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Post by davopazza on Jun 2, 2018 9:54:27 GMT 1
Interesting development is that when the Mk3 rakes enter service, they will be unsuitable for wheelchair passengers as there is no DDA compliant facilities on board. Might not be too big a problem between, say, Leeds and Manchester given the high frequency of alternative journeys but as these will be working to Scarborough, it puts large gaps in the timetable for disabled passengers. How many rakes are there going to be?
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Post by biroguy on Jun 2, 2018 10:28:33 GMT 1
My friend commutes daily on TPE Leeds to Manchester and in the past week station stops are being dropped at short notice to make up time, Dewsbury in particular gets the chop! A complete shambles
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Post by davopazza on Jun 2, 2018 12:21:24 GMT 1
My friend commutes daily on TPE Leeds to Manchester and in the past week station stops are being dropped at short notice to make up time, Dewsbury in particular gets the chop! A complete shambles I do Leeds to Manchester twice a week. Since the new timetables have started, I haven’t got home on time.
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Post by Burnside on Jun 2, 2018 12:39:38 GMT 1
Interesting development is that when the Mk3 rakes enter service, they will be unsuitable for wheelchair passengers as there is no DDA compliant facilities on board. Might not be too big a problem between, say, Leeds and Manchester given the high frequency of alternative journeys but as these will be working to Scarborough, it puts large gaps in the timetable for disabled passengers. How many rakes are there going to be? Two rakes of Mk3's. If the diagrams posted on the last page are correct, TPE in their infinite wisdom have put them an hour apart, which means wheelchair bound passengers won't have facilities on the following departures from Scarborough: 08:46, 09:46, 14:46, 15:46, 20:50 or 21:46, meaning a gap of 3 HOURS on an hourly service! Link to the article: www.disabilitynewsservice.com/rail-company-to-run-services-with-no-wheelchair-spaces-on-governments-orders/
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Post by davopazza on Jun 2, 2018 12:51:31 GMT 1
The mention of Connex is a blast from the past. It would have made sense to be put on a Newcastle service. At least there is two an hour.
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Post by Burnside on Jun 2, 2018 13:50:30 GMT 1
Or at least a bit more evenly spread out so they are not on successive services!
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Post by glennh2 on Jun 2, 2018 14:00:08 GMT 1
According to the above link TPE will pay for a taxi if a disabled passenger cannot board two consecutive trains
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Post by gledhill56 on Jun 2, 2018 18:49:26 GMT 1
Hopefully there are plans to improve the platforms at Marsden, people boarding and alighting at Platform 2 are certainly having difficulties. TPE had better be supplying vaulting poles for passengers.
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Post by westyorkshirebus on Jun 2, 2018 19:25:29 GMT 1
Why is the platform so low in the first place?
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Post by gledhill56 on Jun 2, 2018 20:19:21 GMT 1
Platform 1 is fine, 3 is currently being extended. Don’t think 2 was ever improved given it was the fast line and nothing used to serve it.
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Post by davopazza on Jun 3, 2018 9:47:17 GMT 1
How come tpe are using platform 2, is it whilst the others are being improved?
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Post by westyorkshirebus on Jun 3, 2018 10:06:05 GMT 1
I’m guessing using the slow line and Platform 1 would compromise the timetable. There is no need to as the stopper doesn’t need to get out of the way of the express anymore.
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Post by gledhill56 on Jun 3, 2018 11:19:24 GMT 1
Don’t recall the stopper using it at Marsden to jump out of the way before the timetable change to my knowledge. Think it was used purely because it was the only platform that had disabled access.
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Post by davopazza on Jun 8, 2018 19:39:27 GMT 1
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Post by Deleted on Jun 9, 2018 11:27:45 GMT 1
Brilliant own goal by the minority no extra capacity now across summer, take a bow a small minority satisfied a huge majority left in sardine conditions - very impressive!
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Post by davopazza on Jun 9, 2018 12:34:33 GMT 1
Brilliant own goal by the minority no extra capacity now across summer, take a bow a small minority satisfied a huge majority left in sardine conditions - very impressive! I don’t agree. Imagine turning up at a station being told you can’t travel on a train because you have a disability and to maybe wait a while for the next? I believe it sits with TP Express to look at another possible way of improving capacity in a way which doesn’t discriminate.
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Post by gledhill56 on Jun 9, 2018 15:38:12 GMT 1
It was only intended as a stopgap. Can’t see anyone jumping up and complaining about Marsdens disabled access though .
