Proper locomotives? Well they were Farnley Junction's 'Jubilees' weren't they? Not for nothing do I sign myself RESOLUTION I notice someone with a conscience has given this name to one of the 68s but it won't be a patch on the real thing.
Im fair looking forward to these entering service, It'll be refreshing to ride a "proper" loco hauled train again after all these years of bland autonomous multiple units since privatisation. Im old enough to remember being on a Class 47/DVT push-pull service between Glasgow Queen St and Edinburgh Waverley when i was in my youth and i think its absolutely marvelous TPE is reintroducing this concept. Of course the 68 sounds decidedly muted compared to the old class 47's, but given todays enviromental concerns the wonderful noise and clag of the old type loco's would be deemed unacceptable for us these days, mores the pity!.
The 47/7s used DBSO’s rather than DVT’s - they carried passengers like the DT’s on the 68 will do.
Apparently the soundproofing is so good on the Mk 5s, that you will hardly hear the 68s even on full power.
Thanks for your response AW, iv'e now done my research and educated myself as to the difference between the old DBSO's and new DVT's. Whilst going back in time, I'd actually forgotten the original push-pull services on the Edinburgh-Glasgow route were Class 27's top & tailing a rake of steam heated carriages. These were introduced in 1971 and superseded by the 47's with ETH in 1979/80. Back on thread with TPE matters and i think its a bit of a shame people on platforms will hear more of the 68 sound than people on the train!
Post by Bradford Traveller on Jun 18, 2019 11:23:16 GMT 1
DECEMBER 2019
Planned services according to the timetable bid
Edinburgh Waverley -> Newcastle -> Liverpool Lime Street to call at Morpeth vv ¹ Redcar -> Middlesbrough -> Manchester Airport vv ²
Other routes largely unaltered ³
Notes ¹ hourly service, extension of current Newcastle -> Liverpool service. ² replacing/extension of current Middlesbrough -> Manchester Airport service ³ stopping services to split at Huddersfield as at present
Stoppers are already split at Huddersfield. TPE were hiring a 170 from Northern to work 1 diagram on the Leeds to Huddersfield section.
They are also (according to Today's Railways magazine) planning a half hourly Manchester - Huddersfield service in the peaks (presumably meaning the stopper, as they already run way more than half hourly at present) and are removing some stops from the Hull - Piccadilly service off peak, which (hopefully for the intermediate stations) means the stopper will call at all stops, rather than calling everywhere but, i think, Greenfield, which is served by the Hull train and thereby restoring the final missing link from the ridiculous skip-stop pattern they introduced when first taking the stoppers on. Also, given Northern are to introduce a Halifax to Hull, may mean places like Brough and Howden get served by that and lose calls by TPE?
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They are also (according to Today's Railways magazine) planning a half hourly Manchester - Huddersfield service in the peaks (presumably meaning the stopper, as they already run way more than half hourly at present) and are removing some stops from the Hull - Piccadilly service off peak, which (hopefully for the intermediate stations) means the stopper will call at all stops, rather than calling everywhere but, i think, Greenfield, which is served by the Hull train and thereby restoring the final missing link from the ridiculous skip-stop pattern they introduced when first taking the stoppers on. Also, given Northern are to introduce a Halifax to Hull, may mean places like Brough and Howden get served by that and lose calls by TPE?
It will be good if the Hull services can lose some of the intermediate stops on the central section (currently Dewsbury, Huddersfield, Mossley and Stalybridge on most services). The stopping services call at all stations except Mossley, which is ridiculous, as is the fact that they are run by TransPennine Express. At the moment, Howden doesn't get a regular service from TPX, it has Hull Trains and Northern (Hull to York). Brough is quite a key station for TPX because it serves as the railhead for a wide area up to Beverley, as it's easy to drive to and park at, and for many people it's a better option than getting into the centre of Hull.
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December 16th Dec will see a new station on the TPE network albeit an extremely limited service Wakefield Kirkgate 0524 Wakefield K to Manchester Picc calling at all stations to Stalybridge then Man Pic And 2300 Manchester Piccadilly to Wakefield K calling all stations from Stalybridge
December 16th Dec will see a new station on the TPE network albeit an extremely limited service Wakefield Kirkgate 0524 Wakefield K to Manchester Picc calling at all stations to Stalybridge then Man Pic And 2300 Manchester Piccadilly to Wakefield K calling all stations from Stalybridge
Looks like quite a nice idea - taking the ECS moves to and from the first local services between Huddersfield and Manchester Piccadilly and livening them up from/to Wakefield Kirkgate. Odd that the current working timetable has the last train from Manchester waiting an hour in Huddersfield before returning to the depot - so that unit will now get more sleep.
A nice step to getting some later services in West Yorkshire (although most of the latest at the moment pass through Huddersfield). You will now be able to get to Wakefield from Huddersfield later than you can get from Leeds.
Post by MetrolineGA1511 on Nov 30, 2019 7:54:00 GMT 1
There was a report on a North West new bulletin about one of tbe new trains at Liverpool Lime Street. I understand they are on limited services to Newcastle and Scarborough so far.
December 16th Dec will see a new station on the TPE network albeit an extremely limited service Wakefield Kirkgate 0524 Wakefield K to Manchester Picc calling at all stations to Stalybridge then Man Pic And 2300 Manchester Piccadilly to Wakefield K calling all stations from Stalybridge
These were a planning error in the Scehdules and were never planned to run. Schedules have now been updated to show the ECS To/From Crofton running to Huddersfield to start the stoppers there.
It appears however this error has made it into Northerns published timetables
Post by Bradford Traveller on Dec 13, 2019 14:19:48 GMT 1
Note that TPE's new hourly Liverpool Lime Street -> Newcastle->Morpeth->Edinburgh Waverley route will have a much-reduced timetable due to delay in driver training of their new Nova trains, many of these services will be removed from the new timetable for three weeks 15 December 2019 until 5 January 2020.
In the two hours 21:30 to 23:30 this evening, only five of the 16 timetabled journeys in Dewsbury will run (and some of those are late) and most Leeds-Huddersfield locals were cancelled.
That’s one station only - I dare not look at Leeds.
In the two hours 21:30 to 23:30 this evening, only five of the 16 timetabled journeys in Dewsbury will run (and some of those are late) and most Leeds-Huddersfield locals were cancelled.
That’s one station only - I dare not look at Leeds.
Leeds from 2200 - 0000 - TPE - 5 running and 8 cancelled.
In the two hours 21:30 to 23:30 this evening, only five of the 16 timetabled journeys in Dewsbury will run (and some of those are late) and most Leeds-Huddersfield locals were cancelled.
That’s one station only - I dare not look at Leeds.
Looking at Selby for today, and it's not a pretty picture.
TransPennine 38 trains, of which: - 5 were cancelled - 11 were more than 5 minutes late (one at +37, one at +62 which was terminated short at HUD)
Northern 85 trains, of which: - 8 were cancelled - 19 were more than 5 minutes late (one at +30)
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Post by stevieinselby on Dec 23, 2019 15:21:22 GMT 1
I've had a look a RTT for Friday. There were supposed to be 155 TransPennine services in/out of York – 74 of them were cancelled. It's good to see that they've learned the lessons from last year's botched timetable change.
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