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Post by selbybus on May 4, 2022 13:26:50 GMT 1
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Post by Penfold on May 4, 2022 15:19:12 GMT 1
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Post by arriva1606 on May 5, 2022 12:22:10 GMT 1
Arriva being cheap again eh and giving people only 4.1% more instead of the current inflation rate
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Post by sharksmith on May 5, 2022 16:26:08 GMT 1
To be honest they're in an impossible position really, particularly as fuel costs will have also gone through the roof recently.
If they give drivers the rise they no doubt deserve, then their only option would be to cut services or put up prices, neither of which is going to be popular and is likely to damage patronage.
I understood from previous conversations that Selby was on the edge in respect of profitability so the final option would be to close up shop, let someone else pick up anything which is profitable, and let North Yorkshire Council worry about the rest.....good luck with that.
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Post by WYBS on May 5, 2022 17:08:16 GMT 1
To be honest they're in an impossible position really, particularly as fuel costs will have also gone through the roof recently. If they give drivers the rise they no doubt deserve, then their only option would be to cut services or put up prices, neither of which is going to be popular and is likely to damage patronage. I understood from previous conversations that Selby was on the edge in respect of profitability so the final option would be to close up shop, let someone else pick up anything which is profitable, and let North Yorkshire Council worry about the rest.....good luck with that. Sorry for the speculation, but would Selby be a good fit for Transdev? |
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Post by dlspotter on May 5, 2022 17:28:27 GMT 1
To be honest they're in an impossible position really, particularly as fuel costs will have also gone through the roof recently. If they give drivers the rise they no doubt deserve, then their only option would be to cut services or put up prices, neither of which is going to be popular and is likely to damage patronage. I understood from previous conversations that Selby was on the edge in respect of profitability so the final option would be to close up shop, let someone else pick up anything which is profitable, and let North Yorkshire Council worry about the rest.....good luck with that. Sorry for the speculation, but would Selby be a good fit for Transdev? Without trying to go too off topic and solely to reply to this post, York & Country has previously operated the 42. Also, Y&C have quite a presence on the 42/415 corridor into York, so this would give them pretty much dominance on that stretch, as well as allow single ticket connections from ZAP and Coastliner to the Designer Outlet. However, these are the only thing I can see them taking advantage of, given their other routes go nowhere near any of Transdev's other areas, and everything other than the 415 (and some journeys on the 42 as I understand) is mostly if not all subsidised meaning it's not going to be an attractive buy for anyone. |
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Post by humberside on May 5, 2022 18:06:10 GMT 1
I didn't think the 401/405/408/409 were subsidised (apart from COVID related funding)?
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Post by selbybus on May 6, 2022 14:16:47 GMT 1
Very little is subsidised at Selby apart from schools/college and 493, 42, 408/9(only West Yorks bit by metro). 415/401/405/476/64 are all commercial routes.
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Post by hstjohnny on May 23, 2022 22:26:53 GMT 1
Confirmed Arriva Yorkshire staff in Unite Union will strike indefinitely from 6th June unless Arriva come to talks in the meantime with a good deal  |
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Post by rhythmb on May 28, 2022 11:25:19 GMT 1
Quick question, is the strike only on the 6th or is it continuously until a deal is struck? I'm hearing different things and Arriva haven't exactly been forthcoming with information.
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Post by pebbles on May 28, 2022 13:13:37 GMT 1
Quick question, is the strike only on the 6th or is it continuously until a deal is struck? I'm hearing different things and Arriva haven't exactly been forthcoming with information. Indefinitely from the 6th, meaning it'll start on the 6th and continue for however long until a deal has been reached. |
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Post by 576 Gemini 2 on May 29, 2022 6:54:02 GMT 1
When Go North West when on strike indefinitely, TfGM managed to get independent operators to step to cover services,would it be possible for metro to do the same here for the duration of the strike?
