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Post by northrob on Mar 19, 2013 19:27:22 GMT 1
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Post by SF07 on Mar 20, 2013 16:34:51 GMT 1
PB1086413/13 - TATES TRAVEL LTD T/A TATES TRAVEL GROUP, WHALEY ROAD, BARNSLEY, S75 1HT
Cancellation Accepted: Operating between Huddersfield bus station and Cannon Hall given service number 956 effective from 26-May-2013.
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Post by sharksmith on Mar 21, 2013 20:39:44 GMT 1
PB1011774/241 - GELDARDS COACHES LTD, UNIT 16C, ASHFIELD WAY, WHITEHALL INDUSTRIAL ESTATE,, WHITEHALL ROAD, LEEDS, LS12 5JB
Registration Accepted
Starting Point: PUDSEY CHAPLETOWN
Finish Point: LEEDS VICAR LANE
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Service Number: X11
Service Type: Limited Stop
Effective Date: 03-MAY-2013
Other Details: Monday to Saturday
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Post by www.buseireann.ie on Mar 22, 2013 18:08:18 GMT 1
PB1011774/241 - GELDARDS COACHES LTD, UNIT 16C, ASHFIELD WAY, WHITEHALL INDUSTRIAL ESTATE,, WHITEHALL ROAD, LEEDS, LS12 5JB Registration Accepted Starting Point: PUDSEY CHAPLETOWN Finish Point: LEEDS VICAR LANE Via: Service Number: X11 Service Type: Limited Stop Effective Date: 03-MAY-2013 Other Details: Monday to Saturday You've got to be bloody joking! You can tell Geldards do their research cos the current X14/5 really pulls in the punters doesn't it! Unless this service is cheaply madly in your face dammit publicised (i.e cheaply done leaflets posted through every letter box in Pudsey saying this express service will save you a packet and is guaranteed to be reliable and on time every time!) and the service runs non stop from Pudsey Bus Station to Leeds then I can't see it working, just like the 710 did, just like the Aberford services did and all the other crap they've ran/currently run! Geldards like wasting money, they might be better off investing it on lowering fares for 6 months and publicising the lower fares to tempt car drivers onto their fresh air routes! |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 22, 2013 18:39:57 GMT 1
PB1011774/241 - GELDARDS COACHES LTD, UNIT 16C, ASHFIELD WAY, WHITEHALL INDUSTRIAL ESTATE,, WHITEHALL ROAD, LEEDS, LS12 5JB Registration Accepted Starting Point: PUDSEY CHAPLETOWN Finish Point: LEEDS VICAR LANE Via: Service Number: X11 Service Type: Limited Stop Effective Date: 03-MAY-2013 Other Details: Monday to Saturday You've got to be bloody joking! You can tell Geldards do their research cos the current X14/5 really pulls in the punters doesn't it! Unless this service is cheaply madly in your face dammit publicised (i.e cheaply done leaflets posted through every letter box in Pudsey saying this express service will save you a packet and is guaranteed to be reliable and on time every time!) and the service runs non stop from Pudsey Bus Station to Leeds then I can't see it working, just like the 710 did, just like the Aberford services did and all the other crap they've ran/currently run! Geldards like wasting money, they might be better off investing it on lowering fares for 6 months and publicising the lower fares to tempt car drivers onto their fresh air routes! To be fair,710 Did pick up in loadings just before they axed it - if they are doing X11 would of been good to operate it all the way to Bradford like first once did,X14/5 Are odd routes to compete against,some trips could hardly fill a solo,others fill up a Eclipse |
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Post by Craig on Mar 22, 2013 19:45:39 GMT 1
The X14/X15 actually can be quite busy at certain times. I think it was a good service introduction by First. However, I'm not disagreeing about the caution expressed in Geldards introducing yet another new service.
Shall we just save time and register the cancellation now, or wait the usual few weeks first?
