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Post by adam on Nov 13, 2018 12:23:17 GMT 1
December 2018 The Train Service Requirement 2 (TSR2) structure will continue as implemented in May 2018, with no change to the timetable of the York to Manchester Victoria (via Huddersfield) fast services. However the Leeds to Manchester Piccadilly stopping service will be split at Huddersfield, to resolve some of the delays (note: Mondays to Sundays). Hull -> Manchester Piccadilly (semi fast, calls additionally at Mossley) Leeds -> Huddersfield (all stops) Huddersfield -> Manchester Piccadilly (all stops except Mossley) The Leeds to Huddersfield bit will be a TPE service run using a northern 170, northern driver and a TPE conductor
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Post by SCH117X on Nov 13, 2018 18:24:50 GMT 1
Note on TPs web site they have simply changed the Arriving Autumn 2018 to Arriving Spring 2019 without any explanation of the delay, um,.. TP not explaining a delay, no surprises there.
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Post by davopazza on Nov 13, 2018 19:30:38 GMT 1
Note on TPs web site they have simply changed the Arriving Autumn 2018 to Arriving Spring 2019 without any explanation of the delay, um,.. TP not explaining a delay, no surprises there. Maybe hope nobody notices and when they do, we get told sorry for any inconvenience caused :-).
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Post by SCH117X on Nov 13, 2018 20:59:16 GMT 1
Maybe hope nobody notices and when they do, we get told sorry for any inconvenience caused :-). Suspect all the passengers crammed into 3 car 185s will be noticing
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Post by resolution on Nov 14, 2018 0:45:29 GMT 1
Maybe hope nobody notices and when they do, we get told sorry for any inconvenience caused :-). Suspect all the passengers crammed into 3 car 185s will be noticing True, but it might be worth remembering that neither the current franchisee nor its predecessor is to blame for that; the current fleet is the result of a series of Government refusals to sanction extra 185s, extra cars on existing 185s and willingness to allow 170s to be transferred away to the poor deprived commuters of Oxfordshire
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Post by biroguy on Nov 15, 2018 17:46:29 GMT 1
December 2018 The Train Service Requirement 2 (TSR2) structure will continue as implemented in May 2018, with no change to the timetable of the York to Manchester Victoria (via Huddersfield) fast services. However the Leeds to Manchester Piccadilly stopping service will be split at Huddersfield, to resolve some of the delays (note: Mondays to Sundays). Hull -> Manchester Piccadilly (semi fast, calls additionally at Mossley) Leeds -> Huddersfield (all stops) Huddersfield -> Manchester Piccadilly (all stops except Mossley) The Leeds to Huddersfield bit will be a TPE service run using a northern 170, northern driver and a TPE conductor Does that mean it will run on Saturdays as it has a TPE guard on it?
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Post by adam on Nov 16, 2018 9:23:59 GMT 1
Yeah because it’s a TPE service
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Post by deerfold on Nov 16, 2018 12:13:50 GMT 1
Yeah because it’s a TPE service With a Northern driver, some of whom will be on strike.
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Post by westyorkshirebus on Nov 16, 2018 19:46:25 GMT 1
Northern drivers aren't on strike
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Post by FIYHANunDer on Nov 16, 2018 21:41:48 GMT 1
Northern drivers aren't on strike Really? I know a Northern driver who would very much disagree with this.
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Post by westyorkshirebus on Nov 16, 2018 21:50:07 GMT 1
I thought drivers were in ASLEF, and it was guards represented by the RMT?
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Post by gooderson1 on Nov 16, 2018 22:06:30 GMT 1
Yes Northern train drivers are(in the majority) part of Aslef and guards are RMT. As RMT are on strike the trains can't run as most of the units are not fitted with driver operated doors.
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Post by gledhill56 on Nov 17, 2018 17:20:12 GMT 1
Except the service is crewed with a TPE guard so it can run surely?
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Post by Burnside on Nov 17, 2018 19:06:55 GMT 1
Northern conductors are on strike, however, as happened in Liverpool on MerseyRail, there may be some drivers who refuse to cross the picket line.
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Post by resolution on Nov 18, 2018 13:45:08 GMT 1
It's quite simple really; the revised arrangements for stopping services on the Huddersfield route require extra units which TPE does not have (as discussed earlier in this thread) and so has to hire them from Northern. TPE drivers aren't trained up on the Northern units so Northern has to provide the driver. It's a TPE service so TPE provides the conductor. TPE conductors aren't on strike; Northern drivers aren't on strike. So the trains should run. Of course one must question whether Northern conductors would work a TPE service, given that their dispute is with Northern and not with TPE but at the moment that doesn't appear to be an issue.