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Post by dennisthemenace504 on May 29, 2022 9:59:43 GMT 1
Quick question, is the strike only on the 6th or is it continuously until a deal is struck? I'm hearing different things and Arriva haven't exactly been forthcoming with information. Indefinitely from the 6th, meaning it'll start on the 6th and continue for however long until a deal has been reached. After the ballot result was known by the company, they arranged a meeting for this coming week with the Unite Union (Dewsbury also have RMT Union, whose members will not be striking), for further discussions. Why they couldn't arrange a meeting for the same week that the ballot closed, I'll never understand, but, these wage negotiations have been ongoing since November 2021, if they'd have been willing to get deal done early, and started January 1st 2022 they'd be laughing now, after energy bills went up in April. The company has been the one stalling the wage deal, but since May 7th, the first Saturday after April 30th, when the first day of reduced Saturday working started and it failed to work as they expected it to, they've had to increase Saturday pay to an enhanced rate to all drivers of one figure, to stop staff from Blobbing, everyone who is rota'd or working rest day get the enhanced rate, so, now, its in our favour that they put a fair and decent offer to us. As it currently stands, I believe, Arriva Yorkshire's top rate is lowest of the 3 big operators (Arriva/First/Transdev), and even for new starters, it takes newbies 3 full years before they get on top rate, when I started it was 18 months, no wonder, we're not getting many new staff through the door. |
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Post by Username on May 30, 2022 7:43:37 GMT 1
When Go North West when on strike indefinitely, TfGM managed to get independent operators to step to cover services,would it be possible for metro to do the same here for the duration of the strike? If that happens, I don't see many local companies running the services. Maybe TLC Travel for the small routes like 230/230A, CT Plus for 174 and 175 but most West Yorkshire Bus Companies don't have double deckers to run the busy 126/7, 163/6, 202/3, 254/5 etc. |
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Post by stephen01 on May 30, 2022 10:57:55 GMT 1
When Go North West when on strike indefinitely, TfGM managed to get independent operators to step to cover services,would it be possible for metro to do the same here for the duration of the strike? If that happens, I don't see many local companies running the services. Maybe TLC Travel for the small routes like 230/230A, CT Plus for 174 and 175 but most West Yorkshire Bus Companies don't have double deckers to run the busy 126/7, 163/6, 202/3, 254/5 etc. 213, 230/230A & 281 (possibly 283) can be covered by Station Coaches or Lyles as both are near enough to cover them. |
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Post by westyorkshirebus on May 30, 2022 11:00:51 GMT 1
You really think the 213 & 230 would be covered under any circumstance?
If it comes to it, you'd have a skeleton service on main corridors (mostly anything that was Sapphire or Max) and that would be it
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Post by stephen01 on May 30, 2022 11:11:58 GMT 1
You really think the 213 & 230 would be covered under any circumstance? If it comes to it, you'd have a skeleton service on main corridors (mostly anything that was Sapphire or Max) and that would be it yes given the fact that 213 & 230 are tendered routes |
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Post by deerfold on May 30, 2022 11:41:15 GMT 1
You really think the 213 & 230 would be covered under any circumstance? If it comes to it, you'd have a skeleton service on main corridors (mostly anything that was Sapphire or Max) and that would be it Wouldn't Arriva be trying to cover those with any staff who weren't striking. |
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Post by selbybus on Jun 1, 2022 14:11:53 GMT 1
Strike will go ahead from Monday 6th talks between union and Arriva have broken down.
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Post by rhythmb on Jun 1, 2022 14:19:45 GMT 1
Strike will go ahead from Monday 6th talks between union and Arriva have broken down. Any chance of further talks before or is that it? When are the next discussions happening? |
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Post by selbybus on Jun 1, 2022 14:43:21 GMT 1
Strike will go ahead from Monday 6th talks between union and Arriva have broken down. Any chance of further talks before or is that it? When are the next discussions happening? That’s it now strike will happen, with Bank Holiday no chance of any other talks before Monday. Not sure about anymore talks later that’s upto Arriva. |
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Post by selbybus on Jun 1, 2022 15:55:04 GMT 1
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Post by stephen01 on Jun 1, 2022 16:00:47 GMT 1
There's nothing been covered including schools
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Post by selbybus on Jun 1, 2022 16:06:59 GMT 1
There's nothing been covered including schools Important time for schools especially the Year 11s sitting the GCSES too! There simply isn’t the staff to run any buses as it’s not just drivers striking so are inspectors and engineers (so no one to sort bus issues). |
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Post by stephen01 on Jun 1, 2022 17:01:43 GMT 1
There's nothing been covered including schools Important time for schools especially the Year 11s sitting the GCSES too! They'll try and get some routes covered but i'll be surprised are as most other operators are either short-staffed or struggling for vehicles if MOTs are due erc. The last strike they'd been able to get some management on the road and draft support from other depots |
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