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Post by Deleted on Dec 6, 2007 0:51:57 GMT 1
UNCONFIRMED REPORTS FROM SHIPLEY. :-( The Cottingley-West Bowling service to run via Owlet Road [withdraw Crag Road leg].'? [so would the new service cover this road] Problems at Hirst Wood terminus. SERVICE 679/810 to use DALLAM AVENUE triangle as terminus.'?
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Post by leedstom on Dec 7, 2007 0:51:27 GMT 1
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Post by A1YBG on Dec 7, 2007 9:10:01 GMT 1
Noticed from begining of this topic that the Arriva 284 Deswbury-Heckmondwike is being WITHDRAWN. Why is this? I use this bus every morning to get to Batley Train Station. There isn't another bus that goes near stn. A good few people get on this. Also the only bus to run along Bradford Road (along Frontier section). Why withdraw a service that a good few get on when we have services like 213 Morley-Dewsbury still running that sometimes been just me on all the way from Morley to Batley. Sometimes empty!!!
Arriva like to WITHDRAW services that more people get and Keep the ones nooone gets on.
Example. 152/153 Changed from Hourly to 2 Hours also now 153. Bus was ALWAYS packed from Morley. It still is packed. Full from first stop of journey.
Gaz
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Post by rossbailey on Dec 7, 2007 13:31:33 GMT 1
Here are the West Yorkshire Bus service’s listed on VOSA website so far for some service changes to take place on the weekend of 27th & 28th January 2008.
ARRIVA YORKSHIRE CHANGES.
To amend Timetables:
116/117/118/121/482/483 = Wakefield Bus Station and Leeds City Bus 201/202/203 = Leeds City Bus Station and Huddersfield Bus Station 205/206/557 = Mirfield Ings Grove Park and Pudsey Bus Station 212/230 = Dewsbury and Wakefield 217/219/229 = Leeds City Bus Station and Huddersfield Bus Station 220/221 = Leeds City Bus Station and Huddersfield Bus Station 226/227/228 = Leeds City Bus Station and Halifax Bus Station 253/624 = Bradford I/C and Wakefield Bus Station 254/255/256/259 = Dewsbury Bus Station and Bradford I/C 265/128/231 = Wakefield Bus Station and Midgley Black bull 268/269 = Bradford I/C and Dewsbury Bus Station 278/279 = Wakefield Bus Station and Halifax Bus Station 280/281/282/283/284 = Thornhill Edge and Fieldhead Estate 408/409/430 = Pontefract Bus Station and Doncaster, Church View
Cancellation
225/X25 = Leeds City Bus Station and Halifax Bus Station
FIRST WEST YORKSHIRE CHANGES.
To amend Timetables:
1/28/95 = Leeds Bus Station and Holt Park/Adel 9 = Pudsey Bus Station and Seacroft Bus Station 33/33A = Leeds City Bus Station and Otley Bus Station 56/64/65 = Whinmoor Shopping Centre and Moor Grange 72 = Bradford Interchange and Leeds City Bus Station 81/81A/82 = Holt Park and Pudsey Bus Station 92 = LEEDS INFIRMARY ST and BECKETT PARK CAMPUS 619 = Bradford I/C and Bingley Rail Station 620 = Bradford and Haworth Road 965 = Otley Bus Station and Otley Bus Station 966 = Guiseley and Westfield
To amend Route and Timetable
8 = Pudsey Bus Station and Crossgates Centre 16/16A = Leeds Bus Station/Seacroft Bus Station and Bradford 66/67/80 = Leeds, Eastgate and Tyersal 78 = Colton ,Sainsburys and Seacroft Bus Station 321/323/324 = HUDDERSFIELD and MELTHAM 548/549 = Halifax BS and Rastrick 570/571 = Bradford and Sowerby Bridge 747 = Bradford Interchange and Otley Bus Station 757 = Otley Bus Station and Leeds City Bus Station FCB = LEEDS RAILWAY STATION and LEEDS RAILWAY STATION
Cancellation
380/381 = Huddersfield BS and Brighouse BS
Registration Accepted:
629 = Bradford Royal Infirmary and Bradford Royal Infirmary
STAGECOACH YORKSHIRE
To amend Timetable.
83/84 = Denby Dale Railway Station and Huddersfield Bus Station 262 = Huddersfield and Leeds 46 = Barnsley, Harratts Garage and Pontefract Bus Station
T L C TRAVEL LTD
Route and Timetable.
940 = Otley Bus Station and Holt Park District Centre
Cancellation Accepted
942 = Wharfe Dale Hospital and Menston 941 = Wharfedale Hospital and Holtpark District Centre 943 = Menston and Wharfedale Hospital 946 = Wharfedale Hospital and Guiseley
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Post by rossbailey on Dec 7, 2007 13:37:05 GMT 1
Hi Tom
That timetable for the 757 Airlink service was a miss print on the website. If you look on the Metro printed timetables you'll notice the diffrence. Also it's only valid 27/11/07 to 27/01/2008 as this was an extension to the old tender.
