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Post by SCH117X on Jul 29, 2023 10:08:35 GMT 1
B7RLE 1871 "Harrogate Heroes" has been / is tracking on the X98 - but then again that might just be wrongly set ticket machine. 2016 has not tracked since Friday 21st when it ceased tracking before the Deighton Bar terminus on the 2203 from Leeds. 2018 has not tracked since Wednesday when it completed its working on the 1813 from Leeds. Gemini 3613 along 1871 currently tracking on the X98 with 2015 and 2017 on the X99.
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Post by stephen01 on Jul 29, 2023 11:15:15 GMT 1
B7RLE 1871 "Harrogate Heroes" has been / is tracking on the X98 - but then again that might just be wrongly set ticket machine. 2016 has not tracked since Friday 21st when it ceased tracking before the Deighton Bar terminus on the 2203 from Leeds. 2018 has not tracked since Wednesday when it completed its working on the 1813 from Leeds. Gemini 3613 along 1871 currently tracking on the X98 with 2015 and 2017 on the X99. 3613 will be right as 2774 is on 59 in it's place.
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Post by leedsbusman on Jul 29, 2023 16:29:45 GMT 1
1867 has been painted into Transdev Go base livery and delivered to Harrogate. It won’t be gaining X98/9 livery. I understand X98/9 is moving to a mixed SD/DD Volvo allocation with the E400s moving to Burnley for capacity reasons on Mainline.
1722/3 are recent transfers to Keighley from Rochdale - two of several B7RLEs due there for B10 replacements following reduction in Primary school requirements.
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Post by stevieinselby on Jul 29, 2023 17:10:30 GMT 1
1867 has been painted into Transdev Go base livery and delivered to Harrogate. It won’t be gaining X98/9 livery. I understand X98/9 is moving to a mixed SD/DD Volvo allocation with the E400s moving to Burnley for capacity reasons on Mainline. This news should be making someone very happy, they will be delighted that Transdev is no longer wasting money running expensive over-capacity buses on these routes, and we'll be seeing the messages praising the decision incoming in 3, 2, 1....
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Post by MetrolineGA1511 on Jul 29, 2023 18:01:06 GMT 1
I hope these are the ex Witchway examples returning to Burnley rather than the ex City Zap examples moving there.
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Post by stephen01 on Jul 29, 2023 18:22:13 GMT 1
I hope these are the ex Witchway examples returning to Burnley rather than the ex City Zap examples moving there. It's the ex Cityzap e400s
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Post by SCH117X on Jul 29, 2023 21:56:53 GMT 1
I hope these are the ex Witchway examples returning to Burnley rather than the ex City Zap examples moving there. All of the ex-Witchway ones are still at Burnley. The X98/X99 has been using the Cityzap ones. Maintenance wise it must beneficial having them grouped togther at the same depot, excepting 2019 at Malton/York.
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Post by Username on Jul 29, 2023 22:14:28 GMT 1
I hope these are the ex Witchway examples returning to Burnley rather than the ex City Zap examples moving there. All of the ex-Witchway ones are still at Burnley. The X98/X99 has been using the Cityzap ones. Maintenance wise it must beneficial having them grouped togther at the same depot, excepting 2019 at Malton/York. They commonly use 2019 on the Coastliner Express which will end in September so it is possible that 2019 can move once the normal timetable is back.
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Post by delenn on Jul 29, 2023 23:11:12 GMT 1
They commonly use 2019 on the Coastliner Express which will end in September so it is possible that 2019 can move once the normal timetable is back. I know some at Malton who would be very happy to see the back of it.
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Post by westyorkshirebus on Jul 29, 2023 23:56:39 GMT 1
All of the ex-Witchway ones are still at Burnley. The X98/X99 has been using the Cityzap ones. Maintenance wise it must beneficial having them grouped togther at the same depot, excepting 2019 at Malton/York. They commonly use 2019 on the Coastliner Express which will end in September so it is possible that 2019 can move once the normal timetable is back. It’s been floating between York and Malton since the CityZap was axed
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Post by Username on Jul 30, 2023 0:39:53 GMT 1
They commonly use 2019 on the Coastliner Express which will end in September so it is possible that 2019 can move once the normal timetable is back. It’s been floating between York and Malton since the CityZap was axed Yeah it's a bit silly as they can use any other old Gemini for easier maintenance instead of having 2019 up at Malton or York.
