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Post by dennisthemenace504 on Apr 25, 2022 5:39:12 GMT 1
X32: Leeds - M1 - Barnsley- Meadowhall - Sheffield X33: Bradford - M606 - Cleckheaton - Heckmondwike - Dewsbury - Wakefield - M1 - Barnsley - Meadowhall- Sheffield Oh thanks for clarifying their routings. I just doubt it saved much time using the motorway between Bradford and Cleckheaton. Going via M606 between Bradford & Cleckheaton saved at least 10 minutes off alternative routes which helped to keep journey length to about 2 hours. When 606 got shut for incidents, going via current 268 route from/to Mayo Avenue, would add around 15/20 minutes and roughly same time if went up Tong Street, then heading to Birkenshaw to then come back down towards Cleckheaton. When X33 used to be hourly, and going to Bradford it changed drivers at Heckmondwike, on arrival in Bradford it would park up for half hour, thereby recovering any lost time so that it departed on time from Bradford. And as mentioned by the original poster, it was M1 after Barnsley, between Wakefield and Barnsley it was A61 passing Newmillerdam and Staincross, then Dodworth on way to M1
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Post by sharksmith on Apr 25, 2022 8:06:16 GMT 1
Thinking back now, the X33 seems to have been particularly pointless. Maybe the last time Bradford was seen as an important city from a public transport perspective to have this link.
I lived closer to Bradford than Leeds but always used the X32 rather than the X33. I can see the sense in running Sheffield/Barnsley to Wakefield, or maybe even Dewsbury, but surely no-one was using the service full route from Bradford to Sheffield.
I do miss the X32 though, it always seemed well loaded too, what actually killed it off, was it companies no longer being able to cooperate post deregulation?
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Post by mk2mcw on Apr 25, 2022 10:38:06 GMT 1
Thinking back now, the X33 seems to have been particularly pointless. Maybe the last time Bradford was seen as an important city from a public transport perspective to have this link. I lived closer to Bradford than Leeds but always used the X32 rather than the X33. I can see the sense in running Sheffield/Barnsley to Wakefield, or maybe even Dewsbury, but surely no-one was using the service full route from Bradford to Sheffield. I do miss the X32 though, it always seemed well loaded too, what actually killed it off, was it companies no longer being able to cooperate post deregulation? The X32 became joint operated by first Leeds and traction then tracky took it back and renumbered it X30 and it took a longer route to Sheffield this didn’t work out and was cut back to Leeds Barnsley only it then got scrapped bar a peak express journeys which tates operated it then got axed altogether around this time the X33 was reduced to every 90 mins
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Post by mk2mcw on Apr 25, 2022 10:39:29 GMT 1
Thinking back now, the X33 seems to have been particularly pointless. Maybe the last time Bradford was seen as an important city from a public transport perspective to have this link. I lived closer to Bradford than Leeds but always used the X32 rather than the X33. I can see the sense in running Sheffield/Barnsley to Wakefield, or maybe even Dewsbury, but surely no-one was using the service full route from Bradford to Sheffield. I do miss the X32 though, it always seemed well loaded too, what actually killed it off, was it companies no longer being able to cooperate post deregulation? The X32 became joint operated by first Leeds and traction then tracky took it back and renumbered it X30 and it took a longer route to Sheffield this didn’t work out and was cut back to Leeds Barnsley only it then got scrapped bar a peak express journeys which tates operated it then got axed altogether around this time the X33 was reduced to every 90 mins It wasn’t helped by the new express Sheffield leeds train which started around this time National express started the 070 to replace the Leeds Sheffield section of the X32
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Post by mk2mcw on Apr 25, 2022 10:43:36 GMT 1
M62 Halifax White rose Leeds fastest way to Leeds by bus from Halifax This was a great route loved the climb up lower edge
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Post by mk2mcw on Apr 25, 2022 10:44:49 GMT 1
Oh thanks for clarifying their routings. I just doubt it saved much time using the motorway between Bradford and Cleckheaton. Going via M606 between Bradford & Cleckheaton saved at least 10 minutes off alternative routes which helped to keep journey length to about 2 hours. When 606 got shut for incidents, going via current 268 route from/to Mayo Avenue, would add around 15/20 minutes and roughly same time if went up Tong Street, then heading to Birkenshaw to then come back down towards Cleckheaton. When X33 used to be hourly, and going to Bradford it changed drivers at Heckmondwike, on arrival in Bradford it would park up for half hour, thereby recovering any lost time so that it departed on time from Bradford. And as mentioned by the original poster, it was M1 after Barnsley, between Wakefield and Barnsley it was A61 passing Newmillerdam and Staincross, then Dodworth on way to M1 It only became a half hour turn around at Bradford when the journey time was extended to 2 and a half hours it was only 6 mins at Bradford and 9 mins at Sheffield