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Post by Deleted on Jun 10, 2018 18:44:07 GMT 1
Brilliant own goal by the minority no extra capacity now across summer, take a bow a small minority satisfied a huge majority left in sardine conditions - very impressive! I don’t agree. Imagine turning up at a station being told you can’t travel on a train because you have a disability and to maybe wait a while for the next? I believe it sits with TP Express to look at another possible way of improving capacity in a way which doesn’t discriminate. Oh please do me a favour, if you have the slightest clue about the rail industry are you able to supply suitable rolling stock to fill the now lack of capacity, the world has gone mad whilst I in no way wish to be seen as unsympathetic to disabled travellers I think this really does their cause no good and merely a good sound bite to have a moan about, now it’s a case of you don’t have a train nor do we now that’s a REAL improvement for all isn’t it! This also now means that everybody eleses journeys are made needlessly uncomfortable surely for a matter of a few months this could have been lived with and worked round, quite sad and pathetic that its led to no additional capacity that is quite eveidently needed.
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Post by gledhill56 on Jun 10, 2018 20:28:30 GMT 1
The only thing they should have done was change the diagrams they were scheduled for to space them out so they weren’t on consecutive services to avoid a 3h gap in service for disabled travellers. It was only a stopgap solution at the end of the day.
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Post by davopazza on Jun 11, 2018 7:37:48 GMT 1
I don’t agree. Imagine turning up at a station being told you can’t travel on a train because you have a disability and to maybe wait a while for the next? I believe it sits with TP Express to look at another possible way of improving capacity in a way which doesn’t discriminate. Oh please do me a favour, if you have the slightest clue about the rail industry are you able to supply suitable rolling stock to fill the now lack of capacity, the world has gone mad whilst I in no way wish to be seen as unsympathetic to disabled travellers I think this really does their cause no good and merely a good sound bite to have a moan about, now it’s a case of you don’t have a train nor do we now that’s a REAL improvement for all isn’t it! This also now means that everybody eleses journeys are made needlessly uncomfortable surely for a matter of a few months this could have been lived with and worked round, quite sad and pathetic that its led to no additional capacity that is quite eveidently needed. Again the issue is with TPE to introduce them in a way that doesn’t discriminate and not the fault of people with a disibility. I live in Castleford and work in Manchester and use the train for my commute. There has been a few times I have stood the journey so understand exactly what the issues are but they are nothing new.
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Post by Arriva Wakefield on Jun 11, 2018 15:44:57 GMT 1
Oh please do me a favour, if you have the slightest clue about the rail industry are you able to supply suitable rolling stock to fill the now lack of capacity, the world has gone mad whilst I in no way wish to be seen as unsympathetic to disabled travellers I think this really does their cause no good and merely a good sound bite to have a moan about, now it’s a case of you don’t have a train nor do we now that’s a REAL improvement for all isn’t it! This also now means that everybody eleses journeys are made needlessly uncomfortable surely for a matter of a few months this could have been lived with and worked round, quite sad and pathetic that its led to no additional capacity that is quite eveidently needed. Again the issue is with TPE to introduce them in a way that doesn’t discriminate and not the fault of people with a disibility. I live in Castleford and work in Manchester and use the train for my commute. There has been a few times I have stood the journey so understand exactly what the issues are but they are nothing new. This way they would manage to do the staff training, increase capacity and run a service. People complained, so what is the outcome? Drivers will need to be taken off their duties for training on the 68s, leading to reduced capacity, and cancellations.
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Post by Bradford Traveller on Oct 8, 2018 13:33:16 GMT 1
December 2018 The Train Service Requirement 2 (TSR2) structure will continue as implemented in May 2018, with no change to the timetable of the York to Manchester Victoria (via Huddersfield) fast services. However the Leeds to Manchester Piccadilly stopping service will be split at Huddersfield, to resolve some of the delays (note: Mondays to Sundays). Hull -> Manchester Piccadilly (semi fast, calls additionally at Mossley) Leeds -> Huddersfield (all stops) Huddersfield -> Manchester Piccadilly (all stops except Mossley)
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Post by gledhill56 on Oct 8, 2018 22:31:00 GMT 1
Wonder which service will pick up the Mosley stops then or will they be covered by the Hull service?
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Post by Bradford Traveller on Oct 8, 2018 23:49:09 GMT 1
Wonder which service will pick up the Mosley stops then or will they be covered by the Hull service? Yes, the Hull service will call at Mossley
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Post by davopazza on Nov 12, 2018 21:07:55 GMT 1
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