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Post by stagecoachinyrks on Feb 15, 2008 11:17:55 GMT 1
Now that all of the ADL E300's have come for Doncaster and Shafton the Huddersfield ones will start to arrive.
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Post by stagecoachinyrks on Feb 18, 2008 22:19:59 GMT 1
Information from TSY
There are 2 of them now at Upper-Sheffield-Road Depot.
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Post by hfx on Feb 19, 2008 21:54:21 GMT 1
From info on the YTC/TSY - it's being said that these 6 MANs are going to sheffield. Hats off to the member who posted, that the order of new buses will be rounded down to zero!
However it also says Huddersfield is getting 6 more MAN E300s in June. I don't put up much hopes on that either- as it seems stagecoach isn't interested in Huddersfield. This depot lost most of the Volvo Olympians too - in exchange for Doubles that are not so good as them.
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Post by jackh on Feb 19, 2008 22:32:52 GMT 1
Good point, I don't know what their intention is with the Huddersfield operations as last year they pratically seperated it from the rest of the Yorkshire empire.
However they must be still interested as they will of never bidded for the college contracts around Kirklees.
Could Stagecoach sell this depot off to Arriva, would be something to keep an eye out for?
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Post by jackh on Feb 19, 2008 22:36:25 GMT 1
From info on the YTC/TSY - it's being said that these 6 MANs are going to sheffield. Hats off to the member who posted, that the order of new buses will be rounded down to zero! However it also says Huddersfield is getting 6 more MAN E300s in June. I don't put up much hopes on that either- as it seems stagecoach isn't interested in Huddersfield. This depot lost most of the Volvo Olympians too - in exchange for Doubles that are not so good as them. Well the email in question on YTC is just for now a wild rumour! |
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Post by hfx on Feb 19, 2008 22:44:17 GMT 1
Stagecoach should take over K-line, and then every almost every corridor outside the town will be covered to compete with First.
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Post by westyorkshirebus on Feb 20, 2008 0:09:13 GMT 1
the corridors are already covered - with K Line!
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Post by hfx on Feb 20, 2008 0:16:31 GMT 1
the corridors are already covered - with K Line! I mean't as in if they take over K line buses and their routes... they'll then have services such as 301/302A, 360, 366 and other places where stagecoach don't have the ball to comptete with First, outwith the Wakefield road Corridor. This will lead to price war between the two operators and make it more better for us as passengers! |
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Post by westyorkshirebus on Feb 20, 2008 18:29:37 GMT 1
or alternatively Stagecoach would withdraw all the routes leaving us with no competition
Stagecoach have hardly shown us that Huddersfield is a key part of their plans so far
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Post by Craig on Feb 20, 2008 21:01:24 GMT 1
This will lead to price war between the two operators and make it more better for us as passengers! Because history has always proved that bus competition between 2 giants of the industry has the end result of a good deal for the passenger.... Shall we just stick with the independent K Line, while such companies are still able to profitably exist, eh. |
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Post by hfx on Feb 21, 2008 19:26:30 GMT 1
or alternatively Stagecoach would withdraw all the routes leaving us with no competition Stagecoach have hardly shown us that Huddersfield is a key part of their plans so far But if they withdraw all services then what will cover the Rural South Kirklees & Hopton Area? |
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Post by riclam on Feb 21, 2008 21:40:08 GMT 1
Stagecoach yorkshire has lost the 231/2 and 262 in huddersfield!! Sundays only 2 buses required for its PVR!!
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Post by hfx on Feb 21, 2008 21:54:59 GMT 1
LOL not so surprising...
so is the take over of 231/232 full or just evening/sundays etc. I think Arriva has operated 231/232 in evenings and sundays before...
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Post by westyorkshirebus on Feb 21, 2008 22:13:38 GMT 1
just evenings and sundays (and early mornings)
Daytime services are operated commercially by Stagecoach
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Post by jackh on Feb 21, 2008 22:44:21 GMT 1
It must of cost Stagecoach a fair bit to have Waterloo open on Sundays just for five buses!
Who has won the contract to run them?
