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Post by deerfold on Sept 7, 2020 21:39:16 GMT 1
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Post by Bradford Traveller on Sept 8, 2020 20:15:11 GMT 1
Very odd. RTT has every two hours from Chester with the last train around 16:05
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Post by deerfold on Sept 8, 2020 21:26:12 GMT 1
Very odd. RTT has every two hours from Chester with the last train around 16:05 Definitely odd. RTT is showing last train from Leeds as now but with the one before missing, last from Chester as 4 hours earlier than now.
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Sept 9, 2020 11:21:15 GMT 1
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Post by adam on Sept 9, 2020 11:21:15 GMT 1
The timetable for the Chester to Leeds will be amended to a 2 hourly service in both directions its been noted by northern
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Sept 9, 2020 13:01:21 GMT 1
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Post by deerfold on Sept 9, 2020 13:01:21 GMT 1
The timetable for the Chester to Leeds will be amended to a 2 hourly service in both directions its been noted by northern Have they noted that anywhere useful? Because I still get the same timetable when I look it up on their website. Perhaps they should remove the leaflet or put a comment next to the link?
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Post by adam on Sept 11, 2020 17:54:35 GMT 1
The timetable for the Chester to Leeds will be amended to a 2 hourly service in both directions its been noted by northern Have they noted that anywhere useful? Because I still get the same timetable when I look it up on their website. Perhaps they should remove the leaflet or put a comment next to the link? Probably a post it note that got blown away. The link from the website now shows Doncaster to Hull timetable under Leeds to Chester
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Post by deerfold on Sept 11, 2020 20:23:28 GMT 1
Have they noted that anywhere useful? Because I still get the same timetable when I look it up on their website. Perhaps they should remove the leaflet or put a comment next to the link? Probably a post it note that got blown away. The link from the website now shows Doncaster to Hull timetable under Leeds to Chester So it has. Well, it only starts on Monday; plenty of time to sort it out.
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Post by Bradford Traveller on Sept 26, 2020 2:28:11 GMT 1
The Bentham Line and Settle Line timetables are here (pdf version): d11vpqhghel6qd.cloudfront.net/images/timetables/bucket/leeds-to-carlisle-and-leeds-to-morecambe--heysham-port-3835.pdf Bentham Line Mondays to Saturdays new, limited timetable with last trip from Leeds 17:26 to Morecambe and back. Additional bus * Carnforth 17:05 to Skipton. Settle Line Mondays to Fridays new, limited timetable with some later trains. Additional buses * Skipton 16:00 to Ribblehead and * Carlisle 17:45 to Kirby Stephen. Saturdays a near-normal service but most trains run between Skipton and Carlisle only.
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Post by Bradford Traveller on Sept 26, 2020 2:42:31 GMT 1
North Bradford Electrics
Airedale Line The first train from Bradford 06:03 to Steeton and Silsden/Skipton is cut. The last train from Skipton 22:34 to Bradford is restored.
Mondays to Saturdays most lines have a near-normal frequency but some first and last trains are cut.
Sundays no frequency changes but some late trains are cut.
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Oct 30, 2020 22:36:16 GMT 1
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Post by Bradford Traveller on Oct 30, 2020 22:36:16 GMT 1
Next Mondays to Fridays timetable will run from 14 December
Main changes
Changed frequency on the following routes:
Leeds to Carlisle 8 trains a day
Leeds to Chester hourly all day including 15:42 ex Leeds
Leeds to Morecambe 4 trains a day (Skipton to Lancaster 6 trains a day in total)
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Post by deerfold on Oct 31, 2020 15:49:21 GMT 1
Next Mondays to Fridays timetable will run from 14 December Main changes Changed frequency on the following routes: Leeds to Carlisle 8 trains a day Leeds to Chester hourly all day including 15:42 ex Leeds Leeds to Lancaster will run through too - Monday to Saturday 4 trains a day Leeds to Morecambe and return, 1 Leeds to Lancaster and return, 1 Skipton to Lancaster and return. Sunday 4 trains a day Leeds to Morecambe and return, 1 Leeds to Heysham Port and return.
