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Post by westyorkshirebus on Nov 25, 2015 21:09:12 GMT 1
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Post by SF07 on Nov 26, 2015 20:57:05 GMT 1
No mention yet on the First Halifax, Calder Valley & Huddersfield website (as it is now called on the website).
If the strikes goes ahead, this would leave the only First services in the area:
*184 Huddersfield-Manchester via Oldham
*231/232 Huddersfield-Wakefield (some)
*501/503 Huddersfield-Halifax via Elland
*549 Huddersfield-Halifax via Brighouse
*X6 Huddersfield-Leeds via Bradford
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Post by driver6540 on Nov 26, 2015 23:53:50 GMT 1
Have heard that further talks are planned over the weekend, in a bid to avert strike action.
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Post by timelesstable on Nov 27, 2015 8:24:25 GMT 1
No mention yet on the First Halifax, Calder Valley & Huddersfield website (as it is now called on the website). If the strikes goes ahead, this would leave the only First services in the area: *184 Huddersfield-Manchester via Oldham *231/232 Huddersfield-Wakefield (some) *501/503 Huddersfield-Halifax via Elland *549 Huddersfield-Halifax via Brighouse *X6 Huddersfield-Leeds via Bradford 231/2 is hardly a First service since most journals up to 19:30ish are operated by Yorkshire Tiger. The only non Huddersfield First journey is a single 232 trip to Wakefield in the morning which is provided by Hunslet Park. |
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Post by chrisboy96 on Nov 27, 2015 11:50:16 GMT 1
More often than not Bramley run the morning 232, it returns via a school back to Depot where it sits as spare bus until the afternoon
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Post by gooderson1 on Nov 27, 2015 14:48:25 GMT 1
Are the few 231/232 journeys operated under contract to Metro. If so failing to run them would result in no being paid for those lost journeys and if the dispute went on possibly the loss of the contract completely.
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Post by timelesstable on Nov 27, 2015 17:18:14 GMT 1
Are the few 231/232 journeys operated under contract to Metro. If so failing to run them would result in no being paid for those lost journeys and if the dispute went on possibly the loss of the contract completely. They are those trips a couple in the morning then the evening services which were won from Arriva a few years ago. |
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Post by 576 Gemini 2 on Nov 27, 2015 17:27:14 GMT 1
No mention yet on the First Halifax, Calder Valley & Huddersfield website (as it is now called on the website). If the strikes goes ahead, this would leave the only First services in the area: *184 Huddersfield-Manchester via Oldham *231/232 Huddersfield-Wakefield (some) *501/503 Huddersfield-Halifax via Elland *549 Huddersfield-Halifax via Brighouse *X6 Huddersfield-Leeds via Bradford Do Bradford still do a early morning 363 to Huddersfield which returns as the first X6 to Leeds? |
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Post by Dom on Nov 27, 2015 17:32:21 GMT 1
More often than not Bramley run the morning 232, it returns via a school back to Depot where it sits as spare bus until the afternoon It's on a Hunslet Plate, 23201. Runs private to Flockton, then in service to Huddersfield, then in service to Wakefield, then private to Middleton, then does a 12 to Leeds. Then sits in the depot as engineers at Hunslet tend to put a bus on it which they might need to work on. |
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Post by westyorkshirebus on Nov 27, 2015 17:56:04 GMT 1
Info now on the First website, special hourly services running on some routes only.
Something has seriously gone wrong with the communication here as they've basically given the public half a working day's notice.
No info on Metro's website except a link, no info on GenerationM. No info about school services at all. First are counting on it being called off so aren't going to much effort to provide any info.
K-Line's Cadets and Solos will be a tad snug on Monday.
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Post by chrisboy96 on Nov 27, 2015 19:16:59 GMT 1
More often than not Bramley run the morning 232, it returns via a school back to Depot where it sits as spare bus until the afternoon It's on a Hunslet Plate, 23201. Runs private to Flockton, then in service to Huddersfield, then in service to Wakefield, then private to Middleton, then does a 12 to Leeds. Then sits in the depot as engineers at Hunslet tend to put a bus on it which they might need to work on. Interesting is that, it's also one of Bramleys short boards so anything that is not fit for a full duty gets put on. |
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Post by timelesstable on Nov 27, 2015 20:23:20 GMT 1
It's on a Hunslet Plate, 23201. Runs private to Flockton, then in service to Huddersfield, then in service to Wakefield, then private to Middleton, then does a 12 to Leeds. Then sits in the depot as engineers at Hunslet tend to put a bus on it which they might need to work on. Interesting is that, it's also one of Bramleys short boards so anything that is not fit for a full duty gets put on. Ooops must remember to avoid that particular working into Wakefield. |
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Post by adam on Nov 27, 2015 20:26:45 GMT 1
Who does the 1st Wakefield to Huddersfield?
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Post by timelesstable on Nov 27, 2015 20:48:30 GMT 1
Who does the 1st Wakefield to Huddersfield? When I last checked that one was worked by Huddersfield |
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Post by westyorkshirebus on Nov 27, 2015 20:56:49 GMT 1
0510 Huddersfield to Wakefield 0614
0615 Wakefield to Huddersfield 0720
First Huddersfield
Then goes onto 342/356/358 so probably usually a streetlite?
