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Post by 112jct41 on Apr 5, 2016 20:32:45 GMT 1
Just seen on AY's Facebook page, one of Castlefords Pulsars is receiving a special livery promoting the new '411' service. It is the winning design in a children's art competition ran jointly by AY and a primary school in Pontefract. Launch is this Thursday afternoon (7th)around 3pm in Chequerfield and will then work a scheduled '411' service to Castleford. the pulsar in questiom is 1451. Its on the pic AY tweeted earlier.
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Post by timelesstable on Apr 5, 2016 21:51:52 GMT 1
Just seen on AY's Facebook page, one of Castlefords Pulsars is receiving a special livery promoting the new '411' service. It is the winning design in a children's art competition ran jointly by AY and a primary school in Pontefract. Launch is this Thursday afternoon (7th)around 3pm in Chequerfield and will then work a scheduled '411' service to Castleford. the pulsar in questiom is 1451. Its on the pic AY tweeted earlier. Seems a strange choice when there are sufficient 61 plate Pulsars to cover the 410/411 workings. Also begs the question of why move the recent two from Dewsbury (1480/1481)
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Post by 112jct41 on Apr 5, 2016 22:59:01 GMT 1
the pulsar in questiom is 1451. Its on the pic AY tweeted earlier. Seems a strange choice when there are sufficient 61 plate Pulsars to cover the 410/411 workings. Also begs the question of why move the recent two from Dewsbury (1480/1481) Dont know why they didnt go for a 62 plate pulsar, i was told by a family friend who works at dewsbury that 1479-81 moving was done to the depot managers all though all drivers at dewsbury say its ridiculous having so many deckers there as they cant run on 278 or 128 and thats why the lease on 57 & 58 was extended as this were due to go back to Arriva B&C back in November 2015. and they went DDA. He also said the mini e200 transfer is to try smaller buses for on the new interworking boards of 253/278/282 since the timings now slot in together since metro reduced funding to the 282 on a week day. Only thing that would have made sense would have been send 1450-53 to dewsbury and 1479-1483 or 1492-95 to castleford as 1451 was a good bus when it was at dewsbury and did better on clarke green street than the 62 plate pulsars and e200s (the alx200 & 300s were faster than these and 57 & 58 still are).
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Post by kaytown on Apr 5, 2016 23:22:45 GMT 1
Seems a strange choice when there are sufficient 61 plate Pulsars to cover the 410/411 workings. Also begs the question of why move the recent two from Dewsbury (1480/1481) Dont know why they didnt go for a 62 plate pulsar, i was told by a family friend who works at dewsbury that 1479-81 moving was done to the depot managers all though all drivers at dewsbury say its ridiculous having so many deckers there as they cant run on 278 or 128 and thats why the lease on 57 & 58 was extended as this were due to go back to Arriva B&C back in November 2015. and they went DDA. He also said the mini e200 transfer is to try smaller buses for on the new interworking boards of 253/278/282 since the timings now slot in together since metro reduced funding to the 282 on a week day. Only thing that would have made sense would have been send 1450-53 to dewsbury and 1479-1483 or 1492-95 to castleford as 1451 was a good bus when it was at dewsbury and did better on clarke green street than the 62 plate pulsars and e200s (the alx200 & 300s were faster than these and 57 & 58 still are).
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Post by Arriva Wakefield on Apr 6, 2016 8:58:26 GMT 1
the pulsar in questiom is 1451. Its on the pic AY tweeted earlier. Seems a strange choice when there are sufficient 61 plate Pulsars to cover the 410/411 workings. Also begs the question of why move the recent two from Dewsbury (1480/1481) Think the 411 needs more than 2 buses, and anyhow both of them are based at Heckmondwike
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Post by titan1641 on Apr 6, 2016 14:02:51 GMT 1
AY just tweeted a pic of what looks like 1479 (YJ62JUC) being prepped ready for the 411 child design livery launch tomorrow.