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Post by mk2mcw on Apr 25, 2022 10:47:02 GMT 1
More recent routes from the 90s beyond The old 15 Bradford - Leeds - Seacroft. Must say was useful for Kirkstall road corridor to Gipton We could commonly agree that a 508 via Stanningley road was always a miss . If anything I would have attempted to improve running time from Dawson Corner via Stanningley by pass and called it X8. Limited stop conditions serves stops like X6. To make it attractive to passengers. the 15 was extended was axed with the increased frequency of the 72 the 508 was rerouted to accomodate the loss of the 15 between Leeds and Dawsons corner
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Post by mk2mcw on Apr 25, 2022 10:47:12 GMT 1
More recent routes from the 90s beyond The old 15 Bradford - Leeds - Seacroft. Must say was useful for Kirkstall road corridor to Gipton We could commonly agree that a 508 via Stanningley road was always a miss . If anything I would have attempted to improve running time from Dawson Corner via Stanningley by pass and called it X8. Limited stop conditions serves stops like X6. To make it attractive to passengers. the 15 was axed with the increased frequency of the 72 the 508 was rerouted to accomodate the loss of the 15 between Leeds and Dawsons corner
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Post by mk2mcw on Apr 25, 2022 10:49:32 GMT 1
I miss the summer services 200 Leeds morecambe and 841 keighley scarborough keighley operated these with ex coastliner Olympians and I think it’s the only coastal route the coastliner liveried Bristol vr was used on
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Post by mk2mcw on Apr 25, 2022 10:50:51 GMT 1
I also remember the 85 Leeds scholes and the 65 Leeds scholes they interlinked at scholes their timetables were the same every day
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Post by deerfold on Apr 25, 2022 11:45:47 GMT 1
The X32 became joint operated by first Leeds and traction then tracky took it back and renumbered it X30 and it took a longer route to Sheffield this didn’t work out and was cut back to Leeds Barnsley only it then got scrapped bar a peak express journeys which tates operated it then got axed altogether around this time the X33 was reduced to every 90 mins It wasn’t helped by the new express Sheffield leeds train which started around this time National express started the 070 to replace the Leeds Sheffield section of the X32 I'm fairly sure the 070 was one of the causes of the demise of the X32. National Express had quite a lot of routes that did (Bradford)-Leeds - Sheffield and decided that whenever there was a gap of more than half an hour in these services (during most of the day) they'd pop in an 070 that just did Leeds-Meadowhall-Sheffield, much faster than the X32. They promoted multi-trip tickets and aimed it at commuters and daytrippers. There were also much late services in both directions than on the X32, on services which were going much further.
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Post by sharksmith on Apr 25, 2022 11:52:46 GMT 1
Think the main attraction of the X32 for me as a teenager was that you could travel the full route on a Day Rover, then pay 6p, not a typo it was 6p, to travel from Sheffield to Doncaster and return to Leeds on South Yorkshire's 410 service which was also valid on the Day Rover too.
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Post by deerfold on Apr 25, 2022 12:12:35 GMT 1
Think the main attraction of the X32 for me as a teenager was that you could travel the full route on a Day Rover, then pay 6p, not a typo it was 6p, to travel from Sheffield to Doncaster and return to Leeds on South Yorkshire's 410 service which was also valid on the Day Rover too. I don't remember being able to use a Dayrover on the whole route. When was that? I did go to Uni with someone from Sheffield who used to pay 2p each way on his bus to school.
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Post by sharksmith on Apr 25, 2022 12:48:36 GMT 1
That would have been the early to late eighties, there were a whole host of cross border routes valid on the Day Rover at that time.
I definitely would have used the X32 to go to the Herries Rd bus depot open day which was in late summer 1984.
As well as the Leeds-Sheffield-Doncaster-Leeds triangle which I did on 3 on 4 occasions, I also travelled on from Sheffield to Chesterfield a couple of times on Chesterfield Corporation buses too.
I would certainly still use the X32 if it was still running but to be honest there's probably not as much in the centre of Sheffield as there used to be.
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Post by mk2mcw on Apr 25, 2022 12:56:55 GMT 1
On the X32 you could use the dayrover until haigh Huddersfield road
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Post by deerfold on Apr 25, 2022 13:11:56 GMT 1
That would have been the early to late eighties, there were a whole host of cross border routes valid on the Day Rover at that time. I definitely would have used the X32 to go to the Herries Rd bus depot open day which was in late summer 1984. As well as the Leeds-Sheffield-Doncaster-Leeds triangle which I did on 3 on 4 occasions, I also travelled on from Sheffield to Chesterfield a couple of times on Chesterfield Corporation buses too. Ah. I didn't start using Dayrovers until around 1988 when they halved in price. I wonder if their validity stopped around the same time. I didn't get to the southern regions of West Yorkshire until the early 90s.