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Post by SF07 on Mar 27, 2013 19:16:20 GMT 1
951 re-registered for 2013:
PB1078487/53 - HUDDERSFIELD BUS COMPANY LTD T/A THE HUDDERSFIELD BUS COMPANY, 102 CANNOCK STREET, LEICESTER, LE4 9HR
Registration Accepted
Starting Point: HUDDERSFIELD BUS STATION
Finish Point: GLOSSOP HENRY STREET
Via: HOLMFIRTH
Service Number: 951
Service Type: Normal Stopping/Hail & Ride
Effective Date: 25-MAY-2013
Other Details: Saturday,Sundays & Bank Holidays (May to August 2013 only) 2 hourly Service will operate from 25th May 2013 to 26th August 2013 inclusive only
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Post by Deleted on Mar 27, 2013 20:40:37 GMT 1
951 re-registered for 2013: PB1078487/53 - HUDDERSFIELD BUS COMPANY LTD T/A THE HUDDERSFIELD BUS COMPANY, 102 CANNOCK STREET, LEICESTER, LE4 9HR Registration Accepted Starting Point: HUDDERSFIELD BUS STATION Finish Point: GLOSSOP HENRY STREET Via: HOLMFIRTH Service Number: 951 Service Type: Normal Stopping/Hail & Ride Effective Date: 25-MAY-2013 Other Details: Saturday,Sundays & Bank Holidays (May to August 2013 only) 2 hourly Service will operate from 25th May 2013 to 26th August 2013 inclusive only I thought Metro had cut the funding? Unless their running it commercially now? |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 27, 2013 22:13:10 GMT 1
951 re-registered for 2013: PB1078487/53 - HUDDERSFIELD BUS COMPANY LTD T/A THE HUDDERSFIELD BUS COMPANY, 102 CANNOCK STREET, LEICESTER, LE4 9HR Registration Accepted Starting Point: HUDDERSFIELD BUS STATION Finish Point: GLOSSOP HENRY STREET Via: HOLMFIRTH Service Number: 951 Service Type: Normal Stopping/Hail & Ride Effective Date: 25-MAY-2013 Other Details: Saturday,Sundays & Bank Holidays (May to August 2013 only) 2 hourly Service will operate from 25th May 2013 to 26th August 2013 inclusive only I thought Metro had cut the funding? Unless their running it commercially now? when i used it i thought it would do well commercially - seems to carry good loadings plus if it gets to holmfirth bus stn before firstbus it get can a few passengers there on its return to Huddersfield |
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Post by dwarfer1979 on Mar 28, 2013 11:10:42 GMT 1
951 re-registered for 2013: PB1078487/53 - HUDDERSFIELD BUS COMPANY LTD T/A THE HUDDERSFIELD BUS COMPANY, 102 CANNOCK STREET, LEICESTER, LE4 9HR Registration Accepted Starting Point: HUDDERSFIELD BUS STATION Finish Point: GLOSSOP HENRY STREET Via: HOLMFIRTH Service Number: 951 Service Type: Normal Stopping/Hail & Ride Effective Date: 25-MAY-2013 Other Details: Saturday,Sundays & Bank Holidays (May to August 2013 only) 2 hourly Service will operate from 25th May 2013 to 26th August 2013 inclusive only I thought Metro had cut the funding? Unless their running it commercially now? So did we but it keeps coming back from the dead every year at the last minute. Still funded by the council. It does load quite well on the good days (though I assume it is badly affected if we have a poor summer) but it is difficult to operate so it would be unlikely to be a truly commercial proposition. |
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Post by www.buseireann.ie on Mar 28, 2013 12:01:23 GMT 1
A lot of people from over the Pennines use it as an alternative to the 184 (i.e those who would go to Huddersfield via Ashton and Uppermill from areas around Glossop), heard many from over there complain when it doesn't turn up!
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Post by northrob on Apr 22, 2013 22:33:34 GMT 1
The Summer Timetable for Yorkshire Coastliner starts on May 26, and there may be a few more alterations than normal. Not everyone is happy: www.yorkpress.co.uk/news/10370415.Anger_over_changes_to_village_bus_service/ELDERLY and disabled people will be hit by planned changes to a bus service between York and the east coast, one passenger has claimed. Eric Barlow, 56, of Lowfields in Staxton, uses the 843 Coastliner bus on Monday to Friday from his village to Scarborough. He said plans to stop the service picking up and dropping off in Staxton will make life extremely difficult for him and anyone visiting the village. He is also angry that for the first time bus pass holders will be charged £3 during the day if they board the service anywhere west of Rillington, including in York. Mr Barlow, who is disabled, said: “I object to these changes and intend to start an awareness campaign to all along this route who are ignorant at present of the “summer misery” plans Coastliner has deemed acceptable for specific tax paying residents. “I understand a similar plan, with different rules, is to be imposed on the 840 Whitby route. “I feel I am being denied access to this previously unrestricted route. I cannot buy a car and I cannot pay £15 for a taxi.” Coastliner marketing director Nigel Eggleton said there were plans to change the 843 service between Rillington and Scarborough, and Thornton-le-Dale and Whitby, starting on May 26. He said changes to the way North Yorkshire County Council (NYCC) funded the company have meant a cut to Coastliner of about 40 per cent. Mr Eggleton said: “We are aware that many senior citizens who are bus pass holders would be prepared to pay a fare, but legally we are prohibited from charging them on a local bus service, but we can charge on an express service that doesn’t stop for a distance of 15 miles.” “That is why we are looking at converting this part of the Coastliner route into an express service to try and compensate for the cuts in local authority funding.” Mr Eggleton said the plan was to charge a fare for the new route for three hours between 10am and 1pm every day and it would affect a handful of people who used the route currently. Mr Barlow claimed it would affect anyone boarding the bus in York heading to the coast as well. Mr Eggleton said: “It is possible the decision will be reversed if we have successful negotiations with NYCC.” |
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Post by Burnside on Apr 23, 2013 12:59:08 GMT 1
It was only a matter of time before something like this happened.