January 27th is when the new 3 year tender starts and by the looks of things has been won by First In Leeds. after fearce ccompertition from the National Express group.
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Post by guyarab on Dec 7, 2007 13:47:18 GMT 1
When Arriva revamped routes a few years ago they got rid of the old 213/215 routes which went through Staincliffe Estate in Batley and revised the 281 group, which meant no bus went along Bradford Road. At the same time the 251/252 Dewsbury to Bradford service was killed off.
People from Thornhill working along Bradford Road and previously catching the 281 found they had no bus to take them to work, but Arriva's idea was that not enough passengers were carried along there - so it was just tough for the workers! I know someone who lives close to the old route, now finds it quicker to walk to Dewsbury than catch the 283 ehich tskes you through Staincliffe Esate and the hospital grounds. It also saves about £3.00 including the return and is now seen as good exercise!
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Post by jackh on Dec 7, 2007 13:47:56 GMT 1
Here are the West Yorkshire Bus service’s listed on VOSA website so far for some service changes to take place on the weekend of 27th & 28th January 2008. FIRST WEST YORKSHIRE CHANGES.Cancellation380/381 = Huddersfield BS and Brighouse BS That's interesting. The 380/381 services are subsidised by Metro so I wonder if First have lossed the contract or Metro are stopping it full stop?
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Post by angrycommuter on Dec 7, 2007 18:14:25 GMT 1
I reckon that the cancelled part will be the extension from Brighouse to Clifton Village as I read somewhere that the Arriva 225 is going to be cut from a 2 hourly Cleckheaton to Halifax to an hourly Cleckheaton to Brighouse meaning that the subsidised bit that First run to Clifton is no longer needed.
I don't know why a company don't run a direct Huddersfield to Cleckheaton service via Brighouse as there is only one bus an hour (220) and it takes a good 50 minutes (and is well used).
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Post by leedstom on Dec 7, 2007 20:16:40 GMT 1
Hi Tom That timetable for the 757 Airlink service was a miss print on the website. If you look on the Metro printed timetables you'll notice the diffrence. Also it's only valid 27/11/07 to 27/01/2008 as this was an extension to the old tender. January 27th is when the new 3 year tender starts and by the looks of things has been won by First In Leeds. after fearce ccompertition from the National Express group. Hi Ross, I thought it must be a miss print, thanks for clearing that up. Do you know what the route change is for this service in January? Kind Regards Tom
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Post by Craig on Dec 9, 2007 14:21:52 GMT 1
In answer to several recent posts:
The Hirst Wood terminus *is* to be moved back to Dallam Avenue apparantly due to safety issues around reversing (despite this having been done for years).
Arriva are withdrawing the 284 as they no longer receive private sector funding for it and it makes a loss. On the other hand Metro pays Arriva to run the 213. This is the simple reason why some routes get the chop and some don't.
If a service registration is cancelled this applies to the entire service, therefore the 380/381 won't only be cancelled between Brighouse-Clifton. If this were the case, it would be a "variation" to the registration. But it is odd to think, as jackh pointed out, that this long-standing service would suddenly be pulled unless a new registration is due to be made.
Finally, the 757 has been listed in error on First's website for some time now. Not only is the Pool timing point listed as Guiseley Rail Station as you mention, on the journeys in the opposite direction it is listed as Westfield instead!
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Post by gledhill56 on Dec 23, 2007 16:23:09 GMT 1
If a service registration is cancelled this applies to the entire service, therefore the 380/381 won't only be cancelled between Brighouse-Clifton. If this were the case, it would be a "variation" to the registration. But it is odd to think, as jackh pointed out, that this long-standing service would suddenly be pulled unless a new registration is due to be made. I've heard that the 549 that currently operates half hourly between Halifax and Nunnery Lane is to be extended to Huddersfield along the 381 route, with the 380 section between Brighouse and Rastrick covered by the 570 instead. Yet another route for people wanting to travel between Halifax and Huddersfield. How long before the 363 is withdrawn and replaced with an extended 576 lol.
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Post by jabbott1987 on Dec 23, 2007 18:45:59 GMT 1
I wonder which stand the 16 will run from to Bradford & Seacroft in Leeds Bus Station and it will probably go back on it's old route which i'm not sure which way it used to go?
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Post by westyorkshirebus on Dec 23, 2007 19:40:48 GMT 1
I wonder which stand the 16 will run from to Bradford & Seacroft in Leeds Bus Station and it will probably go back on it's old route which i'm not sure which way it used to go? The 16 isn't being extended to Bradford. The registration used to be grouped with the 15 or 14 and VOSA don't update the route descriptions, hence out of date info
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Post by jimbob90 on Dec 24, 2007 13:36:27 GMT 1
I heard that Arriva may be altering the 481 Wakefield - Leeds route again after having problems with vandalism near the John Charles Centre For Sport.