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Post by leedsbusman on Jul 30, 2023 19:03:56 GMT 1
1722/3 are recent transfers to Keighley from Rochdale - two of several B7RLEs due there for B10 replacements following reduction in Primary school requirements. This seems to have trickled down to WYIS who are incorrectly reporting 1717 to 1721 as to follow! They are staying at Rochdale for school contracts.
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Post by Username on Jul 30, 2023 20:23:50 GMT 1
1722/3 are recent transfers to Keighley from Rochdale - two of several B7RLEs due there for B10 replacements following reduction in Primary school requirements. This seems to have trickled down to WYIS who are incorrectly reporting 1717 to 1721 as to follow! They are staying at Rochdale for school contracts. Are you sure a lad who works for Rochdale depot on the Transdev Enthusiasts said that 1717 to 1721 are due to be transferred up to Keighley to join 1722/3 and he is usually a reliable source. I am not going to name him just encase he doesn't want to be named on this forum but if you look in the Transdev Enthusiast Group on Facebook you can find him through the comments.
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Post by leedsbusman on Jul 30, 2023 20:27:21 GMT 1
This seems to have trickled down to WYIS who are incorrectly reporting 1717 to 1721 as to follow! They are staying at Rochdale for school contracts. Are you sure a lad who works for Rochdale depot on the Transdev Enthusiasts said that 1717 to 1721 are due to be transferred up to Keighley to join 1722/3 and he is usually a reliable source. I am not going to name him just encase he doesn't want to be named on this forum but if you look in the Transdev Enthusiast Group on Facebook you can find him through the comments. Yes I’m quite sure.
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Post by Username on Jul 30, 2023 20:37:54 GMT 1
Are you sure a lad who works for Rochdale depot on the Transdev Enthusiasts said that 1717 to 1721 are due to be transferred up to Keighley to join 1722/3 and he is usually a reliable source. I am not going to name him just encase he doesn't want to be named on this forum but if you look in the Transdev Enthusiast Group on Facebook you can find him through the comments. Yes I’m quite sure. Just double checking as I know drivers can be wrong sometimes and they're not gospel but I would assume that the rest would be due off to Keighley for schools also as they do have a number of B10BLEs that need replacing.
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Post by leedsbusman on Jul 30, 2023 21:02:00 GMT 1
Just double checking as I know drivers can be wrong sometimes and they're not gospel but I would assume that the rest would be due off to Keighley for schools also as they do have a number of B10BLEs that need replacing. Several are being replaced - just not by 1717-21 which are needed at Rochdale for their remaining TFGM schools.
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Post by Username on Jul 30, 2023 21:40:51 GMT 1
Just double checking as I know drivers can be wrong sometimes and they're not gospel but I would assume that the rest would be due off to Keighley for schools also as they do have a number of B10BLEs that need replacing. Several are being replaced - just not by 1717-21 which are needed at Rochdale for their remaining TFGM schools. What's going up to replace them.
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Post by leedsbusman on Jul 31, 2023 7:36:02 GMT 1
Several are being replaced - just not by 1717-21 which are needed at Rochdale for their remaining TFGM schools. What's going up to replace them. I believe some of the Irwell Line buses will transfer once replaced by 1761-6.
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Post by Username on Jul 31, 2023 9:45:41 GMT 1
What's going up to replace them. I believe some of the Irwell Line buses will transfer once replaced by 1761-6. Are 1761-1766 going to be Irwell Line branded or will Irwell Line become a dead brand.
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Post by lucyp on Jul 31, 2023 13:22:16 GMT 1
Insofar as the X98/99 are concerned, there is only one "Skyclass" out there today. The "Harrogate Heroes" bus was indeed out there last Friday, as I saw it myself. Today the single decker is 1854 and the two none-"Skyclass" double-deckers are 3613 and 2775. I have been on one today, and seen the other. I think 1854 is from the 7 route that has lots of spare buses now that it runs so infrequently. It's a good use of a redundant bus, and a single decker is more than sufficient. A mini-bus would be more than adequate.