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Post by Bradford Traveller on Nov 6, 2020 22:01:22 GMT 1
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Post by Bradford Traveller on Nov 27, 2020 23:13:40 GMT 1
Today marks the final passenger service operated by a Pacer train on Northern.
The 1636 from Kirkby was due to arrive in to Manchester Victoria imminently where it will then make its final journey to the depot.
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Post by stevieinselby on Nov 28, 2020 1:11:40 GMT 1
Today marks the final passenger service operated by a Pacer train on Northern. The 1636 from Kirkby was due to arrive in to Manchester Victoria imminently where it will then make its final journey to the depot. I hope they can set up a webcam that streams all the Pacers as they are put through the crusher, or whatever happens to dead trains, so that we can cheer at each and every one's long-overdue demise 🍾
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Post by driver6540 on Nov 28, 2020 23:13:28 GMT 1
Today marks the final passenger service operated by a Pacer train on Northern. The 1636 from Kirkby was due to arrive in to Manchester Victoria imminently where it will then make its final journey to the depot. I hope they can set up a webcam that streams all the Pacers as they are put through the crusher, or whatever happens to dead trains, so that we can cheer at each and every one's long-overdue demise 🍾 Very rare these days i see a post that echoes my thoughts but, SIS you've managed to do so. Good riddance to these "nodding dog" railbuses which lumbered on far beyond their perceived 20 yr lifespan. To all the dewy eyed nostalgists who'll bemoan their passing i say, get over it and embrace the comfort, space and vastly improved ride quality their replacement 170/195's offer, at least they are proper trains. even the 150 sprinters universally unpopular with enthusiasts are a marked improvement over them, this i know as a regular passenger on the Huddersfield to Sheffield Penistone line service. I believe a few are going to be preserved, Where though? heritage railway lines or bus museums?
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Post by irhardy on Nov 29, 2020 12:26:01 GMT 1
I know people are not going to like my statement, but if it was not for the Pacers, I could imagine that there would be a lot of railway lines that would have been closed by now as they were uneconomic to operate with anything more hi-tec than the Pacer.
I agree that they have outstayed their 20 year lift span, but unfortunately it is only since April 2016 has there either been an business case that has been acceptable or there has been the political will to spend money on new trains to enable the Pacers to have been replaced.
If rail usage in the north since WW2 had been the same as that there was & is on the Southern 3rd Rail network where into Waterloo on the fast line in the morning peak between 07:30 & 09:00 there are nose to tail 12 car trains with people standing in all the carriages, then it might have been different.
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Post by joseph on Nov 29, 2020 13:36:35 GMT 1
I know some people will say trains should be comfortable, but that comes at a price. I'd much rather see pacers and cheaper fares than newer trains with the cost passed on to the user. The PM peak ban on off peak fares came about because the government wanted funds to invest, I suspect some of this investment was new or refurbished trains. Personally, I wish they kept the off peak fare as it is a massive inconvenience when I'm having to wait about til after 6.30, or finish my walk much earlier, I'll happily put up with a pacer if it means I'm not paying more just because I'm travelling during a certain time. Oh and don't forget, you can open a window on a pacer, but you can't fix broken air conditioning lol.
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Post by resolution on Nov 29, 2020 18:33:01 GMT 1
I hope they can set up a webcam that streams all the Pacers as they are put through the crusher, or whatever happens to dead trains, so that we can cheer at each and every one's long-overdue demise 🍾 Very rare these days i see a post that echoes my thoughts but, SIS you've managed to do so. Good riddance to these "nodding dog" railbuses which lumbered on far beyond their perceived 20 yr lifespan. To all the dewy eyed nostalgists who'll bemoan their passing i say, get over it and embrace the comfort, space and vastly improved ride quality their replacement 170/195's offer, at least they are proper trains. even the 150 sprinters universally unpopular with enthusiasts are a marked improvement over them, this i know as a regular passenger on the Huddersfield to Sheffield Penistone line service. I believe a few are going to be preserved, Where though? heritage railway lines or bus museums? For the record, at my last count at least 26 'Pacers' (16 142s and 10 144s) had been acquired for further service by what might broadly be classed as heritage railways. And, as a regular user of the Penistone line myself, I'd rather have a 144 any time than one of those dreadful hole-and-corner class 150 units.
