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Post by gooderson1 on Jun 4, 2018 7:16:52 GMT 1
The Northern Trains saga has just been discussed on The Today programme on BBC radio 4. Andy Burnham(Manchester Mayor) has been interviewed. The presenter then mentioned that the programme had asked the MD of Northern Rail for an interview. The reply from Northern was "he is to busy". Another own goal for their public relations.
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Post by kendall17 on Jun 4, 2018 7:42:53 GMT 1
Lake District bus replacement is just for two weeks What's bizarre is that the replacement bus timetable shows an hourly all stations bus and an hourly fast bus, calling at Oxenholme, Kendal and Windermere only - but they have exactly the same departure and arrival times! Same planners that give 9mins for a bus to depart Pudsey & get to Bradford Interchange.
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Post by biroguy on Jun 4, 2018 8:40:04 GMT 1
The Northern Trains saga has just been discussed on The Today programme on BBC radio 4. Andy Burnham(Manchester Mayor) has been interviewed. The presenter then mentioned that the programme had asked the MD of Northern Rail for an interview. The reply from Northern was "he is to busy". Another own goal for their public relations. He was on BBC Breakfast, first time I`ve ever seen him in public! What was interesting is that no mention was made of the bitter dispute with the RMT, surely that needs to be sorted too? The poor passenger is caught in the middle of all this.
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Post by gooderson1 on Jun 6, 2018 10:06:02 GMT 1
The first of the refurbished class 170's has entered service on the York-Leeds via Harrogate service. Another 17 units to follow across the fleet.
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Post by adam on Jun 6, 2018 20:32:21 GMT 1
The first refurbished 170 has been in service since 21st May the 1st day they were timetabled to run
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Post by biroguy on Jul 4, 2018 21:46:56 GMT 1
Turbostars may be taken off the Harrogate line, issues with engines overheating. They are not used to constant stop start work.
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Post by adam on Jul 5, 2018 8:53:43 GMT 1
Oh dear
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Post by Bradford Traveller on Oct 8, 2018 13:51:34 GMT 1
Current plan for the December 2018 timetable (Mondays to Saturdays) is as follows: Preston -> York (calls at Bramley towards York, then Leeds and Church Fenton only) Manchester Victoria -> Leeds (via Bradford) Leeds --> Selby/York (calling stations to Micklefield)
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Post by glennh2 on Oct 8, 2018 16:39:54 GMT 1
Loss of service to Selby line from Calder Valley and no additional frequency yet. Thought we were supposed to be moving forwards under Arriva not backwards
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Post by adam on Oct 8, 2018 17:27:47 GMT 1
Unfortunately the Leeds to York/Selby are going stand-alone as they will utilise the class 170 units which can’t go down the Calder valley due to clearance issues
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Post by hstjohnny on Oct 19, 2018 15:48:06 GMT 1
Unfortunately the Leeds to York/Selby are going stand-alone as they will utilise the class 170 units which can’t go down the Calder valley due to clearance issues The Leeds - York and York- Prestons will interwork all day so I can't see that happening. Anyways the clearance issues are set the resolved soon as it also effects the 195s
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Post by adam on Oct 19, 2018 21:12:24 GMT 1
Sorry I hadn’t analysed the timetables and thought the Leeds to York was a shuttle all day not interworking. The tunnel affects TPEs new trains too so it will get sorted if possible as it’s a real problem
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Post by Bradford Traveller on Oct 21, 2018 13:17:11 GMT 1
Sorry I hadn’t analysed the timetables and thought the Leeds to York was a shuttle all day not interworking. The tunnel affects TPEs new trains too so it will get sorted if possible as it’s a real problem The new December 2018 timetable amendments were intended for May 2018. The present timetable is only temporary. Loss of service to Selby line from Calder Valley and no additional frequency yet. Thought we were supposed to be moving forwards under Arriva not backwards
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Post by Bradford Traveller on Oct 21, 2018 13:26:42 GMT 1
Unfortunately the Leeds to York/Selby are going stand-alone as they will utilise the class 170 units which can’t go down the Calder valley due to clearance issues I think that this is to improve timekeeping on both Manchester-> Leeds and the Leeds-> Selby/York locals. The future plan is for trains to start back at Chester, Manchester Airport or Liverpool, so timekeeping would be more of an issue.
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Post by Bradford Traveller on Oct 23, 2018 17:32:58 GMT 1
Platforms 3&4 at Bradford Interchange are being lengthened to take the new trains. Other stations along the Calder Valley are also to have longer platforms, either by building an extension to the existing platform or reopening a currently closed-off section.
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Post by ratty on Nov 16, 2018 11:31:52 GMT 1
Bumped in to a friend of mine, who is based at Blackpool North. We were talking about whether he would see the new stuff, currently being tested. He told me that at BPN they are to be passed on both types AND when that happens the York to Prestons will revert to BPN. The 331's are for BPN to Manchester Airports, and the 195's are for the Yorks.