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Post by deerfold on Nov 18, 2018 14:04:09 GMT 1
It's quite simple really; the revised arrangements for stopping services on the Huddersfield route require extra units which TPE does not have (as discussed earlier in this thread) and so has to hire them from Northern. TPE drivers aren't trained up on the Northern units so Northern has to provide the driver. It's a TPE service so TPE provides the conductor. TPE conductors aren't on strike; Northern drivers aren't on strike. So the trains should run. Of course one must question whether Northern conductors would work a TPE service, given that their dispute is with Northern and not with TPE but at the moment that doesn't appear to be an issue. Drivers in ASLEF aren't on strike. Drivers in the RMT are. Most drivers are in ASLEF, but not all If TPE are subcontracting guard duties to Northern, the Northern employee is still working for Northern.
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Post by driver6540 on Jan 28, 2019 22:38:03 GMT 1
Several times in the last month or so, a class 68 (TPE) liveried plus a rake of the new CAF Mk5 coaches (inc DVT) has passed through Dewsbury eastbound approx 06.30, presumably on trial runs. So possibly not long now till they enter service.
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Post by gooderson1 on Jan 28, 2019 23:23:15 GMT 1
A recent Rail magazine update seemed to indicate that the new CAF Mk5 coaches would not enter service until the next timetable change in May 2019!
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Post by chas on Jan 28, 2019 23:39:11 GMT 1
Several times in the last month or so, a class 68 (TPE) liveried plus a rake of the new CAF Mk5 coaches (inc DVT) has passed through Dewsbury eastbound approx 06.30, presumably on trial runs. So possibly not long now till they enter service. This ran on Friday and today timed at 0518 with return at 0955 - except that today it was about 70 and 40 minutes late respectively. Looks like the trips are only entered in the early hours as required.
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Post by driver6540 on Mar 25, 2019 23:58:37 GMT 1
This morning approx 6.45-7.00 ish, from a fair distance away i think i saw a TPE 802 heading towards Dewsbury. Can anyone confirm?, or was it early morning eyes playing tricks?
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Post by Steve Macz403 on Mar 28, 2019 9:16:43 GMT 1
This morning approx 6.45-7.00 ish, from a fair distance away i think i saw a TPE 802 heading towards Dewsbury. Can anyone confirm?, or was it early morning eyes playing tricks? It probably wasn’t a trick. I’ve seen the class 68 mk5 formation run on the line between Neville Hill depot and Leeds in February. There is a TPE 802 out there, someone video’d it on the ECML on youtube..
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Post by gledhill56 on Mar 28, 2019 19:53:18 GMT 1
A 68+Mk5 set came through Marsden last night heading towards Huddersfield at approximately 2015.
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Post by driver6540 on Mar 30, 2019 16:33:14 GMT 1
This morning approx 6.45-7.00 ish, from a fair distance away i think i saw a TPE 802 heading towards Dewsbury. Can anyone confirm?, or was it early morning eyes playing tricks? Confirmed!, someone who knows far more than me about railway matters saw this train gingerly passing through Batley station approx 10 mins after i saw it. Although he didn't get no he also stated there are photos uploaded to Flickr of a TPE 802 passing through Mirfield station on an overnight test run.
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Post by driver6540 on Mar 30, 2019 17:30:38 GMT 1
A 68+Mk5 set came through Marsden last night heading towards Huddersfield at approximately 2015. Im fair looking forward to these entering service, It'll be refreshing to ride a "proper" loco hauled train again after all these years of bland autonomous multiple units since privatisation. Im old enough to remember being on a Class 47/DVT push-pull service between Glasgow Queen St and Edinburgh Waverley when i was in my youth and i think its absolutely marvelous TPE is reintroducing this concept. Of course the 68 sounds decidedly muted compared to the old class 47's, but given todays enviromental concerns the wonderful noise and clag of the old type loco's would be deemed unacceptable for us these days, mores the pity!.
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Post by Arriva Wakefield on Mar 31, 2019 11:57:35 GMT 1
A 68+Mk5 set came through Marsden last night heading towards Huddersfield at approximately 2015. Im fair looking forward to these entering service, It'll be refreshing to ride a "proper" loco hauled train again after all these years of bland autonomous multiple units since privatisation. Im old enough to remember being on a Class 47/DVT push-pull service between Glasgow Queen St and Edinburgh Waverley when i was in my youth and i think its absolutely marvelous TPE is reintroducing this concept. Of course the 68 sounds decidedly muted compared to the old class 47's, but given todays enviromental concerns the wonderful noise and clag of the old type loco's would be deemed unacceptable for us these days, mores the pity!. The 47/7s used DBSO’s rather than DVT’s - they carried passengers like the DT’s on the 68 will do. Apparently the soundproofing is so good on the Mk 5s, that you will hardly hear the 68s even on full power.
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