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Post by michael1971 on Jun 10, 2022 11:06:21 GMT 1
the old 556 and 562 routes Halifax to Oldham with the coaches Yorkshire rider use to use however in September at the vintage bus running day they are covering the 562 as far as Denshaw
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Post by Username on Jun 10, 2022 19:46:42 GMT 1
Miss double deckers going up to Booth/Midgley! The route is fairly busy nowadays, it would not hurt to put a double decker on it but as it seems Transdev are allergic to double deckers.
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Post by Father Dougal McGuire on Jun 10, 2022 20:18:13 GMT 1
Miss double deckers going up to Booth/Midgley! The route is fairly busy nowadays, it would not hurt to put a double decker on it but as it seems Transdev are allergic to double deckers. Not busy enough to justify deckers. Always see it with only a handful of people on and I pass it multiple times a day. Besides I've done reviews if passenger numbers of all TP services working in the commercial department at Transdev and none screamed out over crowding.
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Post by deerfold on Jun 10, 2022 21:59:01 GMT 1
Miss double deckers going up to Booth/Midgley! The route is fairly busy nowadays, it would not hurt to put a double decker on it but as it seems Transdev are allergic to double deckers. Transdev have plenty of double deckers. Past my house there's 3 Transdev routes. 1 is entirely double decker (66), one is about 50% double decker (62) and the other has had several double deckers on it in the last couple of weeks (M4).
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Post by mattb7tl on Jun 11, 2022 8:04:30 GMT 1
The route is fairly busy nowadays, it would not hurt to put a double decker on it but as it seems Transdev are allergic to double deckers. Transdev have plenty of double deckers. Past my house there's 3 Transdev routes. 1 is entirely double decker (66), one is about 50% double decker (62) and the other has had several double deckers on it in the last couple of weeks (M4). They have a weird way of choosing which routes receive single/double allocation. I've noticed that their premium and long routes are pretty much the only ones that receive a double deckers. Despite from the fact that they have some uncomfortably busy single decker routes. A good example would be the shuttle. It's shocking that it hasn't been upgraded.
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Post by deerfold on Jun 11, 2022 12:44:17 GMT 1
Transdev have plenty of double deckers. Past my house there's 3 Transdev routes. 1 is entirely double decker (66), one is about 50% double decker (62) and the other has had several double deckers on it in the last couple of weeks (M4). They have a weird way of choosing which routes receive single/double allocation. I've noticed that their premium and long routes are pretty much the only ones that receive a double deckers. Despite from the fact that they have some uncomfortably busy single decker routes. A good example would be the shuttle. It's shocking that it hasn't been upgraded. Their premium routes are often their busiest. The 66 has briefly had a 20 minute frequency as an experiment before deciding it wasn't quite with it but they needed double deckers at a half hourly frequency (and it fits better with the M4 between Crosshills and Keighley). The 66, 36, X43 are amongst the busiest routes I've caught with Transdev, though it can depend on the weather and what events are on. The 662 could do with either double deckers or going to a 7-8 minute frequency for most of the day.
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Post by Username on Jun 11, 2022 22:03:32 GMT 1
To avoid going off topic please use my new thread in the Transdev bus section.
Another cut route I missed was the 593 from Halifax to Oldtown it was a good run.
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Post by Deleted on May 10, 2023 12:28:29 GMT 1
X33, used to get it with relatives, going from Wakey to Sheffield. Handy little link, much preferred going on a Renown, compared to the pacers or a 153 at the time. Although I seem to remember Presidents, or Spectras turning up sometimes, could be wrong, I remember getting on a decker at one stage.
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Post by stephen01 on May 10, 2023 20:25:23 GMT 1
X33, used to get it with relatives, going from Wakey to Sheffield. Handy little link, much preferred going on a Renown, compared to the pacers or a 153 at the time. Although I seem to remember Presidents, or Spectras turning up sometimes, could be wrong, I remember getting on a decker at one stage. the low floor Spectras offically replaced the renowns 102-109 in the last couple of years of service with a couple of the Presidents supporting. It had been a useful service. People have even asked for it to be resurrected in the Mayor's Big Chat Survey but in the current climate it's not a feasible service as the timetable would have to be much worse than before it was withdrawn due to traffic delays. People have even asked for Keighley's 67 to be extended to Cleckheaton which again wouldn't work unless it ran none-stop between Bradford & Cleckheaton. The X33 could be a possibilty to resurrect between Bradford & Wakefield at least but it would be leaning more towards the original 70's routing.