0545 Huddersfield to Wakefield 0650
First Huddersfield
Then dead to Golcar to do K26, so probably an ALX400
0608 Flockton to Huddersfield 0645
0650 Huddersfield to Wakefield 0755
First Leeds
Then to Middleton as mentioned above, probably a Gemini
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Post by SF07 on Nov 27, 2015 20:59:39 GMT 1
Details from First of which services will run: *181 - Hourly between 0746 and 1746 from Huddersfield and 0711, 0821 and hourly until 1821 from Wilberlee *184 - Normal service (provided by First Greater Manchester) *310 - Hourly between 0815 and 1715 from Huddersfield to Holmfirth and between 0815 and 1815 from Holmfirth to Huddersfield *314 - Hourly between 0745 and 1745 from Huddersfield to Holmfirth and between 0741 and 1741 from Holmfirth to Huddersfield *328 - Hourly between 0800 and 1800 from Huddersfield to Bradley and between 0729 and 1829 from Bradley to Huddersfield *358 - 0736, 0806 then hourly until 1806 from Huddersfield (full route) *370 - Hourly between 0810 and 1810 from Rawthorpe to Lindley (plus 0729 from Huddersfield) and between 0730 and 1730 from Lindley to Rawthorpe, then 1830 to Huddersfield *372 - Hourly between 0745 and 1745 from Almondbury to Lindley and between 0800 and 1800 from Lindley to Almondbury (plus 0716 from Huddersfield) *398/399 - Normal services *501/503 - Normal services (operated by Halifax depot) *549 - Normal services (operated by Halifax depot) *X6 - Normal services (operated by Bradford depot) *X63 - Hourly between 0730 and 1730 from Huddersfield to Bradford and between 0825 and 1725 from Bradford to Huddersfield Hourly services may run on services 302, 306, 307 and 324. No journeys on services 183, 185, 231, 232, 262, 301, 308, 316, 327, 342, 356, 360, 363, 371, 373, 537 and X11. www.firstgroup.com/halifax-calder-valley-huddersfield/news-and-service-updates/current-issues/industrial-action-ourwww.firstgroup.com/uploads/update-attach/Timetables_Mon_30_Nov.pdf |
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Post by westyorkshirebus on Nov 27, 2015 21:18:09 GMT 1
I notice no extra peak time running time has been included on the X63 timetable, so don't expect them to run on time, although most passengers won't be aware of the special timetable anyway. Due to the late notice I wouldn't be surprised if the YourNextBus screens still displayed as normal.
Those special timetables have a PVR of 10. The extra services would probably add another 3.
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Post by adam on Nov 27, 2015 22:31:31 GMT 1
0510 Huddersfield to Wakefield 0614 0615 Wakefield to Huddersfield 0720 First Huddersfield Then goes onto 342/356/358 so probably usually a streetlite? 0545 Huddersfield to Wakefield 0650 First Huddersfield Then dead to Golcar to do K26, so probably an ALX400 0608 Flockton to Huddersfield 0645 0650 Huddersfield to Wakefield 0755 First Leeds Then to Middleton as mentioned above, probably a Gemini I'd seen the First Leeds bus on M1 and assumed it was heading for Wakefield getting off at Jcn 40 didn't realise it would be on Flockton bus. I did wonder how it then got Hudds back to somewhere near Leeds. |
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Post by timelesstable on Nov 28, 2015 18:18:39 GMT 1
First bus strike will go ahead on Monday: Full list of service changes and cancellations here www.examiner.co.uk/news/west-yorkshire-news/first-bus-strike-go-ahead-10514506Bus drivers are to strike in Huddersfield on Monday. The 170 drivers working for First will walk out for 24 hours , bringing many services to a standstill. Five hours of talks on Thursday failed to bring a settlement between the company and the Unite union. And drivers have warned more action will follow. The row centres on new contracts proposed for drivers. It covers pay and conditions but First are wanting to have different conditions for people who may join the company in the future. That has been rejected by the union |
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Post by timelesstable on Nov 29, 2015 10:45:41 GMT 1
Must be going ahead now it's made onto the BBC news site............. www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-leeds-34953182Many services have been cancelled but bus operator First said it hoped to run a reduced service on some routes. The company said other First depots were not taking part in strike action and those services would run as normal. Given the final line this must be very much an issue at Huddersfield |
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Post by gooderson1 on Nov 29, 2015 11:55:06 GMT 1
I was told on Saturday afternoon details of a letter sent by mangements to all drivers. As it was read to me it sounded to me to be threatening and intimidating. It did not surprise me at all that the driver I was speaking to stated that another strike(3 days) in the week before Christmas is being planned.
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Post by SF07 on Nov 29, 2015 16:41:57 GMT 1
First Huddersfield website says that managers will be drivers on some of the services, while they are 'grateful for support from their colleagues at our sister company First Manchester', which might suggest some drivers from across the Pennines are being drafted in to help out. Meanwhile, South Pennine Community Transport have said they'll be running a free 308 service tomorrow between Huddersfield Peel Street and Holmfirth, running hourly between 0945 and 1245 from Holmfirth and between 1015 and 1315 from Huddersfield. |
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Post by Matty on Nov 29, 2015 21:45:38 GMT 1
There is about 10 BMC's parked in Huddersfield bus station ready to run school services tomorrow, wouldn't surprise me if these appear in service at some point tomorrow.
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Post by westyorkshirebus on Nov 29, 2015 21:55:31 GMT 1
It'll be to avoid crossing the picket line like when Bradford were on strike and they ran from Cherry Row.
Are there any double decks there as well as about 10 double deck school services are also run by 'schools unit' drivers?
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Post by clifton on Nov 29, 2015 21:57:33 GMT 1
There is about 10 BMC's parked in Huddersfield bus station ready to run school services tomorrow, wouldn't surprise me if these appear in service at some point tomorrow. Saw them leaving the depot & heading up Leeds Rd about 4pm. I assumed they were being moved so the drivers didn't have to cross the picket line tomorrow, like they did with the Bradford ones when they were on strike. |
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