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Post by stephen01 on Jul 31, 2023 18:54:46 GMT 1
It's nothing to do with vandalism, because they haven't been vandalised at all, when you travel on them, that is obvious. That's just a rumour, or an excuse to move the buses, after the usual fanfare that they used to launch the service, only last October. Less than 10 months later, the buses are gone, as quietly as possible. there has been vandalism as the company posted it on social media and even YEP covered it.
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Post by mattb7tl on Jul 31, 2023 19:16:38 GMT 1
It's nothing to do with vandalism, because they haven't been vandalised at all, when you travel on them, that is obvious. That's just a rumour, or an excuse to move the buses, after the usual fanfare that they used to launch the service, only last October. Less than 10 months later, the buses are gone, as quietly as possible. The vandalism has been a real issue, as other users prooved. You haven't seen the vandalism because they take pride in their vehicles, young or old, and any kind of major damage is dealt with quickly. You gave them an accidental compliment
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Post by lucyp on Jul 31, 2023 19:17:46 GMT 1
Cancel culture at it's worst I see. It isn't a vendetta of any sort. It's simply my opinion, or me reporting the truth
Some people, mainly ones who have never used the service at all, have this ridiculous, rose tinted, deluded, opinion of the company, accept everything without question, and cannot accept that they are anything other than perfect, and when that bubble is questioned, they want to silence that course of action!
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Post by Deleted on Jul 31, 2023 19:23:26 GMT 1
No we recognise Transdev have their own issues going on. Transdev aren't perfect. ALL companies are in the same boat, its clear you wasn't like this against First was you? We praise companies on here when they do things right, and we do criticize companies on here when things go wrong!
We aren't bias, go and look at the A AND A Coach Travel route 30 thread.
We've praised Arriva on the latest 165 changes.
You've been proved to be lying on the forum before with regarding to tracking, its clear you have a vendetta, and you was quite harsh on Alex Hornby, do you know him personally?
You have nothing nice to say about them at all! Transdev are trying their best with their routes! These are tough times, driver shortages, bus issues! Happening to every single bus company! Are Transdev perfect? No they aren't! Transdev are suffering from the same issues as every other company! Could you imagine if Arriva had the X98/X99? They would have e200minis on them, knowing Arriva.
I just wish you lived in Dewsbury area a few years ago when SGI Around, you would be shocked then!
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Post by WYBS on Jul 31, 2023 19:49:44 GMT 1
Cancel culture at it's worst I see. It isn't a vendetta of any sort. It's simply my opinion, or me reporting the truth Some people, mainly ones who have never used the service at all, have this ridiculous, rose tinted, deluded, opinion of the company, accept everything without question, and cannot accept that they are anything other than perfect, and when that bubble is questioned, they want to silence that course of action! You sound like Dan Wooton on GB News.
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Post by Mr D Roebuck-Johnson on Jul 31, 2023 19:49:47 GMT 1
10 months and bust ! Just shows you what the previous management did so well 🫤
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Post by SCH117X on Jul 31, 2023 19:56:03 GMT 1
]The vandalism has been a real issue, as other users prooved. You haven't seen the vandalism because they take pride in their vehicles, young or old, and any kind of major damage is dealt with quickly. You gave them an accidental compliment And hence the need for stand in bus whilst the damage get fixed. Less of a problem with a B7RLE as a certain poster has a low view of those anyway "They would be a lovely replacement for the old bangers that travel to Pateley Bridge. Everyone would love those, except perhaps the Transdev shareholders.
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Post by Username on Jul 31, 2023 20:10:30 GMT 1
It's nothing to do with vandalism, because they haven't been vandalised at all, when you travel on them, that is obvious. That's just a rumour, or an excuse to move the buses, after the usual fanfare that they used to launch the service, only last October. Less than 10 months later, the buses are gone, as quietly as possible. That's really funny! I certainly remember you complaining about how the Sky Class buses would get vandalised by the school kids from a few months ago am I not wrong?