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Post by Bradford Traveller on May 11, 2023 18:02:29 GMT 1
X33, used to get it with relatives, going from Wakey to Sheffield. Handy little link, much preferred going on a Renown, compared to the pacers or a 153 at the time. Although I seem to remember Presidents, or Spectras turning up sometimes, could be wrong, I remember getting on a decker at one stage. the low floor Spectras offically replaced the renowns 102-109 in the last couple of years of service with a couple of the Presidents supporting. It had been a useful service. People have even asked for it to be resurrected in the Mayor's Big Chat Survey but in the current climate it's not a feasible service as the timetable would have to be much worse than before it was withdrawn due to traffic delays. People have even asked for Keighley's 67 to be extended to Cleckheaton which again wouldn't work unless it ran none-stop between Bradford & Cleckheaton. The X33 could be a possibilty to resurrect between Bradford & Wakefield at least but it would be leaning more towards the original 70's routing. See also my post #73 above
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Post by Bradford Traveller on May 11, 2023 18:14:57 GMT 1
City Circle routes 601, 602 in Bradford and the Leeds outer ring 8, 9 were useful links to avoid going via the city centres. Increased traffic meant they couldn't keep to schedule, and ridership decreased, customers tended to use the higher frequency radial routes instead.
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Post by dennisthemenace504 on May 11, 2023 19:18:10 GMT 1
X33, used to get it with relatives, going from Wakey to Sheffield. Handy little link, much preferred going on a Renown, compared to the pacers or a 153 at the time. Although I seem to remember Presidents, or Spectras turning up sometimes, could be wrong, I remember getting on a decker at one stage. the low floor Spectras offically replaced the renowns 102-109 in the last couple of years of service with a couple of the Presidents supporting. It had been a useful service. People have even asked for it to be resurrected in the Mayor's Big Chat Survey but in the current climate it's not a feasible service as the timetable would have to be much worse than before it was withdrawn due to traffic delays. People have even asked for Keighley's 67 to be extended to Cleckheaton which again wouldn't work unless it ran none-stop between Bradford & Cleckheaton. The X33 could be a possibilty to resurrect between Bradford & Wakefield at least but it would be leaning more towards the original 70's routing. Presidents 687 & 688 (X687/8 YUG) were usually the ones used every Saturday on X33 1005 from Bradford as they were unbranded for 268, their usual route during the week, before the Spectras (718 - 23) arrived in August 2002. Arriva was losing approximately £1000 a week when it was hourly service with 5 vehicles in the diagram, with 30 minutes recovery time at Bradford, so, they dropped it to a 90 minute service by taking 2 out, and it was still losing money. Metro put it out for retendering, and nobody, including Arriva, put bid in to keep it running. There was talk last year of bringing it back as a Saturday Christmas Shopper to Meadowhall, Bradford - Cleckheaton - Heckmondwike - Dewsbury - Wakefield - Meadowhall, but never happened.
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Post by stephen01 on May 11, 2023 19:46:09 GMT 1
the low floor Spectras offically replaced the renowns 102-109 in the last couple of years of service with a couple of the Presidents supporting. It had been a useful service. People have even asked for it to be resurrected in the Mayor's Big Chat Survey but in the current climate it's not a feasible service as the timetable would have to be much worse than before it was withdrawn due to traffic delays. People have even asked for Keighley's 67 to be extended to Cleckheaton which again wouldn't work unless it ran none-stop between Bradford & Cleckheaton. The X33 could be a possibilty to resurrect between Bradford & Wakefield at least but it would be leaning more towards the original 70's routing. Presidents 687 & 688 (X687/8 YUG) were usually the ones used every Saturday on X33 1005 from Bradford as they were unbranded for 268, their usual route during the week, before the Spectras (718 - 23) arrived in August 2002. Arriva was losing approximately £1000 a week when it was hourly service with 5 vehicles in the diagram, with 30 minutes recovery time at Bradford, so, they dropped it to a 90 minute service by taking 2 out, and it was still losing money. Metro put it out for retendering, and nobody, including Arriva, put bid in to keep it running. There was talk last year of bringing it back as a Saturday Christmas Shopper to Meadowhall, Bradford - Cleckheaton - Heckmondwike - Dewsbury - Wakefield - Meadowhall, but never happened. Even as a Christmas Shopper there's no way it could run with a workable timetable especially on the last route as there'd be way too many delays.
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Post by pricel on Jan 28, 2024 13:57:08 GMT 1
The route is fairly busy nowadays, it would not hurt to put a double decker on it but as it seems Transdev are allergic to double deckers. Not busy enough to justify deckers. Always see it with only a handful of people on and I pass it multiple times a day. Besides I've done reviews if passenger numbers of all TP services working in the commercial department at Transdev and none screamed out over crowding. I know this if from over a year ago, but I do see overcrowding regularly on the 360, D1, 20, 21, 502 and 587. There is no way to resolve the 587 issue though.