So yes, I am pleased that they have taken my advice and put more appropriate buses on the routes. They still need to fix the "Welcome to Skyclass" announcement, when the bus isn't "Skyclass"; or do they mean that as the older buses have larger windows, you can see more of the sky? And the single decker does have roof vents!
They could also do with a clean internally and externally. I don't think the diffusers on the lights upstairs have ever been cleaned internally!
The "Skyclass" were too wide (wider than the Volvos) and even after the short period that they have been on the routes, you could see the scrapes and scratches. They lost several mirrors on the left side at the start of them being put on the routes, and on one of them, the gutter above the doors is crushed in.
It's good to be rid of the slow acceleration, probably caused by the weight of the needless "pimping up", and the unreliability. Whether they were inherently unreliable, or whether it was the effect of their previous route combined with the current route, or whether it was unfamiliarity with the brand at the depot, is unknown to me, but more often than not, there was always a "stand in" bus on the routes, with increasing regularity.
They were only put on the route because they were surplus to requirements, and they haven't been a success. If the routes are any busier, and they are not, outside of peak hours, and at the weekends, then it is much more to do with the £2 maximum single fare scheme, and the fact that they are no longer limited stop buses between Leeds and Oakwood Clock, than any "pimping up".
I assume that there will be an assortment of spare buses used on the routes, until the new battery buses arrive for the 36, assuming that is still happening, and then some of the current buses used on the 36 will be moved to the X98/99?
They still cannot run a bus company though. As I walked through Leeds, the 11:06 A1 service to the airport had been cancelled. Not a service to be relied upon if you have a flight to catch.
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Post by WYBS on Jul 31, 2023 17:43:20 GMT 1
Insofar as the X98/99 are concerned, there is only one "Skyclass" out there today. The "Harrogate Heroes" bus was indeed out there last Friday, as I saw it myself. Today the single decker is 1854 and the two none-"Skyclass" double-deckers are 3613 and 2775. I have been on one today, and seen the other. I think 1854 is from the 7 route that has lots of spare buses now that it runs so infrequently. It's a good use of a redundant bus, and a single decker is more than sufficient. A mini-bus would be more than adequate. So yes, I am pleased that they have taken my advice and put more appropriate buses on the routes. They still need to fix the "Welcome to Skyclass" announcement, when the bus isn't "Skyclass"; or do they mean that as the older buses have larger windows, you can see more of the sky? And the single decker does have roof vents! They could also do with a clean internally and externally. I don't think the diffusers on the lights upstairs have ever been cleaned internally! The "Skyclass" were too wide (wider than the Volvos) and even after the short period that they have been on the routes, you could see the scrapes and scratches. They lost several mirrors on the left side at the start of them being put on the routes, and on one of them, the gutter above the doors is crushed in. It's good to be rid of the slow acceleration, probably caused by the weight of the needless "pimping up", and the unreliability. Whether they were inherently unreliable, or whether it was the effect of their previous route combined with the current route, or whether it was unfamiliarity with the brand at the depot, is unknown to me, but more often than not, there was always a "stand in" bus on the routes, with increasing regularity. They were only put on the route because they were surplus to requirements, and they haven't been a success. If the routes are any busier, and they are not, outside of peak hours, and at the weekends, then it is much more to do with the £2 maximum single fare scheme, and the fact that they are no longer limited stop buses between Leeds and Oakwood Clock, than any "pimping up". I assume that there will be an assortment of spare buses used on the routes, until the new battery buses arrive for the 36, assuming that is still happening, and then some of the current buses used on the 36 will be moved to the X98/99? They still cannot run a bus company though. As I walked through Leeds, the 11:06 A1 service to the airport had been cancelled. Not a service to be relied upon if you have a flight to catch. Going by a comment I just read on Facebook, posted by an employee: the buses are being moved because of vandalism so ostensibly not because of over-capacity or vehicle size.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 31, 2023 17:56:08 GMT 1