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Post by timelesstable on Apr 6, 2016 14:59:02 GMT 1
Seems a strange choice when there are sufficient 61 plate Pulsars to cover the 410/411 workings. Also begs the question of why move the recent two from Dewsbury (1480/1481) Think the 411 needs more than 2 buses, and anyhow both of them are based at Heckmondwike Oooops, I was a year out should be 62 plate Pulsars of which there are plenty at Castleford
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Post by 112jct41 on Apr 6, 2016 17:06:07 GMT 1
AY just tweeted a pic of what looks like 1479 (YJ62JUC) being prepped ready for the 411 child design livery launch tomorrow. Looks like a ploy as yesterday it was 1451.
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Post by westyorkshirebus on Apr 6, 2016 17:14:51 GMT 1
i was told by a family friend who works at dewsbury that 1479-81 moving was done to the depot managers all though all drivers at dewsbury say its ridiculous having so many deckers there as they cant run on 278 or 128 . I don't understand what you are getting at here, Dewsbury's double decks are for their MAX routes.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 6, 2016 18:42:58 GMT 1
If anything Dewsbury need more deckers, 2 Branded MAX Spares just isn't enough for the 202/3 and 126/7 combined.
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Post by 112jct41 on Apr 6, 2016 19:09:16 GMT 1
i was told by a family friend who works at dewsbury that 1479-81 moving was done to the depot managers all though all drivers at dewsbury say its ridiculous having so many deckers there as they cant run on 278 or 128 . I don't understand what you are getting at here, Dewsbury's double decks are for their MAX routes. the numbers there outweigh the numbers needed at times because when they go on other runs, the 212 included for the decker board on a weeknight, they never have more than a dozen passengers on 2 dozen at most. The deckers cant go on 278 unless every experienced driver is on the duties it requires and thats why there was also 3 or 4 on 281/282/283 before the changes and on 281/283 since. 1510 was even on 282/283 last Sunday when these barely get half full. Wheres the logic logic there when surely 1005-1008 can go on 282/283 on a sunday??? Can anyone on here 100% admit they've seen a full decker on any other run except 126/127 and 202/203???
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Post by Deleted on Apr 6, 2016 20:29:57 GMT 1
the numbers there outweigh the numbers needed at times because when they go on other runs, the 212 included for the decker board on a weeknight, they never have more than a dozen passengers on 2 dozen at most. I believe the 212 interworks with the 126/7 on an evening hence why the 1800 from Dewsbury is a MAX decker. Its most likely something to do with Driver Hours I don't think they allocate specific routes and buses to 'more experienced drivers'. There is nothing specifically limiting the 278 route anyway for using deckers, They don't use deckers as it would not be needed for the amount of passengers it sees. Its probably the case that the Geminis are one of the last ones to come into the depot on a night and first out in the morning on Monday - Saturday. Hence why they use them on a Sunday.
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Post by wibble on Apr 7, 2016 1:06:12 GMT 1
I don't understand what you are getting at here, Dewsbury's double decks are for their MAX routes. the numbers there outweigh the numbers needed at times because when they go on other runs, the 212 included for the decker board on a weeknight, they never have more than a dozen passengers on 2 dozen at most. The deckers cant go on 278 unless every experienced driver is on the duties it requires and thats why there was also 3 or 4 on 281/282/283 before the changes and on 281/283 since. 1510 was even on 282/283 last Sunday when these barely get half full. Wheres the logic logic there when surely 1005-1008 can go on 282/283 on a sunday??? Can anyone on here 100% admit they've seen a full decker on any other run except 126/127 and 202/203??? 1005 - 1008 are hugely unpopular with a lot of drivers at Dewsbury at the moment due to the gearbox and halt brake, so I expect the output on a Sunday saves earache by not allocating them.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 7, 2016 1:45:44 GMT 1
I don't think they allocate specific routes and buses to 'more experienced drivers'. There is nothing specifically limiting the 278 route anyway for using deckers, They don't use deckers as it would not be needed for the amount of passengers it sees. Can deckers fit under the bridge at Brighouse?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 7, 2016 1:55:45 GMT 1
I don't think they allocate specific routes and buses to 'more experienced drivers'. There is nothing specifically limiting the 278 route anyway for using deckers, They don't use deckers as it would not be needed for the amount of passengers it sees. Can deckers fit under the bridge at Brighouse? Believe the Bridge is 14'6" if you go through the middle. Geminis are 13'11" and I'd assume the Enviro 400s are a similar height.