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Post by riclam on Feb 21, 2008 22:51:27 GMT 1
It must of cost Stagecoach a fair bit to have Waterloo open on Sundays just for five buses! Who has won the contract to run them? arriva yorkshire |
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Post by humberside on Feb 22, 2008 16:21:04 GMT 1
It must of cost Stagecoach a fair bit to have Waterloo open on Sundays just for five buses! AFAIK Ecclesfield is only open for a few buses worth of work on a Sunday |
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Post by westyorkshirebus on Feb 24, 2008 22:21:25 GMT 1
So so far since Stagecoach took over they've...
- Withdrawn services 235/236 through to Barnsley
- Revised the 237-240 services to Denby Dale/Scissett into the 80-84 with a lot of public concern
- Gave up Metro minibus contracts 354/355, 368, 374/375
- Withdrew service X62 to Leeds
- Are soon to lose evening and sunday 231/2 and 262 workings leaving a PVR of 2 buses at these times
- Are about to give up the peak park 61A service
I would like to put a bet on that they will sell the remaining services to First Huddersfield before the end of the year who would move all operations to Old Fieldhouse Lane
It'd be nice if K Line could buy the depot as theirs is at full capacity limiting any further expansion
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Post by Davidc on Feb 25, 2008 0:37:28 GMT 1
The current issue of BUSES mag has 6 E300s still comming to Huddersfield, 22558-22563. Could they be waiting till the 1st March before putting them into service? This would put them onto 08 plates.
Shafton are to have 22535-22544, while Doncaster are to have 22545-22557.
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Post by humberside on Feb 25, 2008 11:08:00 GMT 1
- Are about to give up the peak park 61A service Dont think its give up, more like loose the contract and being replaced by a more frequent Buxton-Glossop service. Nothing Stagecoach could do about this |
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Post by gledhill56 on Feb 25, 2008 20:33:17 GMT 1
Wouldn't be too sure on Stagecoach giving up in Huddersfield, they seem to have won the Summer Sundays service 900 between Huddersfield and Hebden Bridge. Nice extension to their network, even though its Summer Sundays only.
Monday to Saturday service (which K-Line will still retain) is a separate contract to the Sunday service apparently.
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Post by admin on Feb 26, 2008 0:09:47 GMT 1
These vehicles are now for Sheffield on service 120 and will follow a further 7 vehicles in May / June when the Huddersfield vehicles arrive along with more of these vehicles for USR (Barnsley) and Chesterfield.
Ta,
Sam
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Post by hfx on Feb 27, 2008 13:50:10 GMT 1
These vehicles are now for Sheffield on service 120 and will follow a further 7 vehicles in May / June when the Huddersfield vehicles arrive along with more of these vehicles for USR (Barnsley) and Chesterfield. Ta, Sam What Guarantee is there that the buses due in June for Huddersfield won't get diverted to upgrade another Sheffield route? I find it pretty daft: on the diversion of these 6 vehicles on the Route 120, (especially) knowing that more vehicles are still needed to entirely convert this route to MAN/E300 operation. Why convert something in Half when surely doing the Full conversion sounds a better practice and sense! (?) So far I agree with the sentiments of Westyorkshirebus. Pretty much possible. For this depot, I would rather prefer it was still under Tracky. We Got decent B6BLEs, 55' Optare solo's and a good standard of Northern counties - Volvo Olympians. With stagecoach, route cuts, frequency reduction, Volvo Olympians gone and replaced with 'Trash' like vehicles. |
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Post by Craig on Feb 28, 2008 0:27:37 GMT 1
In fairness to Stagecoach, they have lost the 231/232 and 262 contracts because Arriva outbid them. If Stagecoach were genuinely wanting to offload the Huddersfield arm of its operation, they wouldn't have bid... however, now that they *have* lost this contract, it could be a turning point for them to want to pack up and leave?
Interestingly not yet mentioned on this forum I don't think, the contracts for the 35, 46 and 59A Barnsley based routes have also been lost to Arriva as part of the same batch tendering, and these routes will now only be operated by Arriva within their respective West Yorkshire sections of route (i.e. 35 and 46 will run as a Ponte-South Elmsall/Hemsworth circular, 59A looks like it may be Wakefield-Royston only).
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Post by jackh on Feb 28, 2008 20:15:19 GMT 1
Yes the 59A will only be Wakefield to Royston. The rest of the route is run commercialy by Stagecoach. I presume it's the same for the 35 and 46.
I don't think it will do the services any justice as people can't do the full journey lengths. I hope they have devised the timetable so it is possible to connect.
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