Insofar as the X98/99 are concerned, there is only one "Skyclass" out there today. The "Harrogate Heroes" bus was indeed out there last Friday, as I saw it myself. Today the single decker is 1854 and the two none-"Skyclass" double-deckers are 3613 and 2775. I have been on one today, and seen the other. I think 1854 is from the 7 route that has lots of spare buses now that it runs so infrequently. It's a good use of a redundant bus, and a single decker is more than sufficient. A mini-bus would be more than adequate. So yes, I am pleased that they have taken my advice and put more appropriate buses on the routes. They still need to fix the "Welcome to Skyclass" announcement, when the bus isn't "Skyclass"; or do they mean that as the older buses have larger windows, you can see more of the sky? And the single decker does have roof vents! They could also do with a clean internally and externally. I don't think the diffusers on the lights upstairs have ever been cleaned internally! The "Skyclass" were too wide (wider than the Volvos) and even after the short period that they have been on the routes, you could see the scrapes and scratches. They lost several mirrors on the left side at the start of them being put on the routes, and on one of them, the gutter above the doors is crushed in. It's good to be rid of the slow acceleration, probably caused by the weight of the needless "pimping up", and the unreliability. Whether they were inherently unreliable, or whether it was the effect of their previous route combined with the current route, or whether it was unfamiliarity with the brand at the depot, is unknown to me, but more often than not, there was always a "stand in" bus on the routes, with increasing regularity. They were only put on the route because they were surplus to requirements, and they haven't been a success. If the routes are any busier, and they are not, outside of peak hours, and at the weekends, then it is much more to do with the £2 maximum single fare scheme, and the fact that they are no longer limited stop buses between Leeds and Oakwood Clock, than any "pimping up". I assume that there will be an assortment of spare buses used on the routes, until the new battery buses arrive for the 36, assuming that is still happening, and then some of the current buses used on the 36 will be moved to the X98/99? They still cannot run a bus company though. As I walked through Leeds, the 11:06 A1 service to the airport had been cancelled. Not a service to be relied upon if you have a flight to catch. The buses do get cleaned, the buses always get ruined by the public! The public don't look after the buses properly. Cant fault Transdev for that. Transdev are doing a fine job, ALL companies have the same issues! First, Arriva, Stagecoach all have the same issues as Transdev! We know you have a vendetta against Transdev. All companies are short of drivers, what do you expect them to do? There's more drivers leaving than there is coming in! It doesn't happen overnight to train drivers! How do you know the service wasn't cancelled until the last minute? Driver could have been really ill, the bus could have broken down, roadworks, passenger injured on their buses, bus vandalised by little scroats. All valid reasons why the 11:06 didn't turn up? The driver could be having a delayed break, caused by a delay in an earlier part of the shift as well. Another valid reason. Bus companies get fined, for services that don't run! You don't what goes on behind the scenes! There's always a perfectly valid reason for buses not running or cancelled. If you can do any better, why don't you come and work for Transdev, I am sure they will love you. Transdev have done a much better job, than some of the dodgy companies we've seen in West Yorkshire over the years.
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Post by lucyp on Jul 31, 2023 18:14:48 GMT 1
It's nothing to do with vandalism, because they haven't been vandalised at all, when you travel on them, that is obvious. That's just a rumour, or an excuse to move the buses, after the usual fanfare that they used to launch the service, only last October. Less than 10 months later, the buses are gone, as quietly as possible.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 31, 2023 18:17:49 GMT 1
It's nothing to do with vandalism, because they haven't been vandalised at all, when you travel on them, that is obvious. That's just a rumour, or an excuse to move the buses, after the usual fanfare that they used to launch the service, only last October. Less than 10 months later, the buses are gone, as quietly as possible. Theres always a perfect valid reasons why buses get moved around on routes! Im sure the guys at Transdev know what they are doing.
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Post by gledhill56 on Jul 31, 2023 18:46:03 GMT 1
It's nothing to do with vandalism, because they haven't been vandalised at all, when you travel on them, that is obvious. That's just a rumour, or an excuse to move the buses, after the usual fanfare that they used to launch the service, only last October. Less than 10 months later, the buses are gone, as quietly as possible. Really wish the admin of this forum would actually remove you altogether because all you do is cause tension and annoy everybody purely because of your clear vendetta against one operator in particular.
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