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Post by lucyp on Aug 1, 2023 12:25:31 GMT 1
And every time someone criticises me on here, Transdev prove my point for me! 5 cancellations on the X98 today. Mostly grouped together, including the 9:33, 11:33, 12:33 from Leeds to Wetherby, so basically no 98 service this morning.
And no, the buses did not get vandalised, probably because hardly any school-kids use them, because they are so unreliable, and because most kids come from the catchment areas where there are dedicated school buses. Only a few come from Harehills to Wetherby for school, so not enough peer pressure/pack mentality to vandalise the bus and the CCTV helped, and the fewer seats meant that they were not on their own, on the back seats, with no adults nearby.
And they don't fix anything quickly. Please don't flatter them inappropriately. There was a discussion on here months ago about the "wood" trim upstairs at the front. I said that it was just a paper sticker. It was obvious, because it had been torn off at the left side on one bus, during it's Zap days, and you can see the backing paper. As of last week, that still hadn't been fixed. Hardly any of the USB points worked upstairs on any bus. That was never fixed. On all of the buses, the central vent by the front windscreen upstairs was clogged with dirt and you could see the dirt/dust pattern on the glass too, where the fans blow the dirt. They were never cleaned in the 10 months the buses were on the 98/99.
And if it's all about vandalism, then why is one Sky Class still running? Why none? Or why not all of them in school holidays? Is there some bet-hedging today then? There is everything from one 58 plate single decker to one 70 plate Sky Class. And why not run the Sky Class on the X99. That is the too slow route for school kids.
The school day is 9 to 15:20 on Mondays and 8:40 to 15:20 Tuesdays to Thursdays and 8:40 to 14:20 on Fridays.
The X99 doesn't fit in with those times, it's the X98 that does.
It's an excuse. Are they not going to Burnley? Linton is the most affluent village in the whole of Yorkshire. Burnley is one of the most deprived areas of the UK. Was it the millionaires of Linton leaving their £ multi-million houses, and Ferraris behind, getting on the X99, in Chanel clothes, and then vandalising the buses?
They have found a better use for the buses, keeping them together as part of a larger fleet. Good. Just say so. They were pointless here. People travel between Harrogate and Leeds via Spofforth, Wetherby and the villages. That is one of the most affluent parts of Yorkshire, and the buses are old Connexions or old Transdev ones. The old Transdev buses that will now be used on the X98/99 will just fit in with that pattern. It's the right decision, but it hasn't been done because of vandalism, well not on the inside. Scrapes and dents on the outside yes.
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Post by SCH117X on Aug 1, 2023 21:51:27 GMT 1
The reason some X98s were cancelled today was one vehicle breaking down and a replacement having to be sourced - 2774 being pulled off the 36. The sort of hiccup that can affect any operator.
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Post by northerner on Aug 1, 2023 22:34:18 GMT 1
The reason some X98s were cancelled today was one vehicle breaking down and a replacement having to be sourced - 2774 being pulled off the 36. The sort of hiccup that can affect any operator. And was 2774 genuinely the first bus to become available, or were further cancellations suffered on the X98 because they wouldn't pull a 36 branded vehicle?
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Post by Mr D Roebuck-Johnson on Aug 1, 2023 22:44:42 GMT 1
I was talking to a flyer driver today and apparently there was a suggestion that flyer take on the x98/99 as a low cost unit. The idea was thrown out by flyer management as they don’t hardly have enough drivers as it is to operate A1-3
Sounds like x98/99 is now a burden which no one wants !
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Post by mattb7tl on Aug 1, 2023 23:28:01 GMT 1
I was talking to a flyer driver today and apparently there was a suggestion that flyer take on the x98/99 as a low cost unit. The idea was thrown out by flyer management as they don’t hardly have enough drivers as it is to operate A1-3 Sounds like x98/99 is now a burden which no one wants ! That may be the case but the attempt is what matters. What would bus usage without the X98/X99 look like in Wetherby? The 7 is a great route, even fun with the tight timetable, but ain't nobody gonna be using that to commute.
