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Post by westyorkshirebus on Dec 27, 2015 9:15:46 GMT 1
This has been touched on in the Boxing Day thread, but it is likely to continue across the next few days.
There has been lots of flooding across the area, not just in the usual spots but in places it never usually floods, such as in Sowerby Bridge and Leeds.
The Yorkshire Tiger depot in Leeds has been flooded, and all services are currently suspended including Flying Tiger services. From photos on Twitter the flood water doesn't seem high enough to have damaged the vehicles though.
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Post by basher37 on Dec 27, 2015 9:29:13 GMT 1
This has been touched on in the Boxing Day thread, but it is likely to continue across the next few days. There has been lots of flooding across the area, not just in the usual spots but in places it never usually floods, such as in Sowerby Bridge and Leeds. The Yorkshire Tiger depot in Leeds has been flooded, and all services are currently suspended including Flying Tiger services. From photos on Twitter the flood water doesn't seem high enough to have damaged the vehicles though. Even if the tiger depot in Leeds wasn't flood they wouldn't be going anywhere since Kirkstall road is flooded all the way from Kirkstall into town..
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Post by Bradford Traveller on Dec 27, 2015 11:08:50 GMT 1
Presumably the Bradford - Airport services are also suspended.
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Post by Bradford Traveller on Dec 27, 2015 11:12:07 GMT 1
579 running as far as Tuel Lane (from WY Metro) also no service Halifax - Todmorden on 590 592.
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Post by Bradford Traveller on Dec 27, 2015 11:18:49 GMT 1
Most services ARE operating today but many will divert from usual routes. (including Kly. 66 500 662 760)
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Post by Bradford Traveller on Dec 27, 2015 11:38:11 GMT 1
Bus 91 will not operate the Bramley - Headingley section so no through service
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Post by rwilkes on Dec 27, 2015 18:55:21 GMT 1
On the TV news a vehicle in Hebden Br was wash into =Calder It appeared to be a coach Does anyone know more?
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Post by kendall17 on Dec 27, 2015 20:26:19 GMT 1
Saw a Versa heading to LCBS to start a 757, looked a little damp but nothing too bad.
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Post by timelesstable on Dec 27, 2015 21:15:02 GMT 1
On the TV news a vehicle in Hebden Br was wash into =Calder It appeared to be a coach Does anyone know more? If it was the same footage I saw I have no idea who the coach belonged to but it appeared it was initially intending to go over the bridge but given the water level there might have been concerns over the integratory of the bridge so I thought it might just be a case of there was nowhere for the coach to go especially if the route behind it was already cut off.
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Post by basher37 on Dec 27, 2015 21:24:19 GMT 1
Bus 91 will not operate the Bramley - Headingley section so no through service The 91 was running but it must of been doing some sort of circular has I saw it going through the a Broadleas 49 was usual route through Broadleas then down Raynville Road and 85 route to town,760 was doing L&B road then wether lane and same route has 49 to town. Guess 33 turning up via Kirkstall Leisure Centre then Burley Road to town..
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Post by www.buseireann.ie on Dec 27, 2015 22:10:19 GMT 1
Has anyone noticed how poorly written the info from Metro on flood diversions is? The 72 route for example is a bit muddled up, the 36 details are attached onto the 33 info, the 757s first stop is said to be at the Abbey despite the diversion description making it out to run via Burley Road and Spen Lane (I know these roads run close to the Abbey but I'd have thought the first stop would have been much closer to town if they are correct with the route info) so I'm guessing they've not updated the diversion, this being I assume the same as the 33s, and info on Kirkstall services, the 49, services via Asda etc was not given at 9am despite these floods being in full flow! I checked back at 9.40 and it was the same despite the fact they'd stated Yorkshire Tiger weren't operating due to flooded depot. Even if they didn't know the full diversions you'd have thought they'd include a note stating Kirkstall Road was flooded as well as the area around Asda/Leeds Bridge so expect diversions to (numbered services) and we will post these diversions as soon as we know them.
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Post by kendall17 on Dec 27, 2015 22:38:43 GMT 1
Has anyone noticed how poorly written the info from Metro on flood diversions is? The 72 route for example is a bit muddled up, the 36 details are attached onto the 33 info, the 757s first stop is said to be at the Abbey despite the diversion description making it out to run via Burley Road and Spen Lane (I know these roads run close to the Abbey but I'd have thought the first stop would have been much closer to town if they are correct with the route info) so I'm guessing they've not updated the diversion, this being I assume the same as the 33s, and info on Kirkstall services, the 49, services via Asda etc was not given at 9am despite these floods being in full flow! I checked back at 9.40 and it was the same despite the fact they'd stated Yorkshire Tiger weren't operating due to flooded depot. Even if they didn't know the full diversions you'd have thought they'd include a note stating Kirkstall Road was flooded as well as the area around Asda/Leeds Bridge so expect diversions to (numbered services) and we will post these diversions as soon as we know them. Sure they'd appreciate your voluntary help tomorrow. I imagine they've had all hands on the deck and probably got staff from completely different departments, not all with the knowledge of roads/routes.
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Post by basher37 on Dec 27, 2015 22:45:12 GMT 1
Bus 91 will not operate the Bramley - Headingley section so no through service The 91 was running but it must of been doing some sort of circular has I saw it going through the a Broadleas 49 was usual route through Broadleas then down Raynville Road and 85 route to town,760 was doing L&B road then wyther lane and same route has 49 to town. Guess 33 turning up via Kirkstall Leisure Centre then Burley Road to town..