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Post by sharksmith on Apr 25, 2022 13:16:57 GMT 1
That would have been the early to late eighties, there were a whole host of cross border routes valid on the Day Rover at that time. I definitely would have used the X32 to go to the Herries Rd bus depot open day which was in late summer 1984. As well as the Leeds-Sheffield-Doncaster-Leeds triangle which I did on 3 on 4 occasions, I also travelled on from Sheffield to Chesterfield a couple of times on Chesterfield Corporation buses too. Ah. I didn't start using Dayrovers until around 1988 when they halved in price. I wonder if their validity stopped it if I didn't get to the southern regions of West Yorkshire until the early 90s. Could very well be that it stopped at deregulation or shortly after, it's all a long time ago now.
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Post by sharksmith on Apr 25, 2022 13:21:23 GMT 1
On the X32 you could use the dayrover until haigh Huddersfield road The X32 I knew would have been on the M1 at that point, I wouldn't have fancied jumping off there!
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Post by Anthony on Apr 25, 2022 19:01:12 GMT 1
Think the main attraction of the X32 for me as a teenager was that you could travel the full route on a Day Rover, then pay 6p, not a typo it was 6p, to travel from Sheffield to Doncaster and return to Leeds on South Yorkshire's 410 service which was also valid on the Day Rover too. When I was a teenager in the 80s, I remember going to Barnsley or Sheffield on the X33 and paying 10p from the border, as that was the flat child's fare in South Yorkshire at the time. Was 15p in West Yorks. Once I was 16 but stayed on at school, so had A Young Person metro permit instead of a child one, it was a bit of a lottery if the driver would accept that to get the SY child fare. Always felt strange going out of West Yorks, seemed to know most of the county like the back of my hand, i went on so many day rovers over the years!
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Post by Steve Macz403 on Apr 25, 2022 19:11:23 GMT 1
I did a few journeys on the X32 as a kid - on on the Volvo Citybuses - East Lancs. Leeds to Barnsley return. I also did Leeds to Meadowhall on the more modern Volvo B7TL East Lancs Vykings. Both were decent journeys
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Post by mk2mcw on Apr 25, 2022 19:38:26 GMT 1
I did a few journeys on the X32 as a kid - on on the Volvo Citybuses - East Lancs. Leeds to Barnsley return. I also did Leeds to Meadowhall on the more modern Volvo B7TL East Lancs Vykings. Both were decent journeys I can remember the coach seated Mcws being used on the X32 and fastline dominators! I even remember Sheffield united tours on it!
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Post by dlspotter on Apr 25, 2022 19:45:18 GMT 1
Talking of an X32, despite it being used very little, the presence of a bus that would get me from my area of Normanton to Wakefield in just 15 minutes thanks to the Bypass stop, as well as providing an additional bus at a decent time (:30) compared to the 187 (ex Wakefield at :10) and 147 (ex Wakefield at :50/:55); usually on a double as well was always a treat.
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Post by Bradford Traveller on Apr 26, 2022 15:38:12 GMT 1
X32: Leeds - M1 - Barnsley- Meadowhall - Sheffield X33: Bradford - M606 - Cleckheaton - Heckmondwike - Dewsbury - Wakefield - M1 - Barnsley - Meadowhall- Sheffield Oh thanks for clarifying their routings. I just doubt it saved much time using the motorway between Bradford and Cleckheaton. Originally from Bradford was X33 via (Batley) Dewsbury and an X34 via (Morley) Wakefield, but the ptb thought of combining them and rerouted through the Spen Valley as an "X268". The "new" X33 via M606 originally had a minimum timing from Bradford to Cleckheaton of just 11 minutes (!), but increasing congestion along the route meant it soon became 22 minutes, and Bradford–Wakefield not any quicker than the direct route via Morley.
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Post by WYBS on Jun 9, 2022 22:37:45 GMT 1
I was just thinking today how boring the bus scene in West Yorkshire has become of late.
I miss even the things most of us took for granted at the time as being 'normal'. Yorkshire Tiger running around Leeds/ Headingley. Scanias showing up on the 757. Bendies on the 72 and 1. B10s on the 770/ 760. I could go on all day. Having a variety of buses in Leeds city centre that you actually wanted to go for a bash on! Now I go to Leeds and sigh at the thought of my next ride being another Streetdeck.
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Post by stantheman on Jun 9, 2022 23:07:05 GMT 1
Miss double deckers going up to Booth/Midgley!
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