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Post by lucyp on Aug 2, 2023 18:11:42 GMT 1
Well they have found another Sky Class bus, as there are two out there today, so at least two of them haven't left Harrogate!
Without the X98/9, there would hardly be a bus service from Deighton Bar into Wetherby. That part of town in the least affluent part.
No service at all through Bardsey, Collingham, East Keswick, Linton, Rigton Grange, Scarcroft.
Nothing serving the Wetherby Road side of the Seacroft council estate.
No service along Wetherby Road between Easterly Road and Oakwood Clock.
The 7 is too infrequent and unless you are in Wetherby, then it is slower than the X98/9. Imagine walking all the way from East Keswick back to Wetherby to catch a bus? A lot of the route has no pavements or street lighting.
We all know why the service was taken on, and by whom, but it shouldn't be a burden. It just needs smaller buses for the narrow roads, which will remove the driver stress, and the - "you reverse, no you reverse", Mexican stand-offs at the pinch points of Linton Bridge and in East Keswick, and avoid the damage from trees. They have put old single deckers on the routes recently, so there will be less damage from over-hanging trees.
It needs to be a faster service. The timetable is basically the same outside of rush hours as during them, so there is always a wait outside Tesco on Roundhay Road to lose time, then at Redhall, then at East Keswick. It should also be a limited stop service once again. Just speed it up.
It also needs to be more reliable. There are too many cancellations.
If it was faster and more reliable, more people would use it.
Alternatively, there needs to be a fast shuttle service to Harewood, to catch the 36, although that leaves East Keswick to Oakwood Clock without a service.
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Post by SCH117X on Aug 2, 2023 18:41:25 GMT 1
The reason some X98s were cancelled today was one vehicle breaking down and a replacement having to be sourced - 2774 being pulled off the 36. The sort of hiccup that can affect any operator. And was 2774 genuinely the first bus to become available, or were further cancellations suffered on the X98 because they wouldn't pull a 36 branded vehicle? 2015 stopped working at 9.43, 2774 was taken off the 36 at midday in Harrogate. They do use 36 vehicles on other services - have been seen very occassionally on Harrogate locals and on school routes. Its not just is a vehicle available but is there a driver who knows the route. 2015 reappeared late afternoon today so three Enviros were in use - 2775 going off to work Route 1s
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Post by kendall17 on Aug 2, 2023 21:04:15 GMT 1
It's nothing to do with vandalism, because they haven't been vandalised at all, when you travel on them, that is obvious. That's just a rumour, or an excuse to move the buses, after the usual fanfare that they used to launch the service, only last October. Less than 10 months later, the buses are gone, as quietly as possible. Really wish the admin of this forum would actually remove you altogether because all you do is cause tension and annoy everybody purely because of your clear vendetta against one operator in particular. Lucyp creates debate. They have every right to be here. You dont have to agree with them. You dont have to read their posts. You dont have to reply to them. You therefore don't have to react to them.
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Post by kendall17 on Aug 2, 2023 21:09:18 GMT 1
And was 2774 genuinely the first bus to become available, or were further cancellations suffered on the X98 because they wouldn't pull a 36 branded vehicle? 2015 stopped working at 9.43, 2774 was taken off the 36 at midday in Harrogate. They do use 36 vehicles on other services - have been seen very occassionally on Harrogate locals and on school routes. Its not just is a vehicle available but is there a driver who knows the route. 2015 reappeared late afternoon today so three Enviros were in use - 2775 going off to work Route 1s Surely the drivers who were on the 2015's duties were booked on throughout the day. I'm sure there would've been other vehicles in the depot to stand in, the Scanias for example.
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Post by northerner on Aug 2, 2023 21:56:41 GMT 1
And was 2774 genuinely the first bus to become available, or were further cancellations suffered on the X98 because they wouldn't pull a 36 branded vehicle? 2015 stopped working at 9.43, 2774 was taken off the 36 at midday in Harrogate. They do use 36 vehicles on other services - have been seen very occassionally on Harrogate locals and on school routes. Its not just is a vehicle available but is there a driver who knows the route. 2015 reappeared late afternoon today so three Enviros were in use - 2775 going off to work Route 1s Thanks for the info. It seems Transdev were slow to allocate a replacement following the breakdown. If route knowledge is an issue then that's entirely within their control to resolve.