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Post by driver6540 on Nov 29, 2020 22:44:23 GMT 1
Very rare these days i see a post that echoes my thoughts but, SIS you've managed to do so. Good riddance to these "nodding dog" railbuses which lumbered on far beyond their perceived 20 yr lifespan. To all the dewy eyed nostalgists who'll bemoan their passing i say, get over it and embrace the comfort, space and vastly improved ride quality their replacement 170/195's offer, at least they are proper trains. even the 150 sprinters universally unpopular with enthusiasts are a marked improvement over them, this i know as a regular passenger on the Huddersfield to Sheffield Penistone line service. I believe a few are going to be preserved, Where though? heritage railway lines or bus museums? For the record, at my last count at least 26 'Pacers' (16 142s and 10 144s) had been acquired for further service by what might broadly be classed as heritage railways. And, as a regular user of the Penistone line myself, I'd rather have a 144 any time than one of those dreadful hole-and-corner class 150 units. Of course, opinions will differ. But what are you talking about when you refer to class 150's as hole-and-corner, can you expand on this?. I've not heard this jargon used before to describe a 150 so i'm interested to know what you mean. Thankyou.
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Nov 30, 2020 10:32:51 GMT 1
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Post by adam on Nov 30, 2020 10:32:51 GMT 1
I've never heard of hole and corner either and I work with 150s 😀
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Post by Bradford Traveller on Dec 2, 2020 20:04:20 GMT 1
Christmas/New Year dates and service times in West Yorkshire:
- Christmas Eve - Services as normal all day, but last departure is at around 20:00 on all routes.
- Christmas Day - Boxing Day - No service
- 27 December - Services will start around 08:30 as a normal Sunday timetable.
- 28 - 30 December - Normal service.
- New Years Eve - trains will run as normal during the day, but no departures after 20:00.
- New Years Day - first departure at around 08:00, then normal service on all West Yorkshire routes.
- 2 January onwards - trains will run as normal.
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Post by yorkslad on Dec 2, 2020 23:21:15 GMT 1
I've never heard of hole and corner either and I work with 150s 😀
I'm going to guess he thinks they're a toilet of a train. An open latrine, if you will...
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Post by MetrolineGA1511 on Dec 5, 2020 4:58:59 GMT 1
Now that the Pacers have all been withdrawn, the 769s could enable more trains to be operated by pairs of Sprinters.
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Post by resolution on Dec 5, 2020 21:30:38 GMT 1
For the record, at my last count at least 26 'Pacers' (16 142s and 10 144s) had been acquired for further service by what might broadly be classed as heritage railways. And, as a regular user of the Penistone line myself, I'd rather have a 144 any time than one of those dreadful hole-and-corner class 150 units. Of course, opinions will differ. But what are you talking about when you refer to class 150's as hole-and-corner, can you expand on this?. I've not heard this jargon used before to describe a 150 so i'm interested to know what you mean. Thankyou. I mean that the seats are all over the place in holes and corners. I don't like sitting next to a wall or opposite a toilet, nor do I like having to stare at and avoid locking knees with a perfect stranger or having to face inwards across the carriage. They are grotty, uncomfortable trains and just as old as Pacers. On a 144 you could sit next to a window and mind your own business and except for certain notorious bits of track get a perfectly smooth ride on the Penistone line.
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Post by Bradford Traveller on Jan 12, 2021 12:50:18 GMT 1
From 18 January 2021, a temporary Mondays to Saturdays timetable will be in force, valid until 6 March.
* Bradford Forster Square – Leeds HOURLY (no evenings short working to Shipley) * Bradford Forster Square – Ilkley HOURLY * Leeds – Ilkley HOURLY
NOTE some Skipton – Leeds/Bradford Forster Square journeys are WITHDRAWN
NOTE diesel service, trains are running * Skipton – Lancaster – Morecambe * Leeds – Ribblehead – Carlisle LIMITED SERVICE, some trains are WITHDRAWN.
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