taped off.
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Post by mcbus123 on Mar 30, 2020 16:04:57 GMT 1
i used the 576 from queensbury to Halifax on saturday Afternoon completely empty and pick nobody up
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Post by rhythmb on Mar 30, 2020 16:54:52 GMT 1
I've been catching the 196 for the last few days to get into and leave work and they've used the same bus for all the journeys I've been on. I guess it makes sense to keep the same bus on the same routes now.
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Post by jdodger08 on Mar 31, 2020 12:30:28 GMT 1
Don't attack me for this post, just thought I'd share some information on how bus operations are effected elsewhere.
I live in Tenerife (but still obsessed by West Yorkshire buseses) but here the bus operator TITSA (government owned) has made all journeys free, about a week ago now. I barely ever see anyone using the bus. The seats around the driver are all cordoned off so you cannot get within 2 meters of the driver and passengers can only enter the bus from the rear doors.
Cash payments were stopped 2 days into lockdown - which was alright because the "MCard" equivalent here is actually miles better.
For the first week of lockdown all services ran to a Saturday time table and then TITSA began reducing services across the board - my local service finished at 01:25am now it's about 19:30!
It's interesting to compare how different operators are tackling the situation and it makes me wonder if in West Yorkshire journeys will eventually become free. Or how they will handle driver/passenger interactions to prevent the virus spreading.
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Post by westyorkshirebus on Mar 31, 2020 14:58:57 GMT 1
Some bus companies like Transdev have taped off the front seats, others like First have buses with security screens so the drivers are already protected to some degree
The bus companies will need some sort of bail out already without fares being made free.
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Post by mutty on Mar 31, 2020 15:31:58 GMT 1
Don't attack me for this post, just thought I'd share some information on how bus operations are effected elsewhere. I live in Tenerife (but still obsessed by West Yorkshire buseses) but here the bus operator TITSA (government owned) has made all journeys free, about a week ago now. I barely ever see anyone using the bus. The seats around the driver are all cordoned off so you cannot get within 2 meters of the driver and passengers can only enter the bus from the rear doors. Cash payments were stopped 2 days into lockdown - which was alright because the "MCard" equivalent here is actually miles better. For the first week of lockdown all services ran to a Saturday time table and then TITSA began reducing services across the board - my local service finished at 01:25am now it's about 19:30! It's interesting to compare how different operators are tackling the situation and it makes me wonder if in West Yorkshire journeys will eventually become free. Or how they will handle driver/passenger interactions to prevent the virus spreading. Buses here are virtually running about empty, so I would think at some point the government has to step in to fund it! On a different note , route 110 from Los Cristianos to Santa Cruz is a nice run along the south side of the coast.
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Post by mutty on Mar 31, 2020 20:59:51 GMT 1
Leeds Bradford Airport is now fully closed until further notice - presume that means the 757 is now no longer operating too
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Post by rossbailey on Mar 31, 2020 22:25:10 GMT 1
Leeds Bradford Airport is now fully closed until further notice - presume that means the 757 is now no longer operating too Yes the Terminal Building is closed as the are no longer any scheduled flights operating, But the airfield is still operational between 08:00 at 16:00hrs daily with prior permission required. I did see the following tweet earlier today stating all Flying Tiger services 737/747/757 are unable to serve the airport until further notice. twitter.com/i/web/status/1244874447284305925
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Post by Bradford Traveller on Apr 2, 2020 15:22:04 GMT 1
From 24 March National Express will have new, temporary timetables with a very limited service. In addition, all local journeys will be banned (e. g. Leeds to Bradford) 801 Bradford -> London via Sheffield, Derby, Heathrow 811 Liverpool -> Leeds via Manchester Airport approx every 90 mins. (alternate trips via Bradford, 3-hourly) They're pretty much running the Christmas Day timetable. NATIONAL Express will fully suspend its national network of scheduled coach services with effect from midnight on Sunday. Megabus will suspend all journeys in England and Wales by the end of the weekend.
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Post by sharksmith on Apr 2, 2020 17:52:22 GMT 1
With so many routes operating hourly frequencies and having quite a lot of slack due to minimal traffic I'm quite surprised a company or two haven't tried to be a little creative with their routes.
For instance First Bradford have lots of routes which terminate in the city, not much use at the moment with shops and lots of offices closed. How about extending each 72, X6, 612 & 626 up to BRI on a couple of different roads giving a 10 minute frequency, with the 617/18 included, from Bradford to BRI and twenty minute frequency up each of the two individual routes.
Hospital workers therefore have more through routes from Thornbury, Shipley, Baildon and all points in between. Even for those not on these routes it's a much better frequency once they get into Bradford.
Other routes like the 607, 608, 622, 576 could be rerouted to do a pass by St Luke's enroute to or on arrival in Bradford again giving a high frequency service to the hospitals.
Transdev in Keighley could do the same, extend the 60 and the 662 along to Airedale Hospital to give a bus at least every twenty minutes with the 66, add a few more routes and you could get a 10 minute frequency plus better area coverage.
I'm not suggesting that this frequency is necessary but if our NHS staff are able to set off to work a little later or get home a bit earlier then I'm sure this would be appreciated. Social distancing would also be much easier on these more frequent services.
I know route/timetable changes usually have to have plenty of notice before they happen but this has clearly been relaxed in these strange times so why not give it a try. It might need a bus or three extra but surely would be worth it, especially as the government is finally indicating that financial help will be available to the bus industry.
I'm still seeing lots of comments online from passengers struggling to get to work at hospitals on time so maybe someone needs to think outside the box/network.
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Post by deerfold on Apr 2, 2020 18:32:58 GMT 1
I live on the route to Airedale hospital. That's rarely more than a couple of people on the 66. If might make more sense to make the majority of the 903s more than 10 minutes later.