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Post by www.buseireann.ie on Dec 27, 2015 22:59:28 GMT 1
Has anyone noticed how poorly written the info from Metro on flood diversions is? The 72 route for example is a bit muddled up, the 36 details are attached onto the 33 info, the 757s first stop is said to be at the Abbey despite the diversion description making it out to run via Burley Road and Spen Lane (I know these roads run close to the Abbey but I'd have thought the first stop would have been much closer to town if they are correct with the route info) so I'm guessing they've not updated the diversion, this being I assume the same as the 33s, and info on Kirkstall services, the 49, services via Asda etc was not given at 9am despite these floods being in full flow! I checked back at 9.40 and it was the same despite the fact they'd stated Yorkshire Tiger weren't operating due to flooded depot. Even if they didn't know the full diversions you'd have thought they'd include a note stating Kirkstall Road was flooded as well as the area around Asda/Leeds Bridge so expect diversions to (numbered services) and we will post these diversions as soon as we know them. Sure they'd appreciate your voluntary help tomorrow. I imagine they've had all hands on the deck and probably got staff from completely different departments, not all with the knowledge of roads/routes. Well why the hell are they working for a public transport provider if they have no knowledge of roads/routes? This should be mandatory for all, especially bearing in mind all hands will be needed to advise the public when things go tits up.It also doesn't excuse the 36 details being tied onto details for the 33s, if this was the army they'd be carpeted for this shoddy crap info! They're supposed to be what the public bloody rely on for UP TO DATE ACCURATE info, not this half written pissing about!
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Post by kendall17 on Dec 27, 2015 23:10:50 GMT 1
Sure they'd appreciate your voluntary help tomorrow. I imagine they've had all hands on the deck and probably got staff from completely different departments, not all with the knowledge of roads/routes. Well why the hell are they working for a public transport provider if they have no knowledge of roads/routes? This should be mandatory for all, especially bearing in mind all hands will be needed to advise the public when things go tits up.It also doesn't excuse the 36 details being tied onto details for the 33s, if this was the army they'd be carpeted for this shoddy crap info! They're supposed to be what the public bloody rely on for UP TO DATE ACCURATE info, not this half written pissing about! Didn't know you have to have a knowledge of roads/routes to be admin staff. They're doing their best in a difficult situation. Their staff might be filling sandbags and clearing their houses out of floodwater. I know where I'd be and any employer would understand. People can complain that services aren't as good as they can be, best thing the public can do is get out and help people in their hours of need.
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Post by westyorkshirebus on Dec 28, 2015 0:01:10 GMT 1
Saw a Versa heading to LCBS to start a 757, looked a little damp but nothing too bad. I've seen a photo of two Versas parked out on Kirkstall Road outside YTV, so it might be the two which were running the 757 yesterday which never made it to the depot last night. Regarding the quality of info posts. It is the same when it snows. I expect you've got controllers at bus depots who weren't employed for their writing ability, but now have writing tweets or sending emails to Metro added to their job description. Hence you often get localised terms or Yorkshire slang communicated to the public, I expect Metro just take this info and copy it onto their feeds. It's unlikely that Metroline staff know all the routes off by heart and probably use journey planners and maps to help when dealing with the public. The main issue is that info is often not cleared, so stays valid all day even if roads have reopened. That's doesn't happen to just bus info though. Transdev have done very well, with copious info on Twitter across all their accounts since first thing. First and Tiger were slow off the mark with no info for hours and then only a bit of info afterwards. I do think First could do better by splitting their accounts into the 4 areas as the area is too big to be able to cope with a single account.
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Post by kendall17 on Dec 28, 2015 1:12:41 GMT 1
Saw a Versa heading to LCBS to start a 757, looked a little damp but nothing too bad. I do think First could do better by splitting their accounts into the 4 areas as the area is too big to be able to cope with a single account. And have the accounts based in the area, not Manchester?
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Post by timelesstable on Dec 28, 2015 10:34:45 GMT 1
The only service which is not operating correctly today according to the Metro Flood page at 09:00 today is 760 which is not serving on Kirkstall Road
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Post by westyorkshirebus on Dec 28, 2015 10:37:19 GMT 1
This pic from the Yorkshire Post shows the Kirkstall Road flooding including the Yorkshire Tiger depot.
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Post by Bradford Traveller on Dec 28, 2015 11:01:35 GMT 1
The only service which is not operating correctly today according to the Metro Flood page at 09:00 today is 760 which is not serving on Kirkstall Road There must be more.
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Post by basher37 on Dec 28, 2015 11:03:59 GMT 1
The only service which is not operating correctly today according to the Metro Flood page at 09:00 today is 760 which is not serving on Kirkstall Road There must be more. Kirkstall road is still shut,although the water has gone they've now got to clean up all the mess it left behind..
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Post by rossbailey on Dec 28, 2015 11:17:42 GMT 1
Flying Tiger services 737/747 are back in operation operating there normal routes and Sunday Timetable. Service 757 is still diverting via Burley Road due to Kirkstall Road Flood clouser.
First in Halifax have also tweeted that service 508 still not serving Kirkstall due to flood. Buses are diverting from Coal Hill Lane onto Intake Lane to Stanningley Fire Station then old route via Stanningley Road and Armley into Leeds.
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Post by SF07 on Dec 29, 2015 0:03:29 GMT 1
5, 33/33A, 508 and 760 back on normal routes, according to the various Twitter pages (First, Transdev, Metro)
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Post by Bradford Traveller on Dec 29, 2015 3:23:33 GMT 1
Just when you thought it'd calmed down. ..
ELLAND BRIDGE has been reported as in damger of collapse. Tonight, the bridge, which dates from 1617, was closed after the road surface distorted.
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Post by Bradford Traveller on Dec 29, 2015 3:26:47 GMT 1
There has also been a report that half the A646 near Walkley Clogs is in danger of collapsing into the canal.
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