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Post by deerfold on Jan 28, 2024 14:18:29 GMT 1
Not busy enough to justify deckers. Always see it with only a handful of people on and I pass it multiple times a day. Besides I've done reviews if passenger numbers of all TP services working in the commercial department at Transdev and none screamed out over crowding. I know this if from over a year ago, but I do see overcrowding regularly on the 360, D1, 20, 21, 502 and 587. There is no way to resolve the 587 issue though. Other than an increase in frequency at certain times or running a duplicate.
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Post by peteleeds on Jan 29, 2024 21:41:09 GMT 1
City Circle routes 601, 602 in Bradford and the Leeds outer ring 8, 9 were useful links to avoid going via the city centres. Increased traffic meant they couldn't keep to schedule, and ridership decreased, customers tended to use the higher frequency radial routes instead. Now squarepeg are operating all the services on the leeds outer ring 9/10 i think the plan is to run them eventually as full circulars again. They are promoting interchange at Horsforth and white rose and looking at bus times some services are already running as one circuit changing numbers at white rose
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Post by pricel on Jan 30, 2024 16:57:12 GMT 1
I know this if from over a year ago, but I do see overcrowding regularly on the 360, D1, 20, 21, 502 and 587. There is no way to resolve the 587 issue though. Other than an increase in frequency at certain times or running a duplicate. I think the 587 issue is more because 586 has been reduced. A lot of people are using 562 now also
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Post by Deleted on Jan 30, 2024 17:10:49 GMT 1
Other than an increase in frequency at certain times or running a duplicate. I think the 587 issue is more because 586 has been reduced. A lot of people are using 562 now also Not sure if it's connected but i've noticed longer waits when trying to get taxis to/from the Sowerby Bridge area as well over the past couple of months as well.
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Post by stantheman on Feb 5, 2024 8:56:30 GMT 1
I miss the X41 Wakefield to Leeds!
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Post by BusNut on Feb 5, 2024 13:25:28 GMT 1
X33 Sheffield to Bradford. Think it was finally withdrawn in January 2007. Such a shame really as the cross boundary services between South and West Yorkshire are now almost none existent. To think back just 15-20yrs ago you could buy a MetroRover to cover all local buses in South & West Yorkshire for the month too. Shame SYMCA and WYCA can't work more closely together.
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Post by deerfold on Feb 5, 2024 13:30:37 GMT 1
X33 Sheffield to Bradford. Think it was finally withdrawn in January 2007. Such a shame really as the cross boundary services between South and West Yorkshire are now almost none existent. To think back just 15-20yrs ago you could buy a MetroRover to cover all local buses in South & West Yorkshire for the month too. Shame SYMCA and WYCA can't work more closely together. That'd be the MetroMaster.
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Post by steve440 on Feb 5, 2024 16:08:52 GMT 1
X33 Sheffield to Bradford. Think it was finally withdrawn in January 2007. Such a shame really as the cross boundary services between South and West Yorkshire are now almost none existent. To think back just 15-20yrs ago you could buy a MetroRover to cover all local buses in South & West Yorkshire for the month too. Shame SYMCA and WYCA can't work more closely together. I think the old X68 from Huddersfield to Sheffield via Penistone would work now given plenty of publicity. It would create many direct links not now possible. There again it would mean wyca and symca working together.
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Post by moorside on Feb 5, 2024 16:39:02 GMT 1
X33 Sheffield to Bradford. Think it was finally withdrawn in January 2007. Such a shame really as the cross boundary services between South and West Yorkshire are now almost none existent. To think back just 15-20yrs ago you could buy a MetroRover to cover all local buses in South & West Yorkshire for the month too. Shame SYMCA and WYCA can't work more closely together. I think the old X68 from Huddersfield to Sheffield via Penistone would work now given plenty of publicity. It would create many direct links not now possible. There again it would mean wyca and symca working together. I made myself late for school in order to travel on the first X68 departure from Halifax in, I think, September 1968. I only went from the Bus Station to the first stop near the General Hospital! Geoffrey Hilditch, then manager of Halifax buses, came to see the bus leave and said he hoped it would be the first of other similar interurban routes. At the time, I had hopes that Halifax-Keighley might get linked up with the Keighley-Ilkley route, but in the event no more similar routes to the X68 ever materialised. For a brief spell there was the X34 between Halifax and Sheffield too, via the M1, aa part of the White Rose expresses. Halifax to Sheffield would be a very awkward journey by bus nowadays.
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Post by 77syk7 on Feb 5, 2024 17:42:42 GMT 1
I also remember the day well - a joint operation with 4 operators - Halifax, Huddersfield & Sheffield Corporations plus Yorkshire Traction. It lasted a few years, but in the end it just came down to YTC.
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Post by 576 Gemini 2 on Feb 5, 2024 19:21:07 GMT 1
503 extension from Halifax to Bradford via Ovenden,Illingworth & Thornton
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