The M4 rarely has anyone on it coming out of Keighley.
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Post by sharksmith on Apr 2, 2020 19:32:42 GMT 1
The point is more if a nurses shift finishes 10 minutes after the 66 leaves for Keighley, they have to wait 50 minutes for the next one and potentially another 30-45 minutes in a no doubt deserted Keighley for their connection home.
With buses sitting around idle and drivers furloughed can't something be done to make these folks lives easier. Surely more worthy to run empty buses to the busy hospital than the abandoned town centre.
It won't work for all locations, for instance Leeds where LGI is in the city centre, even there though why not divert the 19, 49, and 50's via the 5 route so that they pass the doors of LGI meaning those staff who use the bus don't have as far to walk at the start and end of their shift, you would only essentially miss out the stops at the court and town hall, I wouldn't imagine they're doing much business at the moment.
Thinking should be less what can we do within our current network structure, more what can we do which would help.
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Post by westyorkshirebus on Apr 2, 2020 21:11:21 GMT 1
If there was demand to run frequent buses to the hospitals they would do on their existing routes, there obviously isn’t as we can see as nobody is doing it.
Key workers aren’t just hospital staff, and in reality a lot of them probably drive anyway if they work unsociable hours, and they certainly don’t finish shift every 10 minutes.
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Post by BusmanBry on Apr 2, 2020 21:25:52 GMT 1
Hello to all,
I`m really sorry to bother everyone like this but i just wanted to post a question.
CT Plus Wakefield depot run the 113 contract service paid for by the NHS which runs between Pontefract hospital to Dewsbury hospital via Pinderfields hospital.
I was just wondering if CT plus were planning to run any extra buses on this contract to both utilise the buses they may have that are currently stood idle and also to enable the procedure of the 6ft self distancing rule.
I realise that extra buses does involve extra fuel and extra drivers pay but when you think about it if this is a closed contract between CT Plus and the NHS then surley it would make good sense.
If extra buses were used then the frequency could be for the short term increased and that would most definatley help with the social distance issue.
Best wishes, Bryan.
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Post by sharksmith on Apr 2, 2020 21:59:52 GMT 1
If there was demand to run frequent buses to the hospitals they would do on their existing routes, there obviously isn’t as we can see as nobody is doing it. Key workers aren’t just hospital staff, and in reality a lot of them probably drive anyway if they work unsociable hours, and they certainly don’t finish shift every 10 minutes. But they do, combined First Bradford normally send upwards of 12 buses an hour past BRI on 617,618,620,621,680, this is down to 4. Between Transdev services 66 & M4 Airedale Hospital had 4 buses an hour, down to 1 an hour with occasional M4's every couple of hours or so. It's not about filling buses for profit anymore, it's providing vital links for key staff. What do you say to the nurse who's just missed the 66, because they don't always finish bang on time either. 'Oh it doesn't matter that it takes you two hours to get home instead of 45 minutes. Get some rest and remember to set off to work early for your next shift tomorrow won't you?' I don't really agree with the whole buses are a public service argument for franchising and re-nationalisation but in times like this they should be. Not every hospital worker can afford a car let alone the parking fees they have to pay. What if you car share and your colleague goes off sick? It should be about making life as easy as possible for those who will be caring for your loved ones if they are unfortunate enough to be hospitalized by this dreadful virus. P.S I'm not for one minute having a go at the bus operators here, I just think there could be a little fresh thinking for an awful situation.
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Post by stephen01 on Apr 2, 2020 22:13:50 GMT 1
Hello to all, I`m really sorry to bother everyone like this but i just wanted to post a question. CT Plus Wakefield depot run the 113 contract service paid for by the NHS which runs between Pontefract hospital to Dewsbury hospital via Pinderfields hospital. I was just wondering if CT plus were planning to run any extra buses on this contract to both utilise the buses they may have that are currently stood idle and also to enable the procedure of the 6ft self distancing rule. I realise that extra buses does involve extra fuel and extra drivers pay but when you think about it if this is a closed contract between CT Plus and the NHS then surley it would make good sense. If extra buses were used then the frequency could be for the short term increased and that would most definatley help with the social distance issue. Best wishes, Bryan. I can't see that happening really as all none-essential clinics have been cancelled and visiting has been restricted. If anything Mid Yorkshire Hospitals may approach CT Plus and Metro to see if some extra trips could be added on to cover the Staff shuttle duties that are run by Diamond Coaches still and the trust it self.
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Post by SCH117X on Apr 3, 2020 18:48:55 GMT 1
Transdev are reducing Sunday services further on 2A, 2B, 3, 6, 7, 62, 67, K1, K3,K5, K6, K7, K9, M4, Aireline and Brontebus and completely withdrawing Sunday journeys on the 24.
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Post by SCH117X on Apr 4, 2020 11:56:53 GMT 1
Also Coastliner are not coasting at all on Sundays now with services limited to a 2 hourly Malton-Leeds.
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Post by westyorkshirebus on Apr 4, 2020 17:35:45 GMT 1
An update from Transdev
Over 300 buses have been delicensed and SORNed.
York depot has temporarily closed with York locals being operated out of Malton and the 22 out of Harrogate
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Post by mutty on Apr 7, 2020 17:48:32 GMT 1
From looking at Bustimes.org, it looks like Arriva’s Dewsbury depot is only operating double deckers on all services.
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Post by stephen01 on Apr 7, 2020 18:40:41 GMT 1
From looking at Bustimes.org, it looks like Arriva’s Dewsbury depot is only operating double deckers on all services. They are as i've seen them out. It's better for cleaning down during the day than the pulsars/e200s (excluding the learher seated ones). Hecky are trying to use the leather seated vehicles too.
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