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Post by timelesstable on Apr 7, 2016 6:25:47 GMT 1
Can deckers fit under the bridge at Brighouse? Believe the Bridge is 14'6" if you go through the middle. Geminis are 13'11" and I'd assume the Enviro 400s are a similar height. They should go through OK but the highest point is angled so you start at the wrong side of the road and move towards the correct side of the road. This applies irrespective of the direction of travel. I've seen sunken gangway vintage buses go under on the Brighouse 1940's week-end.
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Post by mutty on Apr 7, 2016 7:18:26 GMT 1
If anything Dewsbury need more deckers, 2 Branded MAX Spares just isn't enough for the 202/3 and 126/7 combined. there's 3 " max spares" one of the gemini's that's just moved from Wakefield is branded as a spare bus
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Post by 112jct41 on Apr 7, 2016 7:27:35 GMT 1
If anything Dewsbury need more deckers, 2 Branded MAX Spares just isn't enough for the 202/3 and 126/7 combined. there's 3 " max spares" one of the gemini's that's just moved from Wakefield is branded as a spare bus 1516-18 are all branded for 126/127 just like 1508-15 are.
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Post by whereami on Apr 7, 2016 15:34:51 GMT 1
1479 IS the bus that is wearing the design that has won the Children's 411 designs
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Post by westyorkshirebus on Apr 7, 2016 17:33:07 GMT 1
Can deckers fit under the bridge at Brighouse? Believe the Bridge is 14'6" if you go through the middle. Geminis are 13'11" and I'd assume the Enviro 400s are a similar height. You have to drive on the wrong side of the road into a blind bend, in an area with lots of tight corners and junctions and busy traffic, the traffic wouldn't allow the driver to position correctly, hence why Arriva and First both treat the bridge as low height single deck only.
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Post by mutty on Apr 7, 2016 18:13:58 GMT 1
there's 3 " max spares" one of the gemini's that's just moved from Wakefield is branded as a spare bus 1516-18 are all branded for 126/127 just like 1508-15 are. My fleet list shows 1518 as unbranded
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Post by timelesstable on Apr 7, 2016 18:28:27 GMT 1
1516-18 are all branded for 126/127 just like 1508-15 are. My fleet list shows 1518 as unbranded All three of those originally working out of Belle Isle 1516-1518 were 126/7 branded and have been since June/July 2015 when they were Maxed
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Post by Deleted on Apr 7, 2016 18:56:23 GMT 1
Believe the Bridge is 14'6" if you go through the middle. Geminis are 13'11" and I'd assume the Enviro 400s are a similar height. You have to drive on the wrong side of the road into a blind bend, in an area with lots of tight corners and junctions and busy traffic, the traffic wouldn't allow the driver to position correctly, hence why Arriva and First both treat the bridge as low height single deck only. That explains it then. Thanks for the clarification!
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Post by driver6540 on Apr 8, 2016 18:44:13 GMT 1
You have to drive on the wrong side of the road into a blind bend, in an area with lots of tight corners and junctions and busy traffic, the traffic wouldn't allow the driver to position correctly, hence why Arriva and First both treat the bridge as low height single deck only. That explains it then. Thanks for the clarification! I've driven HGV's with high sided containers under that bridge, yes it is very tricky. If ever a bridge cried out for vehicle height activated traffic lights, then it's this one. I freely admit, that if i can avoid this bridge, i will.
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Post by X212HHE on May 23, 2016 18:55:05 GMT 1
This seems a strange one but Arriva Yorkshire Enviro 1066 has been repainted and refurbished into MAX not sure what route it will be for
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