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Post by T101VWU on Dec 27, 2007 20:31:27 GMT 1
"To amend Timetables:
1/28/95 = Leeds Bus Station and Holt Park/Adel"
will leeds service number 1 be going back to the bus station? find it odd it says that sine this route is ru by artics.
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Post by Craig on Dec 28, 2007 19:18:30 GMT 1
As mentioned just a few posts back, the title of the registration e.g. 1/28/95 = Leeds Bus Station and Holt Park/Adel is how the service was registered originally. In this case, this registration for 1, 28, 95 must have been done years ago and since then the registration has been revised many times. Basically it saves cancelling and then putting on a new registration every time a service has a new route or service number.
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Post by Craig on Dec 28, 2007 21:27:36 GMT 1
To get back on topic, so far I think the 78 route change has gone unmentioned - this is to operate as a tendered service between St James Hospital and Colton (to replace links lost from the Amberley Travel then Black Prince 88 route). However, I don't know whether this will still then continue to Seacroft.
Also because of this change, from the end of January I assume the 8 will be cut back to either Cross Gates or Seacroft, as the Colton extension was only there for buses to link into the 78.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 3, 2008 18:30:55 GMT 1
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Post by rossbailey on Jan 3, 2008 23:42:47 GMT 1
Hi
So with the 16/16A's been extended from Farsley to Pudsey Bus Station via Stanningley & Richardshaw lane its the 81/81A (Pudsey – Horsforth) service thats been withdrawn in the Farsley area by First Leeds.
The Number 8 (Ring Road North) service will now serve Horsforth with a reroute via Horsforth Town Street and Broadgate lane and all buses will now terminate at Seacroft as well instead of Crossgates or Colton.
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Post by Craig on Jan 4, 2008 0:37:03 GMT 1
All in all no big surprises over the 8/81 then. Of note the 78 will continue from St James via Woodhouse Ridge and Hyde Park (presumably along 60 route) to City Centre. Also the 747 and 757 will cut out Dyneley Arms/Pool to cut straight over the Chevin.
The biggest problem is Arriva continuing their determined hacking away of bus services, this time the 219/229 being cut to every 20 mins Leeds to Birstall, the 219 then hourly only as far as Mirfield, and the 229 filling in the other 2 journeys per hour on to Hudds. Also the 284 being chopped as previously discussed, and other changes mainly due to tendered service cutbacks.
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Post by humberside on Jan 4, 2008 12:21:38 GMT 1
Is the only link between Horsforth and Holt Park on Sunday now?
Are the new Stotts services in Ho,mfirth (H8+H9 subsidised)?
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Post by angrycommuter on Jan 4, 2008 12:32:17 GMT 1
What a surprise, Arriva cutting services again! The 219 no longer serving Huddersfield, how long before it is cancelled altogether? The biggest surprise is the cutting of the X25 service. Before I bought a car I used this service from Cleckheaton and it was ALWAYS full, in fact a few times people had to be left behind as standees were not permitted on the M62. A few years back (when Cleckheaton bus station was been built) Dewsbuty depot used to operate it with double deck Optare's (same as 201/2/3) and these were always full. Although an "every 10 minute" service has been introduced on the Cleckheaton to Leeds route, the journey time is significantly longer than using the motorway (40+ mins compared to 25mins [even in heavy traffic]).
Arriva have just increased their fares again above inflation, and as a special treat are weilding the axe on many services. They really are a crappy company.
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Post by westyorkshirebus on Jan 4, 2008 23:27:55 GMT 1
Yes Arriva are continuing their reduction of the core service network
Note Arriva used to serve Halifax 5 times an hour, now it will be down to 2 hourly services
They also used to serve Huddersfield 10 times an hour, now it'll be down to 7
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Post by Craig on Jan 5, 2008 11:37:59 GMT 1
Is the only link between Horsforth and Holt Park on Sunday now? Are the new Stotts services in Ho,mfirth (H8+H9 subsidised)? The 31/32 provide a combined hourly off-peak service between Horsforth and Holt Park. Other than that the idea is for passengers to change between the 50A and 96 at Horsforth Rail Station. Yes, the H8/H9 are Metro tendered services to fill the gap left by the 313.
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Post by jackh on Jan 11, 2008 16:20:00 GMT 1
Hmmm, an interesting thought. As the 549 is being extended to Huddersfield to replace the withdrawn 380/1 services. That means there will be two Pink Lines in Huddersfield.
I wonder if the 549 will be incorporated into the Huddersfield overground network?
Also, what First could do is to make the 356/7 Crossland Road circulars into an overground route too. What are your thoughts?
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