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Post by Bradford Traveller on Mar 10, 2019 4:39:47 GMT 1
May 2019
The following alterations are to take place, no confirmation of exact times
Mondays to Saturdays: York -> Blackpool North, calling at Church Fenton (doesn't call at east Leeds local stations* or Bramley).
* note there's 2tph calling at east Leeds local stations, 1tph from Selby plus 1tph from York but these will not continue beyond Leeds.
Mon-Sat extra trains 22:15 Blackpool North -> Leeds 22:17 York -> Blackburn
Mondays to Saturdays: xx39 or xx36 Leeds -> Chester via Bradford Interchange. The present class 1 services that arrive Manchester Victoria around xx05 will continue to Warrington Bank Quay and Chester¶ most hours.
¶ One train daily from Ellesmere Port.
There will be changes to the Mon-Sat clockface pattern on ALL trains via Halifax, resulting in a irregular timetable from Halifax to Leeds, with half-hour gaps during the day, as proposed in the abandoned May 2018 timetable.
SUNDAYS.
Leeds->Blackpool North, note will start at Leeds on Sundays, doesn't call at Bramley.
The York->Leeds local train will also run Sundays and call additionally at Church Fenton most hours
The Selby->Leeds local train will also run Sundays
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Post by Bradford Traveller on Mar 14, 2019 13:52:15 GMT 1
May 2019 changes
Extra morning train Mondays to Saturdays, Leeds 07:20 -> Lancaster 09:41 -> Leeds, with some timetable changes to other Carlisle or Morecambe trains.
SUNDAYS.
Leeds->Lancaster
Note that trains will only run to Lancaster and back, not serving Bare Lane or Morecambe
Mon-Sat daytime: Harrogate xx02 -> Leeds semi fast, calling only at Hornbeam Park and Horsforth, extra 1tph.
Mon-Sat all day: Wakefield Kirkgate -> Huddersfield will start back at Castleford xx56.
Mondays to Sundays: Doncaster/Sheffield -> Leeds stoppers calling at Fitzwilliam, each 1tph
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Post by Bradford Traveller on Apr 5, 2019 21:42:16 GMT 1
Note the new timetables for May 2019 are available on the northern railway site.
No details of the new Chester trains available.
Note some sections of route are not served on Sundays.
York->Blackpool North will start at Leeds
Leeds->Morecambe will turn back at Lancaster
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Post by adam on Apr 6, 2019 6:58:31 GMT 1
How strange about the Sunday Blackpool’s
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Post by glennh2 on Apr 6, 2019 9:57:59 GMT 1
Real Time Trains shows the Chester trains depart Leeds at xx36/7/8/9 from 0539 to 1939 apart from the 1539 which provides the Helsby- Ellesmere Port branch PM peak service Monday to Friday. On Saturdays this train goes to Chester like the others. There is no Chester Sunday service yet
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Post by Bradford Traveller on Apr 6, 2019 19:50:49 GMT 1
Real Time Trains shows the Chester trains depart Leeds at xx36/7/8/9 from 0539 to 1939 apart from the 1539 which provides the Helsby- Ellesmere Port branch PM peak service Monday to Friday. On Saturdays this train goes to Chester like the others. There is no Chester Sunday service yet There doesn't appear to be a timetable leaflet listing the new Chester services. One of the new leaflets shows Manc Vic-> Warrington Bank Quay, and indeed has the peak services for Ellesmere Port in a separate table, but no departure time for Chester
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Post by glennh2 on Apr 6, 2019 21:16:18 GMT 1
Chester departures to Halifax and Leeds on RTT: 0617, 0821, 0921, 1023, 1124,1224, 1321, 1420, 1517, 1614, 1716, 1920, 2020. There is an 0715 Ellesmere Port train Mon to Fri but no train at 18xx for some reason (it should be an Ellesmere Port service at 1823 but that train terminates at Man Vic for some reason)
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Post by Burnside on Apr 7, 2019 0:04:13 GMT 1
Note the new timetables for May 2019 are available on the northern railway site. No details of the new Chester trains available. Note some sections of route are not served on Sundays. York->Blackpool North will start at Leeds Leeds->Morecambe will turn back at Lancaster Trains from Leeds have terminated at Lancaster on Sundays since the start of this current timetable back in December. Easy connection to the Lancaster to Morecambe shuttle though. Leeds to Chester is approx. hourly (05:39 - 19:39 from Leeds and 06:17, approx hourly 08:20 - 17:16 then 19:16 and 20:20 from Chester) on Monday - Saturday. The notable exception is the 15:38 from Leeds which on weekdays goes instead to Ellesmere Port via Frodsham and Helsby. Elsewhere (apologies if already noted), the Leeds to Lincoln service is accelerated between Sheffield and Lincoln with the introduction of a new Sheffield to Gainsborough Central service which takes the calls at intermediate stops the Leeds service previously made.
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Post by Bradford Traveller on Apr 7, 2019 20:52:09 GMT 1
Currently trains DO terminate at Lancaster on Sundays as shown on RTT, HOWEVER they return via Morecambe, although bizarrely today's RTT shows the trains running non-stop via Morecambe!!
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