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Post by gledhill56 on Aug 2, 2023 21:58:49 GMT 1
Really wish the admin of this forum would actually remove you altogether because all you do is cause tension and annoy everybody purely because of your clear vendetta against one operator in particular. Lucyp creates debate. They have every right to be here. You dont have to agree with them. You dont have to read their posts. You dont have to reply to them. You therefore don't have to react to them. Sorry I didn’t realise you were an admin, if you aren’t an admin you have no right to tell me what to do. Every time lucyp posts it causes tension unless you are blind to it.
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Post by Username on Aug 2, 2023 22:08:36 GMT 1
Really wish the admin of this forum would actually remove you altogether because all you do is cause tension and annoy everybody purely because of your clear vendetta against one operator in particular. Lucyp creates debate. They have every right to be here. You dont have to agree with them. You dont have to read their posts. You dont have to reply to them. You therefore don't have to react to them. But notice how this is Fleet Changes not Transdev rant. She can go create a separate thread if she's desperate and I'll happily ignore it just not when she's throwing a tantrum on a page I'm interested in as I am looking for fleet news.
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Post by chas on Aug 2, 2023 22:39:27 GMT 1
Lucyp creates debate. They have every right to be here. You dont have to agree with them. You dont have to read their posts. You dont have to reply to them. You therefore don't have to react to them. Sorry I didn’t realise you were an admin, if you aren’t an admin you have no right to tell me what to do. Every time lucyp posts it causes tension unless you are blind to it. Personally, I enjoy LucyP’s posts - I decide wether or not I like/agree with them after reading. And I don’t think that Kendall17 is telling anyone what to do, merely pointing out the right of anyone to read/not read, agree/disagree etc. I hadn’t used the X98 until last week when I travelled from Leeds to Wetherby but was disappointed to travel on 2775 (?) rather than a 201x. Hopefully I will get another chance before they move away.
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Post by kendall17 on Aug 2, 2023 22:49:10 GMT 1
Lucyp creates debate. They have every right to be here. You dont have to agree with them. You dont have to read their posts. You dont have to reply to them. You therefore don't have to react to them. Sorry I didn’t realise you were an admin, if you aren’t an admin you have no right to tell me what to do. Every time lucyp posts it causes tension unless you are blind to it. It causes tension to those who are triggered by what they say. Like I say, if you don't like their posts don't read/reply/react to them. I'm not an admin, you're right, but I'm happy to stick up for those who have every right to be here.
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Post by WYBS on Aug 2, 2023 23:20:05 GMT 1
2015 stopped working at 9.43, 2774 was taken off the 36 at midday in Harrogate. They do use 36 vehicles on other services - have been seen very occassionally on Harrogate locals and on school routes. Its not just is a vehicle available but is there a driver who knows the route. 2015 reappeared late afternoon today so three Enviros were in use - 2775 going off to work Route 1s Surely the drivers who were on the 2015's duties were booked on throughout the day. I'm sure there would've been other vehicles in the depot to stand in, the Scanias for example. Do the Scanias ever go onto to normal service work? I've seen one tracking on the no.8 but not in real life.
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Post by kendall17 on Aug 3, 2023 6:42:37 GMT 1
Surely the drivers who were on the 2015's duties were booked on throughout the day. I'm sure there would've been other vehicles in the depot to stand in, the Scanias for example. Do the Scanias ever go onto to normal service work? I've seen one tracking on the no.8 but not in real life. I'm not sure, but surely they should be made available in case of shortages? Or is that too logical.
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Post by nathan58 on Aug 3, 2023 18:07:31 GMT 1
2 burnley wizz double deckers at waterloo team pennine anyone know why...couldn't get the fleet numbers.
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