Whatever the rights and wrongs of the free travel scheme, it is leaving bus companies out of pocket and causes those passengers that actually pay for their journey frustrated if they can't get a seat.
Personally, i don't think Coastliner (with exception of any individual sections where it is the only bus along that bit of route) shouldbe classed as a local service.
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Post by Jack on Apr 23, 2013 13:20:22 GMT 1
Can Coastliner still claim BSOG for these journeys then if they are in effect running a coach service?
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Post by Burnside on Apr 23, 2013 17:16:40 GMT 1
Presumably, they will have looked at all the options and worked out which would be the better one.
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Post by westyorkshirebus on Apr 23, 2013 17:30:10 GMT 1
Indeed, the point of free travel was so pensioners could get out and about around their local community, it wasn't so they could travel from Leeds to Scarborough for free, forcing paying passengers to stand or to not be able to board in the first place.
The scheme needs reviewing but no government will do, as the grey vote is too important.
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Post by Arriva Wakefield on Apr 23, 2013 19:16:16 GMT 1
Can Coastliner still claim BSOG for these journeys then if they are in effect running a coach service? Not sure if they can for the whole service, but for the 2 end sections than I can't see why not. The "charges" are only going to apply for 3 hours they say, but is that 10am-1pm from ANY stop, or only if travelling across the 15 mile section. |
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Post by northerner on Apr 23, 2013 20:50:46 GMT 1
Think this is the only time I've agreed with a change Transdev have made. Good on them, hopefully they will become a trendsetter across the industry
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Post by mjn on Apr 24, 2013 4:12:35 GMT 1
Personally, i don't think Coastliner (with exception of any individual sections where it is the only bus along that bit of route) shouldbe classed as a local service. That's pretty much all of it. |
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Post by dwarfer1979 on Apr 24, 2013 8:14:09 GMT 1
Can Coastliner still claim BSOG for these journeys then if they are in effect running a coach service? I don't think so, bus stops have to be less than 15 miles apart in a straight line for an operator to be able to register a service, making it eligible for BSOG & concessionary fares. |
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Post by deerfold on Apr 24, 2013 9:31:50 GMT 1
Can Coastliner still claim BSOG for these journeys then if they are in effect running a coach service? I don't think so, bus stops have to be less than 15 miles apart in a straight line for an operator to be able to register a service, making it eligible for BSOG & concessionary fares. That doesn't stop parts of routes being registered - National Express have quite a few portions of route registered that they claim BSOG for. |
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Post by dwarfer1979 on Apr 25, 2013 8:10:19 GMT 1
I don't think so, bus stops have to be less than 15 miles apart in a straight line for an operator to be able to register a service, making it eligible for BSOG & concessionary fares. That doesn't stop parts of routes being registered - National Express have quite a few portions of route registered that they claim BSOG for. The sections of route National Express have registered are where there are stops less than 15 miles apart, that is why it is only sections of certain routes and not whole (or all) routes and why a route may be registered with multiple sections all of which are unconnected with the others as there are gaps of more than 15 miles between the registered sections. I have actually had this issue at a previous employer where they had to join the motorway on an express route at a later junction than the most logical one (driving past that junction to get to the next one) to ensure the section of non-stop running down the motorway was under 15 miles to ensure BSOG could be claimed. |
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Post by deerfold on Apr 29, 2013 12:25:44 GMT 1
Isn't that pretty much what I said?
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Post by SF07 on May 14, 2013 12:20:18 GMT 1
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Post by stevieinselby on May 14, 2013 18:57:09 GMT 1
And today Coastliner have posted the new timetable for the Unibus 44, which started on Monday.
What a shame I wrote my letter of complaint citing their appalling lack of publicity over service changes yesterday, that would have been another good one to include.
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